What happens if Rodgers wants to stay but management wants to move on??

[King Friday]

I say again, are you really that stupid/ignorant about how the cap works?

Let me do math for you Tex

If someone has an expiring contract, they currently count $0 against next year's cap. That means they aren't even part of the $40M+ gap yet.

If you sign Adams to a bargain basement $10M per year contract, our cap situation just got $10M worse, not better.

[run pMc]

Not so sure I agree in this garbage draft.

True. I'd want a 1st rounder in a future draft in addition to the upcoming one; this is a bad draft for QB and they'll want an insurance pick in case the Jordan Love Experiment combusts horribly.
Getting Jeudy would be ok only bc if you're losing Rodgers you're losing Adams. People like him, scouts like him, but Jeudy has 90 catches in 26 games (3.5 per), not exactly dominating stuff. You're banking on him improving a lot; you hope to be right -- those are "1st two seasons of Davante" numbers.

[run pMc]

Adams wants DeAndre Hopkins money. As good as Adams is, I have a hard time believing they'll pay that without doing some funny money.
Re: that funny money, you can only push so much out so far and then you have the New Orleans Saints cap situation.

GB is nearing that now, and thus a bloodletting will be needed. I honestly think both Smiths are gone, which gets them a chunk of the way back. I think they will try to work something out with Rodgers -- he's should be getting MVP#4, and you don't let those guys walk -- but if it happens then it opens up possibilities, mostly on defense I think. Jaire will get extended which brings his number down, but it opens up the likelihood of keeping Campbell or Douglas. On offense, they still have Adams, MVS, Cobb, Tonyan leaving, so that's an issue.

I wonder about redoing Bahk's deal; he's done nothing but sit since he signed and they could play Njiman (or Turner or Jenkins or possibly a draft pick) out there.

And yes, expiring deals do not count towards the cap, and you can't trade those players either lol.

[texaspackerbacker]

Some dumbasses really can't seem to comprehend, you can sign somebody for a humongous contract. and end up with a rock bottom cap number for at least a year or two.

Clearly, Z. Smith will be gone, and that will be apparently saves $20+ million by itself on the cap. I absolutely don't anticipate much of anybody else of substance being gone, though.

Talk about Rodgers being gone and the team still being good is just plain stupid.

[Bretsky]

Some dumbasses really can't seem to comprehend, you can sign somebody for a humongous contract. and end up with a rock bottom cap number for at least a year or two.

Clearly, Z. Smith will be gone, and that will be apparently saves $20+ million by itself on the cap. I absolutely don't anticipate much of anybody else of substance being gone, though.

Talk about Rodgers being gone and the team still being good is just plain stupid.

Save this one too; they are going to lose a lot more players than Z

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, save it. For the record, though, I did say anybody worth keeping. I'm hoping myself that Crosby retires, for example, and we pick up a 5th rounder like the Bengal guy. Out of a 53 man roster, of course we will turn over a few, but nobody of substance.

[RashanGary]

It sounds like the Packers really want Rodgers back. I think they’re gonna do everything they can to keep most of the band together. I’m not exactly sure what that will look like but with Gary playing so well I’m sure we’ll be without one of the smiths.

Let’s hope for a good draft and some development from the younger guys.

[Fritz]

So much of the postseason seems to depend on a variety of factors, not the least of which is luck. But this is what, the third year in a row that the Packers have been bounced, and the last two when they supposedly were favorites?

Last year's loss, and even moreso this year's loss, do not seem like the result of some luck. They demonstrated that they had superb talent in racking up those regular season records, but they didn't get beat in the playoffs the last three years because they got some bad breaks. They just have played poorly. So do we really want to try to wind up that doll again and have another season like this past one? And even that is doubtful.

Can you get this team, with its cap situation and as currently constructed, over the hump? This season's team was probably the best I've seen in many years. Yet they still looked like the same ol' same ol' thing in the playoffs. Two years ago it was the defense. Last year it was . . . ? This year it was the special teams. But in at least the last two years, your MVP QB did nothing - nothing - in the last quarter to get his team over the hump. Nothing.

[Fritz]

So much of the postseason seems to depend on a variety of factors, not the least of which is luck. But this is what, the third year in a row that the Packers have been bounced, and the last two when they supposedly were favorites?

Last year's loss, and even moreso this year's loss, do not seem like the result of some luck. They demonstrated that they had superb talent in racking up those regular season records, but they didn't get beat in the playoffs the last three years because they got some bad breaks. They just have played poorly. So do we really want to try to wind up that doll again and have another season like this past one? And even that is doubtful.

Can you get this team, with its cap situation and as currently constructed, over the hump? This season's team was probably the best I've seen in many years. Yet they still looked like the same ol' same ol' thing in the playoffs. Two years ago it was the defense. Last year it was . . . ? This year it was the special teams. But in at least the last two years, your MVP QB did nothing - nothing - in the last quarter to get his team over the hump. Nothing.

I just looked it up - Rodgers's career passer rating in the playoffs is 100.5.

[George Cumby]

So much of the postseason seems to depend on a variety of factors, not the least of which is luck. But this is what, the third year in a row that the Packers have been bounced, and the last two when they supposedly were favorites?


Can you get this team, with its cap situation and as currently constructed, over the hump? This season's team was probably the best I've seen in many years. Yet they still looked like the same ol' same ol' thing in the playoffs. Two years ago it was the defense. Last year it was . . . ? This year it was the special teams. But in at least the last two years, your MVP QB did nothing - nothing - in the last quarter to get his team over the hump. Nothing.

IMO both MLF and Rodgers are on the hook for this underperformance in the biggest games.

For whatever reason, they CONSISTENTLY fail when the bright lights are on and neither seems to be improving in that regard.

Again, I don't claim to know what the correct course of action is, but they seem to keep repeating the same mistakes..........

[Joemailman]

This one feel different to me because I think the Packers lost to an inferior team. Packers were not as good as the 49ers in 2019. Period. Packers could have played the 49ers 5 times in 2019 and I think they would have lost all 5. I thought they had a good chance against the Bucs in 2020, but it's not like that was a real upset. Bucs were very good, and with the stands mostly empty, there wasn't that much of a home field advantage. But they had everything going for them this time and why they didn't get it done is a bigger question this year than it was the previous 2 years.

[George Cumby]

Agree on the '19 Niners. The Packers got straight up bullied.

[texaspackerbacker]

It sounds like the Packers really want Rodgers back. I think they’re gonna do everything they can to keep most of the band together. I’m not exactly sure what that will look like but with Gary playing so well I’m sure we’ll be without one of the smiths.

Let’s hope for a good draft and some development from the younger guys.

Yes, it does sound like that, LaFleur anyway. And as I have said over and over, we certainly DO have the capability to keep him AND anybody else worth keeping - when the media idiot talked about rebuilding, LaFleur shot that idea down big time. There's a slim slim chance Rodgers is burnt out and seriously wants to retire, but I really doubt that.

Bretsky, I'll give you another post to save hahahaha. Mark my words, Rodgers, Adams, Tonyan, MVS, and Jaire will be back for sure, and a strong probably for Campbell and Douglas, and a weak probably for Cobb at reduced pay and P. Smith. Who does that leave that won't be back? Z. Smith, probably Mercilus, and I hope Crosby.

As for those team comparisons, true, the Niners weren't as good as in '19, mainly because of their running game being worse, but they were better than their record this year showed. I wouldn't rule out this being another season where the team that knocks the Packers out goes all the way and wins the SB.

[Teamcheez1]

Keeping Rodgers would certainly make this team competitive for next year. I just don’t have any reason to believe our season will end any differently if he stays. With Love, I have no expectation of making the playoffs; with Rodgers, I have no expectation of winning in the playoffs.

[George Cumby]

Keeping Rodgers would certainly make this team competitive for next year. I just don’t have any reason to believe our season will end any differently if he stays. With Love, I have no expectation of making the playoffs; with Rodgers, I have no expectation of winning in the playoffs.

Between Scylla and Charybdis.