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    I did my initial look at the QB prospects. This QB class really is not very good. Kenny Pickett is probably the safe, Derek Carr-type pick. Even he has question marks with his tiny hands. I want to like others, but I'm just not seeing it. Malik Willis is like a Trey Lance-lite, but he's 6'0" instead of 6'4", doesn't have the arm strength Lance has (Lance has one of the strongest arms in the NFL), and is even less accurate. Not a fan of Corrall. Strong is a statue. I'm not feeling Ridder. Shades of Deshone Kizer. I sort of like Howell in the 2nd or 3rd round. About the only late guy that caught my eye is Chase Garbers of Cal. I hope he gets an invite to the combine. E.J. Perry sounds intriguing, but there's like no tape on him--except a 4 minute highlight video.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

  • #2
    If we lose12 Howell in the 2nd is a great start to back up love for a couple years. As Gumby and others have mentioned wolf got a qb every year. We should as well. We have been very lucky i. Terms of low injuries to our starting an for 3 decades. That is not normal (I think).
    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

    George Orwell

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    • #3
      Howell is on the short side also at a shade under 6'1" and I'm not convinced he's any better than Jordan Love. Just my opinion, but he doesn't wow me as a pro prospect. Pass and wait for the 2023 draft for QB. Agree this draft class is not good at QB.

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      • #4
        Almost every QB in this draft is short. It’s the shortest class I’ve ever seen.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          Almost every QB in this draft is short. It’s the shortest class I’ve ever seen.
          I noticed that too. Lots of guys 6-1 or shorter. Bad year for teams drafting early who really need a QB. Not sure there's anybody worth taking in top 16.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #6
            Sell JLo to the highest suitor I kid I kid (kinda)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
              If we lose12 Howell in the 2nd is a great start to back up love for a couple years. As Gumby and others have mentioned wolf got a qb every year. We should as well. We have been very lucky i. Terms of low injuries to our starting an for 3 decades. That is not normal (I think).
              Wolf did draft QB's a lot, but to be clear, they were often late-round picks. A guy named Ronnie McAda from Army, I think, in the seventh round. Hasselback was a sixth-rounder. Brunell, fifth round. Aaron Brooks, fourth. Ty Detmer.

              Of those, Brunell and Hasselbeck became good NFL QB's, and if I recall correctly, he was able to trade Brooks to New Orleans.

              So it might be good to draft QB's every year, but maybe you don't have to look in the first or second round or even the third.

              But I wonder if the position has changed and if teams are so much sharper now that the likelihood of a Hasselbeck in the sixth has been diminished.

              Still, an impressive list.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                2 WRs in the top 4 rounds and a TE in the 5th.
                Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                • #9
                  NFL Combine invitees by position

                  Quarterbacks

                  Jack Coan, Notre Dame
                  Matt Corral, Mississippi
                  Dustin Crum, Kent State
                  Kaleb Eleby, Western Michigan
                  Sam Howell, North Carolina
                  Cole Kelley, Southeastern Louisiana
                  D'Eriq King, Miami
                  EJ Perry, Brown
                  Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh
                  Brock Purdy, Iowa State
                  Desmond Ridder, Cincinnati
                  Carson Strong, Nevada
                  Skylar Thompson, Kansas State
                  Malik Willis, Liberty
                  Bailey Zappe, Western Kentucky

                  Running backs

                  Tyler Allgeier, BYU
                  Tyler Badie, Missouri
                  Greg Bell, San Diego State
                  Max Borghi, Washington State
                  Kennedy Brooks, Oklahoma
                  Leddie Brown, West Virginia
                  Ty Chandler, North Carolina
                  Snoop Conner, Mississippi
                  James Cook, Georgia
                  Jashaun Corbin, Florida State
                  Ty Davis-Price, LSU
                  Jerrion Ealy, Mississippi
                  Trestan Ebner, Baylor
                  Jerome Ford, Cincinnati
                  Tyler Goodson, Iowa
                  Breece Hall, Iowa State
                  Kevin Harris, South Carolina
                  Hassan Haskins, Michigan
                  Keaontay Ingram, USC
                  Bam Knight, N.C. State
                  Sincere McCormick, UTSA
                  Isaih Pacheco, Rutgers
                  Dameon Pierce, Florida
                  D'vonte Price, Florida International
                  Ronnie Rivers, Fresno State
                  Brian Robinson, Alabama
                  Abram Smith, Baylor
                  Isaiah Spiller, Texas A&M
                  Pierre Strong, South Dakota State
                  CJ Verdell, Oregon
                  Kenny Walker III, Michigan State
                  Jaylen Warren, Oklahoma State
                  Rachaad White, Arizona State
                  Zamir White, Georgia
                  ZaQuandre White, South Carolina
                  Kyren Williams, Notre Dame

                  Wide receivers

                  Calvin Austin, Memphis
                  Kevin Austin Jr., Notre Dame
                  David Bell, Purdue
                  Slade Bolden, Alabama
                  Treylon Burks, Arkansas
                  Dai'Jean Dixon, Nicholls State
                  Jahan Dotson, Penn State
                  Romeo Doubs, Nevada
                  Dontario Drummond, Mississippi
                  Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
                  Ty Fryfogle, Indiana
                  Danny Gray, SMU
                  Johnny Johnson III, Oregon
                  Josh Johnson, Tulsa
                  Velus Jones, Tennessee
                  Drake London, USC
                  Bo Melton, Rutgers
                  John Metchie, Alabama
                  Skyy Moore, Western Michigan
                  Jalen Nailor, Michigan State
                  Chris Olave, Ohio State
                  Kyle Philips, UCLA
                  George Pickens, Georgia
                  Alec Pierce, Cincinnati
                  Makai Polk, Mississippi State
                  Charleston Rambo, Miami
                  Reggie Roberson Jr., SMU
                  Wan'Dale Robinson, Kentucky
                  Justyn Ross, Clemson
                  Braylon Sanders, Mississippi
                  Khalil Shakir, Boise State
                  Tyquan Thornton, Baylor
                  Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama
                  Tré Turner, Virginia Tech
                  Christian Watson, North Dakota State
                  Isaiah Weston, Northern Iowa
                  Devon Williams, Oregon
                  Jameson Williams, Alabama
                  Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
                  Mike Woods, Oklahoma

                  Tight ends

                  Austin Allen, Nebraska
                  Chase Allen, Iowa State
                  Daniel Bellinger, San Diego State
                  Grant Calcattera, SMU
                  Greg Dulcich, UCLA
                  Jake Ferguson, Wisconsin
                  Jeremiah Hall, Oklahoma
                  Peyton Hendershot, Indiana
                  Connor Heyward, Michigan State
                  Curtis Hodges, Arizona State
                  Charlie Kolar, Iowa State
                  Isaiah Likely, Coastal Carolina
                  Trey McBride, Colorado State
                  James Mitchell, Virginia Tech
                  Chig Okonkwo, Maryland
                  Cade Otton, Washington
                  Teagan Quitoriano, Oregon State
                  Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State
                  Cole Turner, Nevada
                  Jelani Woods, Virginia
                  Jalen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

                  Offensive linemen

                  Blaise Andries, Minnesota
                  Ben Brown, Mississippi
                  Logan Bruss, Wisconsin
                  Spencer Burford, UTSA
                  Ja'Tyre Carter, Southern
                  Charles Cross, Mississippi State
                  Myron Cunningham, Arkansas
                  Dawson Deaton, Texas Tech
                  Austin Deculus, LSU
                  Kellen Diesch, Arizona State
                  Bill Dunkle, San Diego State
                  Ickey Ekwonu, N.C. State
                  Obinna Eze, TCU
                  Joshua Ezeudu, North Carolina
                  Daniel Faalele, Minnesota
                  Luke Fortner, Kentucky
                  Luke Goedeke, Central Michigan
                  Kenyon Green, Texas A&M
                  Marquis Hayes, Oklahoma
                  Chasen Hines, LSU
                  Ed Ingram, LSU
                  Zion Johnson, Boston College
                  Braxton Jones, Southern Utah
                  Cam Jurgens, Nebraska
                  Darian Kinnard, Kentucky
                  Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa
                  Alec Lindstrom, Boston College
                  Vederian Lowe, Illinois
                  Abraham Lucas, Washington State
                  Cade Mays, Tennessee
                  Marcus McKethan, North Carolina
                  Max Mitchell, Louisiana
                  Thayer Munford Jr., Ohio State
                  Evan Neal, Alabama
                  Dylan Parham, Memphis
                  Chris Paul, Tulsa
                  Trevor Penning, Northern Iowa
                  Nick Petit-Frere, Ohio State
                  Bernhard Raimann, Central Michigan
                  Sean Rhyan, UCLA
                  Tyrese Robinson, Oklahoma
                  Dare Rosenthal, Kentucky
                  Andrew Rupcich, Culver-Stockton
                  Jamaree Salyer, Georgia
                  Justin Shaffer, Georgia
                  Lecitus Smith, Virginia Tech
                  Tyler Smith, Tulsa
                  Cole Strange, Tennessee-Chattanooga
                  Andrew Stueber, Michigan
                  Luke Tenuta, Virginia Tech
                  Zach Thomas, San Diego State
                  Zach Tom, Wake Forest
                  Cordell Volson, North Dakota State
                  Matt Waletzko, North Dakota
                  Rasheed Walker, Penn State
                  Luke Wattenberg, Washington
                  Dohnovan West, Arizona State
                  Nick Zakelj, Fordham
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Defensive linemen

                    Amaré Barno, Virginia Tech
                    Nik Bonitto, Oklahoma
                    Thomas Booker, Stanford
                    Matthew Butler, Tennessee
                    Zach Carter, Florida
                    Micheal Clemons, Texas A&M
                    DJ Davidson, Arizona State
                    Jordan Davis, Georgia
                    Kalia Davis, UCF
                    Arnold Ebiketie, Penn State
                    Noah Elliss, Idaho
                    Kingsley Enagbare, South Carolina
                    Neil Farrell, LSU
                    Jonathan Ford, Miami
                    Haskell Garrett, Ohio State
                    Jeffrey Gunter, Coastal Carolina
                    Logan Hall, Houston
                    Chris Hinton, Michigan
                    Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan
                    Jordan Jackson, Air Force
                    Tyree Johnson, Texas A&M
                    Travis Jones, Connecticut
                    George Karlaftis, Purdue
                    DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M
                    Jesse Luketa, Penn State
                    DeAngelo Malone, Western Kentucky
                    Phidarian Mathis, Alabama
                    Marquan McCall, Kentucky
                    Otito Ogbonnia, UCLA
                    David Ojabo, Michigan
                    Esezi Otomewo, Minnesota
                    Joshua Paschal, Kentucky
                    Jayden Peevy, Texas A&M
                    LaBryan Ray, Alabama
                    John Ridgeway, Arkansas
                    Dominique Robinson, Miami (Ohio)
                    Myjai Sanders, Cincinnati
                    Tyreke Smith, Ohio State
                    Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa, Notre Dame
                    Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon
                    Cameron Thomas, San Diego State
                    Isaiah Thomas, Oklahoma
                    Eyioma Uwazurike, Iowa State
                    Travon Walker, Georgia
                    Sam Williams, Mississippi
                    Perrion Winfrey, Oklahoma
                    Alex Wright, UAB
                    Devonte Wyatt, Georgia

                    Linebackers

                    Christopher Allen, Alabama
                    Troy Andersen, Montana State
                    Brian Asamoah, Oklahoma
                    Darrian Beavers, Cincinnati
                    Terrel Bernard, Baylor
                    Darien Butler, Arizona State
                    Chance Campbell, Mississippi
                    Leo Chenal, Wisconsin
                    Damone Clark, LSU
                    Nakobe Dean, Georgia
                    JoJo Domann, Nebraska
                    Jeremiah Gemmel, North Carolina
                    Isaiah Graham-Mobley, Boston College
                    Jake Hansen, Illinois
                    Aaron Hansford, Texas A&M
                    Christian Harris, Alabama
                    D'Marco Jackson, Appalachian State
                    Drake Jackson, USC
                    Jermaine Johnson II, Florida State
                    Nate Landman, Colorado
                    Devin Lloyd, Utah
                    Boye Mafe, Minnesota
                    Zakoby McClain, Auburn
                    Micah McFadden, Indiana
                    Jeremiah Moon, Florida
                    Chad Muma, Wyoming
                    Malcolm Rodriguez, Oklahoma State
                    Mike Rose, Iowa State
                    Josh Ross, Michigan
                    Jack Sanborn, Wisconsin
                    Nephi Sewell, Utah
                    Brandon Smith, Penn State
                    Baylon Spector, Clemson
                    Channing Tindall, Georgia
                    Quay Walker, Georgia
                    Tre Williams, Arkansas

                    Defensive backs

                    Tycen Anderson, Toledo
                    Jalyn Armour-Davis, Alabama
                    Kalon Barnes, Baylor
                    Markquese Bell, Florida A&M
                    Dane Belton, Iowa
                    Bubba Bolden, Miami
                    Andrew Booth, Clemson
                    Jaquan Brisker, Penn State
                    Montaric Brown, Arkansas
                    Coby Bryant, Cincinnati
                    Percy Butler, Louisiana
                    Tariq Castro-Fields, Penn State
                    Lewis Cine, Georgia
                    Qwynnterrio Cole, Louisville
                    Bryan Cook, Cincinnati
                    Yusuf Corker, Kentucky
                    Nick Cross, Maryland
                    Cobie Durant, South Carolina State
                    Kaiir Elam, Florida
                    MJ Emerson, Mississippi State
                    Akayleb Evans, Missouri
                    DaMarcus Fields, Texas Tech
                    Cordale Flott, LSU
                    Sauce Gardner, Cincinnati
                    Mario Goodrich, Clemson
                    Kyler Gordon, Washington
                    Vincent Gray, Michigan
                    Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame
                    Kolby Harvell-Peel, Oklahoma State
                    Dax Hill, Michigan
                    Joshua Jobe, Alabama
                    Jack Jones, Arizona State
                    Marcus Jones, Houston
                    Kerby Joseph, Illinois
                    Derion Kendrick, Georgia
                    Quentin Lake, UCLA
                    Chase Lucas, Arizona State
                    Damarri Mathis, Pittsburgh
                    Zyon McCollum, Sam Houston State
                    Roger McCreary, Auburn
                    Trent McDuffie, Washington
                    Verone McKinley III, Oregon
                    Smoke Monday, Auburn
                    Leon O'Neal, Texas A&M
                    Jalen Pitre, Baylor
                    Chris Steele, USC
                    Derek Stingley Jr., LSU
                    Alontae Taylor, Tennessee
                    Cam Taylor-Britt, Nebraska
                    Isaac Taylor-Stuart, USC
                    Juanyeh Thomas, Georgia Tech
                    Josh Thompson, Texas
                    Delarrin Turner-Yell, Oklahoma
                    Jermaine Waller, Virginia Tech
                    Jaylen Watson, Washington State
                    Sam Webb, Missouri Western State
                    Joshua Williams, Fayetteville State
                    Pepe Williams, Houston
                    JT Woods, Baylor
                    Tariq Woolen, UTSA
                    Mykael Wright, Oregon

                    Specialists

                    Cal Adomitis, LS, Pittsburgh
                    Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State
                    Gabe Brkic, K, Oklahoma
                    Jake Camarda, P, Georgia
                    Cameron Dicker, K, Texas
                    Trenton Gill, P, N.C. State
                    Blake Hayes, P, Illinois
                    Jordan Stout, P, Penn State
                    Cade York, K, LSU
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Wolf did draft QB's a lot, but to be clear, they were often late-round picks. A guy named Ronnie McAda from Army, I think, in the seventh round. Hasselback was a sixth-rounder. Brunell, fifth round. Aaron Brooks, fourth. Ty Detmer.

                      Of those, Brunell and Hasselbeck became good NFL QB's, and if I recall correctly, he was able to trade Brooks to New Orleans.

                      So it might be good to draft QB's every year, but maybe you don't have to look in the first or second round or even the third.

                      But I wonder if the position has changed and if teams are so much sharper now that the likelihood of a Hasselbeck in the sixth has been diminished.

                      Still, an impressive list.
                      Didn't the teams usually keep 3 QBs on the main roster most of the time in the Wolf days?

                      Since it is generally 2 active now, maybe don't draft them quite as often. Or maybe take more 6th and 7th rounders and keep them on the taxi squad.

                      Wondering if there is a late round guy out there this year that is better than Etling or Benkert.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Wolf did draft QB's a lot, but to be clear, they were often late-round picks. A guy named Ronnie McAda from Army, I think, in the seventh round. Hasselback was a sixth-rounder. Brunell, fifth round. Aaron Brooks, fourth. Ty Detmer.

                        Of those, Brunell and Hasselbeck became good NFL QB's, and if I recall correctly, he was able to trade Brooks to New Orleans.

                        So it might be good to draft QB's every year, but maybe you don't have to look in the first or second round or even the third.

                        But I wonder if the position has changed and if teams are so much sharper now that the likelihood of a Hasselbeck in the sixth has been diminished.

                        Still, an impressive list.
                        Until we are settled at qb 1 I dont think we can wait and hope for talent in late rounds. If 12 goes we need someone and love is only a 50/50 shot imo.
                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                        George Orwell

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                        • #13
                          Weak QB class and weak RB class. Before seeing what they do at the combine, I probably like Breece Hall the most. Big RB, not very explosive, has some deep speed, but kind of does everything well. Prototypical Bears RB that isn't very explosive, but is solid in all phases (Matt Forte, David Montgomery type). I like Jerome Ford a bit more than most. I like James Cook as a third down RB, but he doesn't have his brother's chops as a runner (has little power and doesn't break many tackles). I like Tyler Badie as a third down RB a bit more than most. There is some size to this RB crop, but not much speed. There were a lot of RBs invited to the combine. Around 20 RBs are drafted on average, and there were 35+ RBs invited to the combine. That tells me there are a lot of question marks at the position. I'm about halfway through those invited to the combine. No one stands out like Javonte Williams did for me last year.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #14
                            I took Draft Network's Top 100 and broke it down. Number of top 100 players at each position, and their individual big board position. WR, Edge and CB the big winners.

                            QB: (6) 20, 34, 35, 40, 42, 49

                            RB: (6) 38, 51, 76, 80, 89, 96

                            WR: (15) 13, 17, 24, 26, 27, 30, 36, 39, 52, 61, 83, 86, 93, 94, 98

                            TE: (5) 43, 57, 65, 78, 82

                            OT: (9) 4, 7, 12, 21, 28, 47, 75, 95, 99

                            IOL: (8) 10,11, 32, 50, 54, 58, 70, 73

                            IDL: (6) 14, 16, 46, 48, 62, 64

                            Edge: (16) 1, 3, 8, 15, 19, 29, 37, 44, 55, 56, 60, 63, 67, 81, 87, 91

                            LB: (10) 9, 23, 45, 59, 66, 68, 72, 74, 88, 100

                            CB: (15) 5, 6, 18, 22, 33, 41, 53, 71, 77, 79, 84, 85, 90, 92, 97

                            S: (4) 2, 25, 31, 69
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #15
                              I found a sleeper RB that I like in Ty Chandler of North Carolina. Reminds me of Elijah Mitchell.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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