Official Free Agency/Offseason/Non-Draft Thread

[texaspackerbacker]

Could they reallty afford Fuller? I doubt it, despite The Drunken Sailor's (AKA Tex) assertions that they can buy anyone they want.

Man, I want to go drinking with Tex.

Fritz, do you disagree that they are about even with the cap now? Do you disagree that they can and should extend and restructure Rodgers and Adams and gain in the $25-30 million range against the cap? Do you disagree that a 5 year $50 contract hits the cap to the tune of about $5-6 million with a decent bonus prorated? (not that Fuller would get near that - hell, they could get Fuller X 2, a Kyle and a Will for that kind of money). If so, they can damn well buy anybody worth buying that they need.

Actually, I don't drink anything stronger than KoolAid hahahaha.

[sharpe1027]

Fritz, do you disagree that they are about even with the cap now? Do you disagree that they can and should extend and restructure Rodgers and Adams and gain in the $25-30 million range against the cap? Do you disagree that a 5 year $50 contract hits the cap to the tune of about $5-6 million with a decent bonus prorated? (not that Fuller would get near that - hell, they could get Fuller X 2, a Kyle and a Will for that kind of money). If so, they can damn well buy anybody worth buying that they need.

Actually, I don't drink anything stronger than KoolAid hahahaha.

They *could* cut their entire team and sign a shit ton of free agents. They won't. Your point is valid that they have options, but you keep taking it to such extremes/hyporbole

[texaspackerbacker]

What is extreme about restructuring and extending Rodgers and Adams and using the cap money to sign a quality Corner and maybe a quality O or D Lineman too? My point is, it easily could be done and IMO, probably will be done in the next couple of weeks if Gutekunst is good at his job.

[sharpe1027]

What is extreme about restructuring and extending Rodgers and Adams and using the cap money to sign a quality Corner and maybe a quality O or D Lineman too? My point is, it easily could be done and IMO, probably will be done in the next couple of weeks if Gutekunst is good at his job.

Nothing. What is reasonable about saying they can sign anyone they want? It's almost as if you want us to believe there are no other teams and an infinite ability to manufacture cap space.

[bobblehead]

Could they reallty afford Fuller? I doubt it, despite The Drunken Sailor's (AKA Tex) assertions that they can buy anyone they want.

Man, I want to go drinking with Tex.

I suspect they could make it work if it was a priority. It would indeed lock us into Rodgers for the remainder of his contract. It would also be bonus heavy and backloaded to lower impact on the 2021 cap.

[Bretsky]

What is extreme about restructuring and extending Rodgers and Adams and using the cap money to sign a quality Corner and maybe a quality O or D Lineman too? My point is, it easily could be done and IMO, probably will be done in the next couple of weeks if Gutekunst is good at his job.

I don't think Gute wants to extend Rodgers

[Joemailman]

I don't think Gute wants to extend Rodgers

I don't either. The idea of offering an extension to a 37 year old guy with 3 years left on his contract strikes me as kind of strange.

[Bretsky]

I don't either. The idea of offering an extension to a 37 year old guy with 3 years left on his contract strikes me as kind of strange.

Pretty clear Rodgers wants a longer committment
Pretty sure Goootie doesn't want that and if he gives in to what AROD wants it hurts his end plan in the Love Machine

I personally would ride Rodgers as long as he can play in hopes of getting 1 or maybe 2 more SB's

[Joemailman]

Pretty clear Rodgers wants a longer committment
Pretty sure Goootie doesn't want that and if he gives in to what AROD wants it hurts his end plan in the Love Machine

I personally would ride Rodgers as long as he can play in hopes of getting 1 or maybe 2 more SB's

If they get to the end of 2022 and Rodgers is still elite, I would not be opposed to an extension.

[Upnorth]

If they get to the end of 2022 and Rodgers is still elite, I would not be opposed to an extension.

In that circumstance I would be open to a 2 yr extension.

[run pMc]

They won't do anything until the HAVE to. If they extend anyone, I'd like it to be Adams. Davante's earned it and losing him next year would be a big blow to the offense.

Re: Rodgers, agree extending a player his age is iffy. However, if he has a year like this past one where he barely gets hit/sacked and plays the MLF like a maestro, I say you do it. Makes the Jordan Love pick look bad, but maybe he can be used in a trade if he shows out in preseason or at least be a competent backup. 40 year old QBs don't often make it through a full season. His cap hit this year and next are in the $38-$40M range. That's a ton of cap space.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/

Kyle Fuller be a nice pickup and the whole contract thing from a few years ago makes the talk make sense, but Kyle's gonna want money, and Russ Ball will have to make cap room for that to happen.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Pretty clear Rodgers wants a longer committment

Why is this clear?

I've pointed this out numerous times, but here goes again. If the Rodgers contract is like almost every other contract, the Packers could have unilaterally converted his roster bonus into a signing bonus. They wouldn't need Rodgers consent. The idea that Rodgers prevented them from doing something like this seems very far-fetched. It would also be good for Rodgers. He gets guaranteed money now over potential money later. Also, depending on how much money was converted, it would have almost guaranteed Rodgers would be in Green Bay through 2022. Right now, the Packers could move on from him after 2021.

This was all about Gutekunst not wanting to lose that flexibility--unless he needed to use that money.

Personally, I would have converted some of that money. Enough to give Rodgers security through 2022, but no longer. I would have extended Adams also, I would have used that money to sign a FA who will make a difference (e.g. Kyle Fuller).

[texaspackerbacker]

You may be correct, but if that's the case, Gutekunst sucks as a GM. My opinion of him stopped going down down down with the re-signing of Aaron Jones, but if he fails to extend Rodgers to the max mainly to double down on the stupidity of drafting Love, then he's right back on the shit list. Extending Adams also is imperative and that one alone would allow signing of one decent FA.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You may be correct, but if that's the case, Gutekunst sucks as a GM. My opinion of him stopped going down down down with the re-signing of Aaron Jones, but if he fails to extend Rodgers to the max mainly to double down on the stupidity of drafting Love, then he's right back on the shit list. Extending Adams also is imperative and that one alone would allow signing of one decent FA.

Extending Adams has to be done, but it would only clear up enough for them to sign their RFAs and draft picks and have a buffer for the season. If they want to sign higher priced FAs, they’ll have to restructure Rodgers.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Fuller signs with Denver, 1y/$9.5m. Seems reasonable. Ugh! I’m having flashbacks to TT.