What do we have in Jordan Love?

[Upnorth]

2016 rodgers was at least top 5 but missing reads and to much holding ball or bailing on plays held him back. 2017 injury. 2018 tons of missed open receivers and not making plays with worsening accuracy. Still great but worse than 2016 and just back from major injury.
2019 new offense that was better for qb but he preformed worse. It's of under throws and misses. As well as missed reads. Worse than 2018.

3 years decline with a second major collar bone injury, qb falls in draft with tons of upside. That's why you draft the qb of the future. How do you assume there is an MVP year left?

[Fritz]

2016 rodgers was at least top 5 but missing reads and to much holding ball or bailing on plays held him back. 2017 injury. 2018 tons of missed open receivers and not making plays with worsening accuracy. Still great but worse than 2016 and just back from major injury.
2019 new offense that was better for qb but he preformed worse. It's of under throws and misses. As well as missed reads. Worse than 2018.

3 years decline with a second major collar bone injury, qb falls in draft with tons of upside. That's why you draft the qb of the future. How do you assume there is an MVP year left?

Hindsight, baby, hindsight!

[George Cumby]

Hindsight, baby, hindsight!

Oooooooooooooooh!

You mean that 20/20 thing!

[Joemailman]

Hopefully we won't be singing...

[King Friday]

I don't see it that binary. If Love wasn't there, I doubt they pick a QB at all. They probably saw a lot of value, and the play of Rodgers was only a portion of the decision.

I agree with this. The Packers did not take Love because they felt Rodgers was already in decline. There was probably some uncertainty in his play during 18 and 19, but I would assume a lot of that was chalked up to staleness in McCarthy's scheme and then the transition to an entirely new scheme. Rodgers played poorly for him during those years, but he remained a top 6-8 QB despite the explainable variances.

[Joemailman]

PFF with their projection for Jordan Love as starter this year. This would be fairly comparable to Rodgers' 1st season as a starter which was 4038, 28, 13.

[bobblehead]

Hindsight, baby, hindsight!

/threadkiller

You nailed it Fritz. I wasn't nuts about the Love pick, but it only looks terrible in hindsight. All the rest of this is just us getting antsy for the season.

[Upnorth]

To me the love pick does not look terriblevin hindsight but incredibly intelligent still even if we lose 12.

3 times in his career he has gone out for the season and the back ups have been poor. 2019 was the best roster we have had outside of possibly 2010 and 2014 since 1997 prior to 2020. If the scouts thought love will be a decent backup at least then unless there was a great run defender (our true weakness coming out of 2019) no other position group needed depth more.

If 12 was an uninjured ironman like Favre or a quick release pocket passer like Brady then you don't have to plan for injury, rodgers isn't.
No brainer in hindsight and foresight unless you are a rodgers fan and not a packers fan.

[sharpe1027]

I'm of the mind that the whole Rodgers drama would have come about even without the Love pick. Therefore, it's looking pretty damn good in hindsight.

[texaspackerbacker]

Why would you think that, sharpe? I'd say it's pretty obvious that the Love pick and not talking to Rodgers about it is the biggest reason for the current mess.

Just the same, though, I'm also coming around in hindsight to the view that it may have been a decent pick - not for anything as stupid as anticipation of this current crap, but because it's starting to look like Love might be a good prospect for the (hopefully distant) future. It's also stupid to act like Rodgers is injury prone, but shit can happen to anybody. Just the same, neither Boyle nor Love nor Bortles nor anybody else there is a ghost of a chance we could have would be an adequate replacement for Rodgers. That 24 TDs and 15 Interceptions projected above is exactly the kind of mediocrity that would make the Packers a sub. .500 team.

[Upnorth]

If we have no run game and bad d that stat line gets us a loosing season. I though jones was a difference maker in many posters eyes, but maybe he isn't.

That stat line with an average at best run game with bad game design for running equalled 6-10 in rodgers rookie year. We have a better team and better gane plan. I think that stat line gets us 10-7 ish.

However with Lafluer I don't think he get 4000 yards or 25 yrs. I think it gets 3600ish yards and 20ish tds with jones/dillion/deguara stealing yards and tds

[texaspackerbacker]

You think Deguara is gonna be running the ball? Sheeeeesh. That's about as far out as this silly whole scenario of life after Rodgers anytime soon.

[Joemailman]

You think Deguara is gonna be running the ball? Sheeeeesh. That's about as far out as this silly whole scenario of life after Rodgers anytime soon.

He might run the ball a little bit. Since there's no true FB on the roster, he might fill that role. He's been compared to Kyle Juszczyk of SF who ran the ball some last year.

[George Cumby]

PFF with their projection for Jordan Love as starter this year. This would be fairly comparable to Rodgers' 1st season as a starter which was 4038, 28, 13.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

[RashanGary]

Wolf tree GMs have been home run hitters at the QB position. Love, a boom or bust prospect with an upside similar to Mahommes or Rodgers, is in an absolutely ideal situation to master his fundamentals and subtleties before he has to play.

The Packers took a gamble on 15 more years of possible greatness. He’s starting to shine in spurts.

I will actually feel bad for Bears and Vikings fans if we somehow luck (not all luck) into 15 more years of HOF level QB play. There’s one HOF QB picked every 3 years or so. I don’t think they would have taken him if they didn’t think there was a chance at greatness. I’m crossing my fingers. Love truly panning out is more impactful than anything Rodgers can do for the rest of his career. Let’s hope we get to see Love shine this preseason!


And if not, it’s one first round pick that could have easily been dial tone Jones, Sherrod or Harrell. No harm no foul. Good pick.