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  • #61
    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Leonhard’s D allowed 30-something points against that Catholic cow college named after Jesus’ Mother. The D has never been able to stop the Ohio State.

    What makes you think Leonhard and his Rex Ryan-inspired D woulda excelled in the Green and Musta Yella?

    Frog shoulda hired Al Harris.


    did you even Watch the F'ckin Game ?

    Here's a Hint: GO READ THE BOXSCORE, and then insert your foot back down your throat
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      did you even Watch the F'ckin Game ?

      Here's a Hint: GO READ THE BOXSCORE, and then insert your foot back down your throat
      Watched a few minutes of the 4th quarter. What I saw was, some 3rd string QB came in and annihilated Wisconsin’s D.

      Leonhard’s D is decent at feasting on cupcakes like Southern Kentucky Confederate State A&M. Against the semi-pro teams (OSU, ND, etc.), the D sucks like I suck at poker, and I idiotically lost almost 6k at poker this year.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
        , the D sucks like I suck at poker, and I idiotically lost almost 6k at poker this year.
        Better start flipping more burgers.

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        • #64
          The defense is improving. You can tell as the players get more comfortable they are moving faster and the pass rush is more active.

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          • #65
            I didn't see that much improvement. To some extent, a lot of players got inspired and played good early on. But the key was that the Niners had most of their RBs injured. They still got away with short passing us to death at times, and in the second half, even their 4th stringer, Sermon, and their fullback, the guy with the funny name, ran enough to do us some harm.

            Barry still refused to blitz most of the game, then the one time he shouldn't have, on the goal line with the back of the endzone to help out, he did blitz and got beat. Then for the one series, he got smart and blitzed in the middle of the field - with pretty good results. Then with the game on the line, he went back to doing things his normal way and nearly lost it.
            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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            • #66
              So we are tied for first in the league with fewest missed tackles. Is that allowed by a packers d??? I thought the deal we made forbid it in exchange for never endong hof qbs
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #67
                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                I didn't see that much improvement. To some extent, a lot of players got inspired and played good early on. But the key was that the Niners had most of their RBs injured. They still got away with short passing us to death at times, and in the second half, even their 4th stringer, Sermon, and their fullback, the guy with the funny name, ran enough to do us some harm.

                Barry still refused to blitz most of the game, then the one time he shouldn't have, on the goal line with the back of the endzone to help out, he did blitz and got beat. Then for the one series, he got smart and blitzed in the middle of the field - with pretty good results. Then with the game on the line, he went back to doing things his normal way and nearly lost it.
                Packers had 21 players blitz against the 49ers. Less than against the Lions (28),but more than against he Saints (12).
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #68
                  Did 21 D players even get in the game? and 28 against Detroit? I'm just messing with you - I think I know what you mean even if it isn't what you said. We blitzed enough times that when you consider multiple players coming in, it added up to 21 and 28, right?

                  That's fine and dandy if you consider our OLBs rushing the passer to be blitzing. For the Packers, though, Gary, the Smiths, Garvin, Rivers rushing the QB is pretty much just our basic D. Adding that to 3, usually less D Linemen, and it's hardly bringing the house. When Barry did briefly blitz in other ways in the second half, it worked out pretty well (except for that one time on the goal line where he basically shoulda known better than to blitz).

                  I'm still not totally against Barry like some people are. I'm still withholding final judgment because we won the two games, but he ain't looking good so far.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    Did 21 D players even get in the game? and 28 against Detroit? I'm just messing with you - I think I know what you mean even if it isn't what you said. We blitzed enough times that when you consider multiple players coming in, it added up to 21 and 28, right?

                    That's fine and dandy if you consider our OLBs rushing the passer to be blitzing. For the Packers, though, Gary, the Smiths, Garvin, Rivers rushing the QB is pretty much just our basic D. Adding that to 3, usually less D Linemen, and it's hardly bringing the house. When Barry did briefly blitz in other ways in the second half, it worked out pretty well (except for that one time on the goal line where he basically shoulda known better than to blitz).

                    I'm still not totally against Barry like some people are. I'm still withholding final judgment because we won the two games, but he ain't looking good so far.
                    So your saying you want them to blitz more, but only when it works?

                    If only it was that easy.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                      Overall this was a fuck up of epic proportions in my opinion. If I was looking for an up-and-comer, maybe I would have put in a phone call to see if Dave Aranda was interested after he kind of stunk it up at Baylor.
                      Dammit, stop going after our coaches!
                      I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                      • #71
                        If Barry wants to be successful, they need to figure things out in the red zone. Packers are 9th in the NFL in yards given up, but 24th in points given up. Reason is opponents are 10-10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. They also need to do a better job on 3rd down, but more than anything else, they need to start forcing teams to settle for field goals.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          If Barry wants to be successful, they need to figure things out in the red zone. Packers are 9th in the NFL in yards given up, but 24th in points given up. Reason is opponents are 10-10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. They also need to do a better job on 3rd down, but more than anything else, they need to start forcing teams to settle for field goals.
                          Agree. RZ defense has not been good.
                          Being in top 10 for yards allowed doesn't impress me much; I'm more interested in Scoring Defense and Opposing QB Rating for high level stats.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                            So your saying you want them to blitz more, but only when it works?

                            If only it was that easy.
                            What I said is that blitzing most places on the field is a good thing and a necessary thing for a team like the Packers that doesn't generate enough pass pressure without blitzing. However, when you are backed up to your own endzone, that is exactly the time not to blitz - the end line crams everything in together, so playing max coverage is the thing to do. Barry blitzed there - basically the first time in the game - and it resulted in a Niner TD.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              If Barry wants to be successful, they need to figure things out in the red zone. Packers are 9th in the NFL in yards given up, but 24th in points given up. Reason is opponents are 10-10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. They also need to do a better job on 3rd down, but more than anything else, they need to start forcing teams to settle for field goals.
                              Weren't they really good in the red zone last year? Or maybe that was the offense?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                                Weren't they really good in the red zone last year? Or maybe that was the offense?
                                They were #1 on offense, #8 on defense.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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