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  • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
    I don't quite understand what happened to our love of Tonyan. That guy was good, really good. He rarely dropped a ball, and he got open a lot. He wasn't a great blocker, but he was getting better.

    And I can't imagine the team wouldn't be able to bring him back on a one-year "prove it" deal, since he got hurt. He'd be ready to go by mid-season, I would think. Between him and Deguara and Daffney and Lewis, you've got enough to hold down the fort. IF they want to draft a TE in the fourth or fifth rounds to compete, fine. But why is everyone thinking TE is such a need, when Tonyan can probably be had pretty cheap and has shown he's got the goods?
    I'd love to see that, and go and get a guy like OJ Howard. Howard will probably be cheap since he is super talented (#3 draft pick after all) but also had a ton of problems making plays, etc in Tampa. I know nothing of his off-the-field stuff, so maybe he has a ton of baggage and in that case I wouldn't be interested.

    They just need athletic weapons for Aaron. I agree they have some but they could potentially have more. More is better than fewer.

    This was an interesting read about how the Packers can totally cook the cap and make everything happen while chopping 90M off of it. Honestly, most of the things here seem reasonable to me. But I guess I'm not sure if that puts them WAY over next year. As long as they can hang on a bit for next year and get to 2024 and the cap explosion, I think they'll be okay.

    Over the next month, the Green Bay Packers will attempt to achieve the delicate balance between keeping a talented roster intact and shaving tens of millions of dollars worth of commitments off of the salary cap. It won't be easy. But it's not impossible. The Packers…

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    • The Packers Wire

      Mike Smith, the Packers OLBs coach since 2019, is leaving the team to pursue other opportunities, per Rob Demovsky of ESPN.
      That's a big loss. He had a lot to do with Gary's development. Probably not a vacancy MLF thought he would have to fill.

      Edit:

      Rob Demovsky
      @RobDemovsky
      One more coaching staff note: OLB coach Mike Smith is leaving the Packers to pursue other opportunities, a source said.

      This did not come out of the blue and has been in discussion for a while, per the source. The team agreed to let him do that and will have a new OLB coach.
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      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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      • The Green Bay Packers have hired Jason Rebrovich as outside linebackers coach. Head Coach Matt LaFleur made the announcement Friday.

        Rebrovich (reb-row-vitch) brings 20 years of coaching experience to the Packers, including eight seasons in the NFL with the Buffalo Bills (2013-16) and the Jacksonville Jaguars (2017-20). He most recently served as Jacksonville's defensive line coach in 2019-20.
        Don't really know anything about him. He would have been with Hackett for 2 years in Jacksonville, so maybe that's how MLF would have known about him.

        Wouldn't be surprised if Mike Smith ends up in Minnesota. He was close with Pettine and may not have been thrilled with the firing of Pettine.
        I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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        • Sounds like Z was cut. He did the whole cryptic tweet thing then removed any mention of Packers from all of his social media. Kinda wonder why nobody discusses trading him. He was an all-pro 2x in a row, should be able to get _some_ value for him.

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          • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
            Sounds like Z was cut. He did the whole cryptic tweet thing then removed any mention of Packers from all of his social media. Kinda wonder why nobody discusses trading him. He was an all-pro 2x in a row, should be able to get _some_ value for him.
            14.5 million base salary and a bad back. Nobody is going to trade for him when they know Packers will cut him.
            I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • Is it just me, or is MLF raiding the Jacksonville Jags coaching staff heavily?

              Isn't it supposed to work the other way around? Where the losing team poaches the coaches from a winning team?

              As for Dr. Z, it was a great run. I enjoyed him, and I'm sorry he got hurt.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • Over the next month, the Green Bay Packers will attempt to achieve the delicate balance between keeping a talented roster intact and shaving tens of millions of dollars worth of commitments off of the salary cap. It won't be easy. But it's not impossible. The Packers…


                Yes please.

                I'm skeptical but....
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                • Excellent Article - pretty much what I've been saying all along but with more detail. I also saw a YouTube video by a guy name Basaraki saying very similar stuff. It obviously can be done. It obviously should be done, and it obviously will be done.
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                  • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    Is it just me, or is MLF raiding the Jacksonville Jags coaching staff heavily?

                    Isn't it supposed to work the other way around? Where the losing team poaches the coaches from a winning team?

                    As for Dr. Z, it was a great run. I enjoyed him, and I'm sorry he got hurt.
                    Maybe teams like the Jags are the Jags because they make the wrong decisions. Rebrovich was let go when the Jags hired Urban Mayer. Jags fired Nathaniel Hackett mid-2018. Jags have been 13-42 since then. Belichick was fired by the Browns before getting another chance with the Patriots.
                    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • I'm just wondering, Joe. Your point is well-taken. I don't keep up as much as you do, so I think you are probably correct.

                      As for the Packers and offseason, IF they end up trading Rodgers (or he retires, God forbid - worst case scenario), and not re-signing Adams, do they start cutting expensive players left and right and starting over, or do they, say, keep Turner, try to re-sign MVS and Prestone Smith and maybe Campbell, and try to be competetive next year, fielding a team with better ST and a good defense, with a good offensive line, then run a lot while Love manages things?
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        I'm just wondering, Joe. Your point is well-taken. I don't keep up as much as you do, so I think you are probably correct.

                        As for the Packers and offseason, IF they end up trading Rodgers (or he retires, God forbid - worst case scenario), and not re-signing Adams, do they start cutting expensive players left and right and starting over, or do they, say, keep Turner, try to re-sign MVS and Prestone Smith and maybe Campbell, and try to be competetive next year, fielding a team with better ST and a good defense, with a good offensive line, then run a lot while Love manages things?
                        They don't start over. They try to retain as many of their core players as possible. Frankly, if they trade Rodgers, that becomes easier to do. I don't buy the common assumption that Adams only stays if Rodgers stays. Again, the Packers do not just start over. That, I am sure is not a part of any of their plans.
                        I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          They don't start over. They try to retain as many of their core players as possible. Frankly, if they trade Rodgers, that becomes easier to do. I don't buy the common assumption that Adams only stays if Rodgers stays. Again, the Packers do not just start over. That, I am sure is not a part of any of their plans.
                          Well, in some regards, if Rodgers goes they ARE starting over, even if they keep most of the rest of the team. But I can see the thinking of trying to keep most of the players if Rodgers goes, and seeing if the defense/improved ST, and running game can carry the team to a 9-8 record while Love acclimates. But I don't see Adams coming back if Rodgers goes.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Well, in some regards, if Rodgers goes they ARE starting over, even if they keep most of the rest of the team. But I can see the thinking of trying to keep most of the players if Rodgers goes, and seeing if the defense/improved ST, and running game can carry the team to a 9-8 record while Love acclimates. But I don't see Adams coming back if Rodgers goes.

                            My guess is Rodgers comes back. Will be a interesting offseason. Watched all the Vikings games last year but to be honest, I really didn't give a fuck. Been mainly watching the English Premier League hoping the lads at Newcastle stay up.

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                            • Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                              My guess is Rodgers comes back. Will be a interesting offseason. Watched all the Vikings games last year but to be honest, I really didn't give a fuck. Been mainly watching the English Premier League hoping the lads at Newcastle stay up.
                              fuck newcastle

                              GO LEEDS!!!!!!

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                              • Originally posted by red View Post
                                fuck newcastle

                                GO LEEDS!!!!!!
                                I echo Red's comments on Newcastle but respectfully disagree regarding Leeds. It's Hammers or nothing my fine footballer friends. Almost Champions League Baby!
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