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  • Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
    Just curious, what leads you to believe the Packers receiver core will be weak in 2022 ?
    No one signed past 2021 except amari rodgers.
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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    • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
      Love sure ain’t a sure thing. I think even the most hopeful Love fans know there’s a bust potential.
      It depends on the definition of bust but yeah I'd put it at 95% chance that he never carries a team and can legitimately be a game changer.

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      • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        It depends on the definition of bust but yeah I'd put it at 95% chance that he never carries a team and can legitimately be a game changer.
        Interesting percentage, but carrying a team and being a game changers or far from clear criteria, so you've safely hedged your position. How many game changers would you say there are right now in the NFL?

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        • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
          No one signed past 2021 except amari rodgers.
          Your making assumptions for tomorrow based on the facts of today. Your mistake is assuming things operate in a linear direction.

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          • Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
            Just curious, what leads you to believe the Packers receiver core will be weak in 2022 ?
            After adams i these guys are really just 3’s & 4’s. MVS could be more if he could stop with the ridiculous drops. However they’re all FA after this year. If Rodgers is gone there’s little chance Adams signs a new deal. If he’s back it’s under the tag.

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            • Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
              After adams i these guys are really just 3’s & 4’s. MVS could be more if he could stop with the ridiculous drops. However they’re all FA after this year. If Rodgers is gone there’s little chance Adams signs a new deal. If he’s back it’s under the tag.
              You assume that players want to play with Rodgers. If that was the case, the Packers would have to turn away FA's. It's always about money. The only time I've seen players take less is when they are at the end of the careers and no longer command the big contracts. At that point they are no longer the difference maker they used to be.

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              • I think if Gute waves a $30M signing bonus in front of Adams he signs. This is his last year and they could tag him; meaning both this year and next he'd be on essentially one year deals. Injuries and all sorts of things happen, and I'd bet Adams would like that security up front and sign an extension, Rodgers or no.
                In the pros, winning is great, but money talks.

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                • Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                  You assume that players want to play with Rodgers. If that was the case, the Packers would have to turn away FA's. It's always about money. The only time I've seen players take less is when they are at the end of the careers and no longer command the big contracts. At that point they are no longer the difference maker they used to be.
                  What? You don’t think WR want to counter in here? You have to be willing to sign them. How do you know agents for guys aren’t calling to see if we’re interested? We’re so spoiled with Aaron making guys better that we forget our big WR free agent is devin funchess lol.

                  Our philosophy appears to be draft dudes later like MVS who have raw tools & hope they develop.

                  We got a guy earlier than usual this year, not the one I’d have picked, but I’m hoping they’re right.

                  But yes it’s always about money. All things equal or damn near, without Rodgers we’re probably not signing anyone until we have a guy who has proven he can do the job or looks like he’s going to develop.

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                  • Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                    After adams i these guys are really just 3’s & 4’s. MVS could be more if he could stop with the ridiculous drops. However they’re all FA after this year. If Rodgers is gone there’s little chance Adams signs a new deal. If he’s back it’s under the tag.
                    You assume that players want to play with Rodgers. If that was the case, the Packers would have to turn away FA's. It's always about money. The only time I've seen players take less is when they are at the end of the careers and no longer command the big contracts.

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                    • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                      I think if Gute waves a $30M signing bonus in front of Adams he signs. This is his last year and they could tag him; meaning both this year and next he'd be on essentially one year deals. Injuries and all sorts of things happen, and I'd bet Adams would like that security up front and sign an extension, Rodgers or no.
                      In the pros, winning is great, but money talks.
                      Adams, same as Rodgers (the QB not the rookie WR), is good because of things he does that should not deteriorate much with age. Thus, a huge bonus and fairly long term contract would be a good idea. With many WRs, it might be better just to franchise the guy - kick the can down the road a year - because they would be a helluva lot more likely to drop off in quality over time.
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • So much is being made about nobody other than the rookie signed past next season. That's a red herring, though. Lazard and Valdez-Scantling are quality players worthy of extensions right now, but the cap was way down this season, and we didn't have to sign them now. Assuming they don't nosedive in performance, it should be extremely likely that we retain both of them beyond next season - when the cap bounces back to normal and makes up for the down year this year. In addition, I don't have much hope for Funchess, but I do have good hope for St. Brown shaping up and being a quality NFL WR.
                        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                        • I saw somewhere our cap situation isnt much better next year

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                          • Gosh, I bet that was in the media hahahahahahahahahahaha.

                            Everybody's cap will be extremely better next year - the normal increase plus this year's increase that didn't happen plus the amount of the decrease this year.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • Love has the GB organization behind him. Fields has the Bears organization behind him. I believe that Fields is a superior talent and prospect. I equally feel that Love will have the better NFL career if he stays with us.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                                Gosh, I bet that was in the media hahahahahahahahahahaha.

                                Everybody's cap will be extremely better next year - the normal increase plus this year's increase that didn't happen plus the amount of the decrease this year.
                                Packers have pushed a lot of money into 2022 to avoid having to cut players. Gute has said many times it's a 2 year process. Things won't get back to close to normal until 2023.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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