Official Free Agency/Offseason/Non-Draft Thread

[Bretsky]

What I liked about Mayfield was how natural and smart he was. He always had a good position and leverage and balance. He was only 245 his freshman year so bunker up 80 pounds in 2.5 years. I think he has more athletic ability because he's still filling out his frame and turning some of that quick gained bad weight into good weight. I have a really good feeling that Jalen Mayfield is gonna be a long time rock-solid tackle and a steal in the second round. He needs one more year to get his body right so there is some projecting there but he could turn out to be as good as the top 2 guys.

I am cool with Mayfield in round 2...............you get my OL attention for James Carpenter

WHO was big time pimping Jaelen Reagor last year ? That dude looks like he "might" have been all hype.

[Joemailman]

I am cool with Mayfield in round 2...............you get my OL attention for James Carpenter

WHO was big time pimping Jaelen Reagor last year ? That dude looks like he "might" have been all hype.

I liked Reagor. Brandon loved him. I wouldn't write Reagor off. Missed 5 games and had about 400 yards receiving. Returned a punt for a TD. Not terrible for a rookie. Especially for a guy on a team with bad QB situation and bad offensive line.

[Upnorth]

Joe, zool, I appreciate your caring words but it doesn't matter. He didn't win a Superbowl.
I was thinking of lofting another we example up in to the air for discussion, but he is a forgettable loser as well.

[RashanGary]

Where are you finding the McGinn stuff ? In the Athletic or on his site ?

I know everybody in here hated the Bobber

I found him the best writer on the Green Bay Packers I've ever followed, hands down. And his draft stuff was far superior to anything I saw on the NET

I'm catching a few fun podcasts though.

One dude was discussings Gutebags draft day bias and noted some similar to Teds......and then he systematically took about 8 different analysts and mixed it with the measurables Gute love and found about 112 draftable players for Green Bay.

About 20 with 1st round grades.....I think 24 for 2nd round grades......but only about 12 with 4th round grades. and a bunch with 5th to 7th round grades

He really thought odds are strong Gute trades one or both based on his research

Do an author search at the athletic. Search Bob McGinn

[RashanGary]

McGinn did WRs, OL and QB's so far. I like the smaller WRs who can do slot and gadget stuff. Rondale Moore looks good to me. I was glad to see the scouts said he was smart too. I don't know what they're being asked.to do and don't watch every game.so that's always a hard judgement for me to make. You don't want to call anyone tyreek Hill, but in that mold. Perfect for what we need

[RashanGary]

Guys I like - 1st round

Jeremiah Owusu Koramoa
Liam Eichenberg

2nd round
Rondale Moore
Jalen Mayfield

[Bretsky]

Newsome
Bateman
Jenkins
Collins would be my wishlist

[RashanGary]

Newsome
Bateman
Jenkins
Collins would be my wishlist

I like 3 of the 4 tentatively. Havent watched full games of Newsome and Bateman so just going off of write ups. Jenkins looks fine. Its just Collins I'm not a huge fan of cuz he was kinda boring to watch

[call_me_ishmael]

Interesting move by the Ravens. That gives them picks 27 and 31. Hope this doesn't mean they'll be taking Teven Jenkins at 27.

I think the Ravens are too smart to take a linemen from a nobody school like OSU and will instead trade back and either grab the guy from Alabama or ND. Best drafting team in the league.

[sharpe1027]

Not really. I'm no more jealous of the Patriots than I am of a utility infielder in MLB. They both live very rich lives because of their sports talent. One wins super bowls the other lives the dream. Not jealous to point out the Patriots REALLY get the benefit of a lot of calls. Since I'm not a Bellichek hater or a Brady hater I think I'm pretty objective on this. They simply get away with more historically and specifically they get away with it in the biggest moments. No, I'm not going to rehash the data, so you can simply call me an asshole if you want to.

This is why you get called an asshole. You have to keep taking cheap shots/personal jabs. For example, insulting me with a comment about 9th grade math. Then you accused me ignoring data from some perceived transgression months and months ago. Now you take another shot here. It's fine, but I stand by my comment. You act like an asshole.

[bobblehead]

Amazing move by the Chiefs. I understand the economic realities on the game but the Chiefs have been up against the cap for two years now I believe and they still manage to improve the team with moves like this. Where are the Packers during all of this? I'm not for signing big names that are just a big name and injury prone (see JJ Watt), but there are some legitimate players out there that could put them over the top. Signing a CB like Fuller or an LB like Lavonte David could have fundamentally changed the team's likelihood of winning the big game this year.

https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-acquire-lt-orlando-brown-in-trade-with-ravens?campaign=Twitter_atn

Why not take a shot at Mitchell Swartz? He'll be on a cheapo one year deal and if he works out he fundamentally changes the team's chances (I still draft a tackle in round one).

It frustrates me because there is a high probability they don't get as close as they were last year to the super bowl again in the next decade. Who knows if they'll even be competitive this year. But they should at least try to be.

The chiefs had to cut 2 tackles to make these amazing moves. Their OL is no better this year than last, and they gave up draft capital to do it. I'm not convinced the chiefs had a good offseason.

I don't disagree on grabbing Schwartz if he can be had on a cheap one year. Not sure he can be at this point. Also, they won't do anything until after the draft because if the right OT drops into their lap Schwartz would just be a wasted signing.

[bobblehead]

I don't call others assholes in forums.....well...unless I call myself one

I would agree that the Pats get some calls and the officials have treated them way too good

As a fan I am undoubtedly jealous and would love to take all the favoritism they got and the titles and transfer then to GB

Fire away. I'm trying to provoke conversation and people take it the wrong way sometimes. Its all good. I'll let him be for a bit.

As for the packers and the officials we have gotten the benefit of plenty of calls last couple years....but in the biggest moment in last years NFCC we definitely were on the short end of the stick.

[bobblehead]

In my last ten years of watching the draft is really seems like the Ravens take the guy I want.....backup award would go to the Pittsburg Steelers.

Repped, and ditto. Happens every damn year. Honorary mention to the Jets for trading up ahead of us to grab Revis years ago.

[bobblehead]

This is why you get called an asshole. You have to keep taking cheap shots/personal jabs. For example, insulting me with a comment about 9th grade math. Then you accused me ignoring data from some perceived transgression months and months ago. Now you take another shot here. It's fine, but I stand by my comment. You act like an asshole.

You seem obsessed. I'm not sure what in my Patriots post has you triggered, but its fine. I have actually only been called an asshole by you. Yes, the 9th grade math was a cheap shot. My apologies. It was meant more tongue in cheek, but things get lost in text without inflection. I was going to just let it all go, but since you came back to it I offer you my apology. Hopefully we can get back to meaningful and fun football discussion.

[sharpe1027]

You seem obsessed. I'm not sure what in my Patriots post has you triggered, but its fine. I have actually only been called an asshole by you. Yes, the 9th grade math was a cheap shot. My apologies. It was meant more tongue in cheek, but things get lost in text without inflection. I was going to just let it all go, but since you came back to it I offer you my apology. Hopefully we can get back to meaningful and fun football discussion.

You seemed obsessed to me, digging up posts from months ago to take shots at me rather than the topic at hand and then referencing our conversation iin a completely unrelated post with another poster. I took no shots at you, I just asked questions about something you posted

I posted a statistical analysis of free agent spending and the success of NFL teams. If you want to have a meaningful discussion, I'm happy to start there. If you just want to offer your opinions and not look at the data, I will just move on.