What do we have in Jordan Love?

[RashanGary]

QB's have long careers. Love could backup Rodgers for 4 years and still have all of his best years starting and make a fortune. He gets a lot of valuable experience backing up a HOfer. He won't like sitting but he's making a lot of money, should see injury time, and can find the silver lining in his educational experience. He is in the best situation to give him.his best chance when the time comes. Starting right away can hurt guys.

[wist43]

The neverending circular discussion... always comes back to - Love was a stupid pick. Never should have been drafted in the first place.

[George Cumby]

Bullshit.

Rodgers looked to be in decline before the 2020 season.

#12 is one injury from done.

[Bretsky]

Bullshit.

Rodgers looked to be in decline before the 2020 season.

#12 is one injury from done.

I don't but into this at all; Rodgers had one season in LaFleur's system. There was some adapting and its natural to have some challenges in year one

Maybe you don't buy into that; Gutebag definitely did not and would agree with you.

But I think the jump in play from year one to year two was not surprising.

With that being said, with your view then it sounds like you want Rodgers to be traded.

While I would not mind that (draft day with Denver would have been the time), I would rather keep Rodgers and win now

[Bretsky]

The neverending circular discussion... always comes back to - Love was a stupid pick. Never should have been drafted in the first place.

Truth be told, I don't hate the player; I hate the year. It was two years early. I'm not confident Love will be anything above average; but I'm happy to be wrong. The choice was not stupid; IMO the timing was

[RashanGary]

Truth be told, I don't hate the player; I hate the year. It was two years early. I'm not confident Love will be anything above average; but I'm happy to be wrong. The choice was not stupid; IMO the timing was

Unless Love is a HOF type quarterback, it was two years early. If Love is great, the pick is great regardless of how soon it was made. That’s a big if. But obviously they thought he was special, so they made the pick and now we wait and see.

[RashanGary]

There’s no doubt in my mind the Packers brass thought Love was special. No way they trade up otherwise.

[wist43]

Truth be told, I don't hate the player; I hate the year. It was two years early. I'm not confident Love will be anything above average; but I'm happy to be wrong. The choice was not stupid; IMO the timing was

I wouldn't have worried about QB until Rodgers was clearly done.

QB is such a difficult position to project... the vast majority don't succeed, regardless of round. Boyle has as much of a chance of succeeding once he gets a shot as Love does.

I like Love's arm talent too, but QB is more about what's between your ears as it is physical talent. Never would have drafted Love where and when they did.

The mess it's created is, by itself, enough to say it was a stupid pick.

[George Cumby]

I don't but into this at all; Rodgers had one season in LaFleur's system. There was some adapting and its natural to have some challenges in year one

Maybe you don't buy into that; Gutebag definitely did not and would agree with you.

But I think the jump in play from year one to year two was not surprising.

With that being said, with your view then it sounds like you want Rodgers to be traded.

While I would not mind that (draft day with Denver would have been the time), I would rather keep Rodgers and win now

Fair enough, but the 2019 season, Rodgers was off. Balls in the dirt, missing easy throws, poor timing, something wasn't right. Given what had happened to him in '17 an '18, his career looked to be on a downward trend.

2020 was a great ride, no question, but the MVP was far from a sure thing.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Love won’t be sitting on the bench for 4 years. He’s either starting by year 4 or they’ll move him because Rodgers is still playing like an MVP.

[texaspackerbacker]

The neverending circular discussion... always comes back to - Love was a stupid pick. Never should have been drafted in the first place.

This is absolutely true, but what RG said and what Bretsky said is also true.

As for what Cumby said, literally anybody in the NFL is "one injury away from being done". The chance of it happening to any given player, even an older one, is extremely small.

As for run pMc's question, I'll turn it around and ask, what #1 draft pick ever backed up the GOAT QB before? If Love is any good, he can wait. Besides, it's not up to him, at least not before the end of his rookie contract. I'm thinking it is about 60/40 or 70/30 that Love has a decent NFL career, and maybe a 10-20% chance he is a star quality player - maybe about .5 of 1% that he matches Aaron Rodgers for his career. So if he doesn't play himself out of contention, I'd keep him for 4 or 5 years as the backup.

And I'm still waiting for any comment pro or con about what to me seems obvious, that they should make use of Love in the mean time - wild cat, WR in motion as a diversion, WR in motion as a runner or passer, WR as an occasional pass receiver, punt returner.

[run pMc]

what #1 draft pick ever backed up the GOAT QB before?

Blaine Gabbert backed up Tom Brady last year. He was a high R1 pick for JAX and bounced around as a retread.

OR you could go older school and look at Steve Young backing up who I used to think was the GOAT - Joe Montana. Young was running for his life as a high R1 pick for Tampa before the Niners stole him, and that situation got ugly after a while. Montana ended his career with the Chiefs.

that they should make use of Love in the mean time - wild cat, WR in motion as a diversion, WR in motion as a runner or passer, WR as an occasional pass receiver, punt returner.

You want your backup QB returning punts? Really? If you think he's unfit to be a QB and should be a WR then you see something in him Gute and others do not. Turning him into Braxton Miller would be a weird use of a R1 pick, especially when there were WRs at that spot we were all hoping Gute would pick. I don't think Love is actually athletic enough to be a good WR; he's not big enough for TE. Maybe you could try turning him into Taysom Hill, if MLF wanted to install that part of an offense. I don't know.
I see your point about trying to get something out of him and play him with Rodgers on the team, but there isn't an easy path. I will say if they had a play where Love was in shotgun and Rodgers went out wide and just stood there disinterested like Jay Cutler did in Miami I would crack up laughing.

[sharpe1027]

Fair enough, but the 2019 season, Rodgers was off. Balls in the dirt, missing easy throws, poor timing, something wasn't right. Given what had happened to him in '17 an '18, his career looked to be on a downward trend.

2020 was a great ride, no question, but the MVP was far from a sure thing.

This. All day.

[Bretsky]

Agree Rodgers was off 2 years ago. He was still probably a top 10 QB.

Gute had to make the call if he had deteriorating skills or if that was due to the adjustment in a new system.

Gute made his call when he traded up for the Luvmachine

[sharpe1027]

Agree Rodgers was off 2 years ago. He was still probably a top 10 QB.

Gute had to make the call if he had deteriorating skills or if that was due to the adjustment in a new system.

Gute made his call when he traded up for the Luvmachine

I don't see it that binary. If Love wasn't there, I doubt they pick a QB at all. They probably saw a lot of value, and the play of Rodgers was only a portion of the decision.