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  • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    I’m pretty sure NE had around half their defensive starters opt out because of COVID too.
    They have a bunch returning from covid, a bunch of free agents and Newton is in his second year in the offense. Let's let this play out before we call that move disastrous.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
      Cutting a year kills their leverage with AR next year and reduces his trade value too. Everybody knows the Packers have given up on AR and wish to unload him. I don't see why this is a brilliant move. It's a hell of a concession to keep Rodgers on the team for 2021.

      Perhaps the team thought Rodgers might actually retire. That's the best explanation to me.
      Is bending a little bit such a bad thing?
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • Looks like the deal is worked out. He's back in GB.

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        • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          I’m pretty sure NE had around half their defensive starters opt out because of COVID too.
          I would just push back and say what a stupid example. How many HOFers are there? Look at how many busts there are instead. Also, where were those players picked? Andy Luck #1, Steve Young #1, etc etc.

          Brady is old as hell and it was probably time for him to move on but look at the ass talent they had two years ago. Was a shit team that got destroyed in playoffsz

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          • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
            If this deal is real, the next choice the Packers have to make

            Give Jordan Love a third year of development behind one of the GOATs (something that can help Loves development)

            Or

            Take the pick or picks and throw love in the fire with an extra piece or two around him
            Nonsense. This is clearly being reported as they will be trading Rodgers next year.

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              But it's not just swapping Love for Rodgers. You have a chance to pick up a couple very high draft picks, and more importantly, save 30-40 million on the salary cap for a couple years. That can be used to keep their best players or sign free agents. If Love can play. Packers could come out of this looking very good.
              They might get a #2 for him. Might. Favre yielded two R3 and was younger amazingly.

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              • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                They might get a #2 for him. Might. Favre yielded two R3 and was younger amazingly.
                Provided Rodgers plays well, they'll get more than that. Probably significantly more. Three big differences: 1) teams aren't afraid to give up draft capital in trades like they were back in 2008, 2) more QBs (Favre was the first with his 2009 season, Manning, Brees and Brady into their 40s) have played well at an old age than in the past, 3) Rodgers played better this year (and probably next year) than Favre did in 2007. Favre was good, but not MVP caliber good. Plus, Favre had two atrocious years leading into 2007. Rodgers was above average the two previous years.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                  One year. Rodgers will never hang around for a second year, his clock is ticking.

                  The Packers have essentially given up all their bargaining leverage now and then said "we negotiate again in a year." All signs point to the Packers making their peace with the new era. But I suppose it's still possible that Aaron appreciates this kid glove treatment and just decides to finish his career in GB. Maybe Murphy is the wise zen master.

                  Maybe the amount of moola he's earned already is the core root of the problem, I mean the guy shows up last night at Austin Straubel airport in his private plane.
                  Not only does that much money demotivate him cuz he now has more than 100 lifetimes worth of it, but it has turned him into a DIVA that thinks he's bigger than generations of Packer team management.

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                  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                    Is bending a little bit such a bad thing?
                    Not a little bend, a complete cave.

                    QB is different than every other position. The Packers are their QB. Now the team is lead by a one-year-rental.

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                    • Originally posted by Vincenzo View Post
                      Maybe the amount of moola he's earned already is the core root of the problem, I mean the guy shows up last night at Austin Straubel airport in his private plane.
                      Not only does that much money demotivate him cuz he now has more than 100 lifetimes worth of it, but it has turned him into a DIVA that thinks he's bigger than generations of Packer team management.
                      Sounds pretty right.

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                      • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                        Favre was the first with his 2009 season, Manning, Brees and Brady into their 40s
                        Before I get corrected. This looks like I'm saying Favre and Manning played well into their 40s. It was late 30s. I believe Favre had an MVP like season at 39 and Manning at 38, Brees at 40, and Brady at 43.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                          Provided Rodgers plays well, they'll get more than that. Probably significantly more. Three big differences: 1) teams aren't afraid to give up draft capital in trades like they were back in 2008, 2) more QBs (Favre was the first with his 2009 season, Manning, Brees and Brady into their 40s) have played well at an old age than in the past, 3) Rodgers played better this year (and probably next year) than Favre did in 2007. Favre was good, but not MVP caliber good. Plus, Favre had two atrocious years leading into 2007. Rodgers was above average the two previous years.
                          In addition to that, Favre had the retirement issue. No one was going to give up a lot to possibly have Favre for only a year. It's a very different situation with Rodgers. Now, there is the issue of which teams Rodgers would be willing to go to. If he wants to play out west, Oakland and Vegas might be the only teams there looking for a QB. Maybe Rams if Stafford doesn't work out. You need at least 2 teams bidding against each other for there to be much market value.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            In addition to that, Favre had the retirement issue. No one was going to give up a lot to possibly have Favre for only a year. It's a very different situation with Rodgers. Now, there is the issue of which teams Rodgers would be willing to go to. If he wants to play out west, Oakland and Vegas might be the only teams there looking for a QB. Maybe Rams if Stafford doesn't work out. You need at least 2 teams bidding against each other for there to be much market value.
                            Two words:

                            Matt Stafford

                            If anyone thinks ARod is worth less than Stafford, they are nuts.
                            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                            -Tim Harmston

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                            • Originally posted by Vincenzo View Post
                              Maybe the amount of moola he's earned already is the core root of the problem, I mean the guy shows up last night at Austin Straubel airport in his private plane.
                              Not only does that much money demotivate him cuz he now has more than 100 lifetimes worth of it, but it has turned him into a DIVA that thinks he's bigger than generations of Packer team management.
                              Nobody pays hard-earned frog skins to watch Gutekunst and Murphy sit in a skybox. I once made the mistake of paying $200 of my minimum-wage earnings to watch Brett Hundley play against the Baltimore Ravens, who slaughtered the Pack 42-0, or something in that manner.

                              12’s the face of the Packers, the race of the Packers. Fuck yeah, 12’s bigger than faceless management.

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                              • Hope the douche is motivated!
                                Packers should have said if he wins the SB then he gets to say how the team is run.

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