Last Dance Green Bay

[MadScientist]

I'm wondering, who is happy about the situation - if the "reports" i.e. the speculation of that shithead, Adam Shefter, is correct? I sure as hell am NOT. One year, if absolutely everything goes right, we maybe win a Super Bowl (BFD), then it's oblivion, down the drain, that to me is NOT something to be pleased about.

Winning the Super Bowl is a BFD. They only one 1 with Favre and so far 1 with Rodgers. Sure Rodgers may have a couple of good years left after this year, but probably not that many. If they can get a decent haul from trading him, it will go a long way to helping the team be back on top in a couple of years.

[Sparkey]

He looks so _______________________________________.

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[Fritz]

I'm wondering, who is happy about the situation - if the "reports" i.e. the speculation of that shithead, Adam Shefter, is correct? I sure as hell am NOT. One year, if absolutely everything goes right, we maybe win a Super Bowl (BFD), then it's oblivion, down the drain, that to me is NOT something to be pleased about.

Well, Randall Cobb is happy - this is a move clearly designed to placate Rodgers- the team is in the process of acquiring an over-the-hill player at a position the team just drafted an exciting player for.

So now ESB or Malik Taylor or both will be gone so Rodgers can have his buddy on the team.

But I suppose it's the kind of move the Packers have to make - one they could have made a couple years ago by keeping Kumerow around. I don't like it - so now you're a player and you have to lick Karron's privates to be sure he wants you around? - but I also understand that it's a whole new world and when you are as lauded as Rodgers is, you get to swing your balls around.

And maybe it'll all work out - maybe Cobb will have a big year, be a good mentor for Amari Rodgers, and then at the end of the year Cobb can join Karron and Davante Adams somewhere else.

BTW, I did not realize that Davante Adams is already going to turn 29. Wow. I would definitely not re-sign him. Trade Karron after the season and let Adams walk, and start anew.

Again, this is not all on Aaron Rodgers. The Packer organization could likely have avoided this kerfluffle. But Rodgers is a hard guy to like.

[George Cumby]

He looks so _______________________________________.

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Complicated.

Douchey.

Ridiculous.

[NewsBruin]

Complicated.

Douchey.

Ridiculous.

I was gonna say he looks like Bono, but now it's kinda redundant.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow, ARod clearly pissed in his press conference. This is quite candid. Calling Kumerow "clearly the 2nd best receiver in camp last year", etc.

https://twitter.com/packers/status/1420430899208937472 for the video.

Very clear that this is in fact a last dance and he gone after this year.

Rodgers said there was not commitment from the #Packers to 2021. "It was more the approach, not mentioning anything beyond '21. I felt making a commitment past '21 was something we could do." Rodgers said there was a way to structure a deal that wouldn't crush the Packers' cap.

Very clear the context we received was from Packers PR. Answer is probably grey.

Honestly, I think the points he raises are totally valid. I am nodding along with ARod on this one. He clearly comes off looking better because he is frankly right about these things. That said - this season is going to be a shit show and I highly doubt they win the super bowl. Sometimes the candid truth is rude as fuck and insulting to your teammates. Definitely gonna be a rift.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

APB you'll be the 1st to start the GOAT love thread in 2 years popping off about his amazing kung fu, go frogskin yourself

😂

[Anti-Polar Bear]

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Sophisticated.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Honestly, I think the points he raises are totally valid. I am nodding along with ARod on this one. He clearly comes off looking better because he is frankly right about these things.

Many of us have worked at jobs where we have a better idea of the details of the operation than the boss.
I think Rodgers is very smart, close to the action, and might very well make some better decisions than the GM.

It doesn't matter. He is not King Packer. All he should do is keep management informed of his opinions. It is not their job to "respect" Aaron by agreeing with him.

I was a huge fan of AR because of his intelligence and competitiveness. I strongly wanted Packers to accommodate him to facilitate him sticking around a few more years. Instead they accommodate him to leave. I'm in "fuck that guy" camp now. I am a scorned lover.

[RashanGary]

I understand Rodgers griping when he thinks management is messing up. What makes it a little tougher is that the things he bitches about just look like he’s wrong. Kumerow is obviously a JAG. Keeping him would have been stupid. But Rodgers wants to be consulted. Shouldn’t all the players be consulted then? Why is Rodgers the only player who should have input? Shouldn’t the WRs get to pick the backup QB and the ILBs get to choose DL? Or is it every other players job to accept decisions and Rodgers job to make the decisions. I don’t know, honestly, I think management is doing mostly right. I don’t think we’re looking at bad guys who are in over their head in the front office. That happens all the time in the work world, but I don’t think it’s the case here.

[hoosier]

Even if a player did have a better take than management on "the details of the operation"--and I am not sure how we could test that in real life--there is still the fact that players are going to be in it for themselves and invested in winning in the present. Management, meanwhile, is at least in principle more invested in the long term health of the organization. Case in point: let's say Kumerow really was more qualified than one or more of the guys who made the roster last fall, but his ceiling is lower than the guys they kept. Who do you keep? We're talking about bottom of the roster guys: do you want the guy who's marginally better now or the guy who has a chance, even if it's just a remote one, of turning into something more than a marginal player? And now, looking back at the year Kumerow had last year compared to MVS and Lazard, what are we to make of this claim about Kumerow being second best player in that group?

[RashanGary]

Even if a player did have a better take than management on "the details of the operation"--and I am not sure how we could test that in real life--there is still the fact that players are going to be in it for themselves and invested in winning in the present. Management, meanwhile, is at least in principle more invested in the long term health of the organization. Case in point: let's say Kumerow really was more qualified than one or more of the guys who made the roster last fall, but his ceiling is lower than the guys they kept. Who do you keep? We're talking about bottom of the roster guys: do you want the guy who's marginally better now or the guy who has a chance, even if it's just a remote one, of turning into something more than a marginal player? And now, looking back at the year Kumerow had last year compared to MVS and Lazard, what are we to make of this claim about Kumerow being second best player in that group?

This is kind of it. Rodgers is saying he knows better but at a glance it sure seems like he might be over valuing his own opinion.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I understand Rodgers griping when he thinks management is messing up. What makes it a little tougher is that the things he bitches about just look like he’s wrong. Kumerow is obviously a JAG. Keeping him would have been stupid. But Rodgers wants to be consulted. Shouldn’t all the players be consulted then? Why is Rodgers the only player who should have input? Shouldn’t the WRs get to pick the backup QB and the ILBs get to choose DL? Or is it every other players job to accept decisions and Rodgers job to make the decisions. I don’t know, honestly, I think management is doing mostly right. I don’t think we’re looking at bad guys who are in over their head in the front office. That happens all the time in the work world, but I don’t think it’s the case here.

Brady plays GM all the time. Ariens is a no nonsense coach. Yet, controversial players like Brown, Suh and Fournette are Bucs. Brady’s fingerprint was all over those signings. Hell, Brady once traded away Garoppolo.

12’s 6 rings short of Brady, but after so many years of carrying the Packers on his back, 12 oughtta have earned the rights to play GM.

[RashanGary]

Brady plays GM all the time. Ariens is a no nonsense coach. Yet, controversial players like Brown, Suh and Fournette are Bucs. Brady’s fingerprint was all over those signings. Hell, Brady once traded away Garoppolo.

12’s 6 rings short of Brady, but after so many years of carry the Packers on his back, 12 oughtta have earned the rights to play GM.

I don’t know. I think the GM is doing a good job. It's hard to say who's right, but the kumerow thing is a bad look for 12.

[Zool]

We'll never know what was actually said about some of the things, but I'm (begrudgingly) on Karrons side when he talks about at least coming to him to talk about cutting a WR. Kumerow is probably on par with Malik Taylor, so what are you gaining by keeping Taylor? They definitely fucked up with Woodson, but they were right on the money with Nelson.

I wonder if he's right that they literally don't even try to use him to recruit FAs? If so, Murphy and Gute should be fired today. He is the second or top reason FAs would go to GB. The other is money.