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    AR will be back it sounds like and with DA wanting QB money and ZS mad about his deal the window is closed after this year unless AR(wr) and Love are good
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
    AR will be back it sounds like and with DA wanting QB money and ZS mad about his deal the window is closed after this year unless AR(wr) and Love are good
    adams wants current WR money

    z is gone next year unless they can come up with a new deal. that "restructure" of his contract made next years cap number almost 30 million

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    • #3
      DeAndre Hopkins contract really messed things up. I think he signed for $5m/year more than the highest paid WR (Julio Jones) at the time. That contract was pretty ridiculous. I'm not sure if paying $27M/year for a WR is a good use of resources. It's a shitty situation. I'm guessing the Packers are willing to pay more than the Julio Jones contract, but not the Hopkins contract.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #4
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
        DeAndre Hopkins contract really messed things up. I think he signed for $5m/year more than the highest paid WR (Julio Jones) at the time. That contract was pretty ridiculous. I'm not sure if paying $27M/year for a WR is a good use of resources. It's a shitty situation. I'm guessing the Packers are willing to pay more than the Julio Jones contract, but not the Hopkins contract.
        that number is very misleading, i don't know why the media types keep saying it. and why spotrac and over the cap don't fix it

        he signed a two year extension, he is still under contract for 4 more years

        including last year when he signed the deal. only 1 year will he actually make more then 27 million, that was last year with the signing bonus. he got 29 million in cash last year. the next highest cash year is 19.4 million

        he only has one season out of the 4 or 5 that actually goes over 27 million, and thats just barely

        no matter how much funny math you use, you just can't can't come up with anything close to the 27 million a year guys and sites are saying he makes

        his actual average cash number is closer to 20.8 million per years, around 25 million if you really do some shady math and count the signing bonus, but not during the year he received it and only count it has a 4 year deal

        his average cap number is either around 18 million or 23.5 million a year if you do the 4 year trick here

        point is, he's not making 27 million a year

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        • #5
          It was a two year extension for over $27M/year with $42M guaranteed ($38M which has already been paid out)? I guess I don't understand why it's misleading. You don't factor in the existing contract when you determine how much value the extension is worth.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #6
            i don't get why you would only count years 4 and 5 when you give half the money out in year 1

            and the team can easily cut him after year 3, meaning he might not even see those 2 new years

            this is a very clear case of a funny money deal

            if you are on a 3 year 5 million dollar deal, then sign a 2 year extension with 50 million in extra money. you have a contract for 5 years worth 55 million. you are not on a 5 year deal worth 25 million a year, you are on a 5 year deal worth 11 million a year.

            your average money per year is 11 million a year, not 25

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            • #7
              I kinds of think the Packers and Devante agree on a deal

              Would Adams really let this opporunity expire ? Torn ACL ? Major Injury.

              It would seem like Adams should take the money. I think this is a negotiating ploy and I think this gets done before the game 4 is completed
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                I kinds of think the Packers and Devante agree on a deal

                Would Adams really let this opporunity expire ? Torn ACL ? Major Injury.

                It would seem like Adams should take the money. I think this is a negotiating ploy and I think this gets done before the game 4 is completed
                Lots of smoke.....always. But yeah. The bottom line is guaranteed money hedging against injury.

                This is why Adams wants a deal now.

                Interesting to see what happens. The cap should go way up next year based on GB's financials, which is the real annual news from GB's shareholders meeting.

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                • #9
                  He's here!

                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Here's what I think: this really is the last dance for the dynamic duo of Rodgers and Adams in Green Bay.

                    This agreement between Rodgers and the Packers benefits both sides - Rodgers has found a way to get out after this year, and the Packers can get something in return.

                    It makes no sense, therefore, to sign Davante Adams to some mega contract when you have Jaire Alexander and Elgton Jenkins waiting in the wings and the Packers already in deep cap doodoo after this season. Why would you sign Adams when he'll be 28 or 29 by the time Love comes into his own - if he ever does? Time to find another young wide receiver to develop for Love. Harv is right - signing Adams is a poor use of resources, as after the next two seasons he'll be 29 and that's the beginning of the downhill slide for wide receivers.

                    There would be no way, despite the fantasies of those of you like Tank, to "cook the cap" and keep Rodgers AND Adams AND sign Alexander and Jenkins.

                    Nope, it's time to hit the re-set button. I'm glad it worked out this way. Having Rodgers' drama recurring, as it surely would, and dedicating so much of the cap to one Princess Bride for the next five years (during which, despite what Tex wishes, Rodgers will lose his legs - he already has begun) will not allow the Packers to move forward.

                    And I am heartily sick of Aaron Rodgers and his passsive-agressive circus. I don't think he was all in the wrong - the Packers effed this up royally - but I am tired of Rodgers's act.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Why would you sign Adams when he'll be 28 or 29 by the time Love comes into his own - if he ever does?
                      agree with you except Adams is already 29 in December.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        agree with you except Adams is already 29 in December.
                        And it's Tex, not Tank, who thinks you can just continually cook the cap. Tex's cap is already mushier than a pot full of peas cooked in England.

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                        • #13
                          We are in a strong cap position when Diva is traded away aren't we?
                          Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                          • #14
                            Cap should go way up as I read the GB financials. That's why all the teams are pushing out.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              He's here!

                              In his private plane, no less.
                              There’s a short clip of him arriving at Lambeau this morning, he looks like a douche.

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