Official Free Agency/Offseason/Non-Draft Thread

[sharpe1027]

5 to 7 out of 32 is certainly a percentage if you passed 9th grade math. And I don't recall how many years I went back, something like 15 probably because the game and cap situation/manipulation changes about that often. So, 2 of 15 have truly "gone for it" and won. 7 were the patriots. That leaves 6 that won without "going for it". If 5-7 try each year the midpoint of 6 x 15 years would suggest about 90 teams Have failed using said strategy while handicapping themselves. I would put US in that category 2 years ago when we went on a spending spree which helped put us in the cap situation we are in now.

We can just go back and forth all day. How do you define "going for it". Every year I see teams mortgage their futures. Sign all kinds of guys to record breaking deals. Saints are the extreme example currently. Bottom line is this. Packers were in tough cap shape and kicked some forward already. They will be in pretty bad shape next year.

The league is designed for parity. To elevate bad teams and deflate successful teams. We, and everyone else, have trouble winning multiple Owls because the system is intentionally rigged. We had the best QB in the game, now top 5 still and we draft in the back of EVERY round EVERY year. Our FA dollars are competing with EVERY other team so we can't just magically sign anyone we want to improve the team.

Going back to 2000 only 5 teams have won multiple owls. NE, Pitt, and Balt are known to NOT get into cap hell (yet PITT is currently trying its best to get into it). TB was 18 years apart. The Giants were just the luckiest team ever twice and didn't really sell out either time. That leaves 6 farts in the wind. If we had a competent head coach for the last 15 years I have no doubt our name would be on that list having done it the slow and steady way. Since we sold out under Gutes we have 2 "almosts". I'm ok with his approach overall, but next year will be a year of reckoning. They will either have to extend Rodgers, Trade Rodgers, or keep him with a much inferior roster to the one we have right now. There is no other approach next season.

It's a percentage, just not the right one. You claimed the success rate was about the same for either approach. To determine that, you need to count how many teams took each approach and use that as your denominator. 9th grade math, indeed.

In order to make that calculation, you need to define how you define go for it. Good luck with that, but since you made the claim, you should back it up.

[Upnorth]

I grew up during the Lombardi era... yes, championships are my standard.

Who lost the NFC Championship Game in 1975, '83, 06, etc... all anyone remembers or commemorates is Championships.

We've won 4 since 1967, that's the only stat that matters.

I agree it is the most important stat. But far from the inly one in my opinion.

[sharpe1027]

I grew up during the Lombardi era... yes, championships are my standard.

Who lost the NFC Championship Game in 1975, '83, 06, etc... all anyone remembers or commemorates is Championships.

We've won 4 since 1967, that's the only stat that matters.

There's no right or wrong way to follow your favorite team. I enjoyed many things besides the championships and recall many other seasons fondly. Each to his own.

[RashanGary]

There's no right or wrong way to follow your favorite team. I enjoyed many things besides the championships and recall many other seasons fondly. Each to his own.

Me too. 2007 is one of my most memorable years. I look back on it similarly to the 2010 run. I felt like they were gonna win it but both Jolly and KGB were injuried and the defense fell apart down the stretch. But that was a great Favre year, my favorite Favre year post super bowl.

[RashanGary]

I’m 40 years old. My favorite Packer seasons are:

2007
2010
2020

I was too young for 1996. I loved the years but don’t remember the quality of team or nuances because I didn’t understand football at 15 years old like I did in my 20s abd 30s

[RashanGary]

1989 - as a kid I loved magic and sharpe
1996 - still a kid, loved Reggie and favre
2007 - favres greatest season later in career, and Woodson
2010 - Rodgers, Driver, Jennings, Collins, Woodson, Nelson
2020 - Rodgers, Adams, Jones, Z, Alexander and Clark

I loved the Sitton and Lang years on the OL and the Bakh and Bulaga years, and the years with like 5 WRs and Lacy, etc..... I definitely appreciate a lot more than just the SB runs

[RashanGary]

The year we had Bakh/Sitton/(LindsleyTretter)/Lang/Bulaga.... it might have been two years. No weapons, Nelson was hurt, dick rod was our #2 passing weapon. Rodgers would stand back, step forward, go back again, forward, and eventually someone would come open. That was unique football.

[wist43]

Enjoying the building process and analyzing the draft and trades is all part of being a fan too.

You guys are young enough that you didn't have to endure the dark years. You're spoiled... but, such is the life condition of your pathetic generation

[sharpe1027]

Enjoying the building process and analyzing the draft and trades is all part of being a fan too.

You guys are young enough that you didn't have to endure the dark years. You're spoiled... but, such is the life condition of your pathetic generation

I suffered through times when the best parts of the season were giving the bears a tougher game than it should be and the expections of a high draft picks, which were subsequently used on players like Tony Mandrich.

[RashanGary]

Enjoying the building process and analyzing the draft and trades is all part of being a fan too.

You guys are young enough that you didn't have to endure the dark years. You're spoiled... but, such is the life condition of your pathetic generation

Shut up, wist

[wist43]

Shut up, wist

Lol

[run pMc]

I suffered through times when the best parts of the season were giving the bears a tougher game than it should be and the expections of a high draft picks, which were subsequently used on players like Tony Mandrich.

Or Brent Fumblewood. Or David Whitehurst. Yeah, I remember the bad old days and don't wish them back. Cheering for a contender is much better.

[Upnorth]

I asked my mom and dad how to get a Mandrich jersey. I was very stupid.
I remember telling friends that majik was as good as Marino.
I was an idiot

[RashanGary]

I asked my mom and dad how to get a Mandrich jersey. I was very stupid.
I remember telling friends that majik was as good as Marino.
I was an idiot

Majik WAS as good as Marino

[bobblehead]

Patriots at +4000 is my small darling bet of the offseason. I made three others, including the Giants, predicting some nice free agent activity and chemistry at QB.

I love patriots over 9 wins. I realize they no longer play in the weakest division in football as even the Jets look to be much improved, but they are immensely improved.