Davante vs. Rookies

[Joemailman]

They need to throw the damn ball to the rookies. They need to be option 2 and 3 on the offense. You gave up a lot to get Watson, give him the ball on a route instead of being Tyler Earvin.

Doubs has been targeted more than any other receiver on the Packers. Watson hasn't been able to stay healthy long enough long enough to stay in the lineup. All those injuries have caused him to miss practice time which is a tough thing for a rookie. If Watson is going to be a bigger part of the offense, he has to be available.

[Fritz]

Agreed. I would think they'll put him on the shelf til that hammy is completely healed. But so far, the guy is the very definition of injury-prone. Missed all of camp, and misses every other game so far.

It's early, I know. I hope he gets back and stays healthy. But the early signs are not encouraging. We'll see.

[Sparkey]

Aaron hates it when rookies make mistakes running routes by breaking off an out too soon or this or that, blah blah blah. He wants them to do what he wants, which is great, except that when a young player is thinking too much about the whens and wheres and thinks about avoiding mistakes, he ends up playing slow and hesitant.

If Aaron were this great QB, he would be better off telling the guys to run the routes fast, hard and sharp, not quibble about the little shit and throw the damn ball. It may be harder on him to study the rookies tendencies and certain routes, but I'd rather see guys playing fast and loose as opposed to slow and tight.

I'm sure Rodgers dreads hitting double digit picks, so I expect him to want the "smart", slow guys to play more. Hey Aaron, be the guy who makes others better instead of the guy who expects others too make it easier for him. Be the GOAT and make chicken salad from chicken shit. Otherwise, retire and go travel the world trying to find the next great high.

[run pMc]

Davante's rookie year (2014) thru Week 5: 10 rec, 17 tgts, 90 yds, 1TD
Better WR depth back then might be a consideration, Adams was WR3 behind Jordy and Cobb.
Still - Doubs is off to a very good start.

Rodgers will have to throw more to Doubs and eventually Watson, and I think he will. He still has lapses where he locks onto receivers, and his deep throws have been off more than usual. It's possible it's age impacting his ability just as much as it's new faces. It's going to take time for this offense to get any traction, in the meantime they have to lean on the RBs.

And no, I don't think OBJ is coming to GB. Just a hunch, but I'd guess he re-signs with LAR or some AFC team like KC or BUF. GB has bigger issues than what he can solve IMO.

[red]

i think we've learned on important fact

aaron rodgers can not just make any WR better, like we've been hearing for years

[bobblehead]

i think we've learned on important fact

aaron rodgers can not just make any WR better, like we've been hearing for years

He certainly makes every WR he plays with better. He can not, however, spin straw into gold. By week 17 doubs and watson will look pretty good.

[run pMc]

Been a while, here's the season totals so far:

Davante: 57 rec, 99 tgts, 784 yds, 8 TDs
Watson: 14 rec, 22 tgts, 195 tds, 3 TDs, also has 1 rush TD
Doubs: 31 rec, 50 tgts, 314 yds, 3 TDs
Toure: 4 rec, 9 tgts, 75 yds, 1 TD

(Rookies combined: 49 rec, 81 tgts, 584 yds, 7 TDs, 1 rushing TD)

The rookies are matching Adams on TDs, but Adams is getting more recs and is soundly beating them on targets and yards. I'm not surprised tbh. If Adams was with GB they'd force feed him the ball too.
Adams is on pace for just under 1500 yards on a troubled Raiders team.

Another comment: Some of his "routes" for LVR don't even look like routes so much as "beat your guy off the line and I'll look for you across the middle". I've seen him take almost 2 seconds to get 5 yards past the LOS but beat his man...very weird and unlike pretty much every WR I've seen.

Lastly, the rookies -- and the offense -- would run better if Rodgers looked to them and if MLF ran his actual offense. That they're open has been discussed plenty already. Holding out hope Rodgers will trust them by end of season -- maybe the McCarthy bowl will be a tipping point. The rookies look like keepers to me.

[QBME]

Devante team wins - 2
Rookies team wins - 4

Admittedly, both pusillanimous, just sayin’.

[Joemailman]

NFL Rumors
@nflrums
ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the #Raiders could release QB Derek Carr after the season to avoid paying the final three years of his contract.

I would imagine this could even put Davante Adams back in play if it happens too. #RaiderNation

Raiders currently have 2nd pick in the draft, so they could be in position to draft a QB. Raiders would save about 30 million on cap by releasing or trading Carr before June 1. Trading Adams before June 1 would mean 31 million in dead cap for Raiders and increase the cap hit by 17 million. So Adams likely isn't going anywhere.

[Bretsky]

Raiders currently have 2nd pick in the draft, so they could be in position to draft a QB. Raiders would save about 30 million on cap by releasing or trading Carr before June 1. Trading Adams before June 1 would mean 31 million in dead cap for Raiders and increase the cap hit by 17 million. So Adams likely isn't going anywhere.

MY TRANSLATION

GUTEBAG SHOUDL HAVE DEMMANDED NEXT YEAR'S FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK !!!!!

[call_me_ishmael]

Didn't Carr literally get a new contract this summer?

[Joemailman]

Didn't Carr literally get a new contract this summer?

Yes, but there's not much guaranteed money, so they can get out of it.

[run pMc]

Cutting Carr after Davante left GB to play with him would be quite the kick in the pants for Davante. Still, I could see them do it.

Giving your QB a contract without a lot of guaranteed money - imagine that.

[Fritz]

Raiders currently have 2nd pick in the draft, so they could be in position to draft a QB. Raiders would save about 30 million on cap by releasing or trading Carr before June 1. Trading Adams before June 1 would mean 31 million in dead cap for Raiders and increase the cap hit by 17 million. So Adams likely isn't going anywhere.

Now if only Green Bay had traded Rodgers to Denver. Imagine all the draft capital, and imagine that their record might be 3 - 8 instead of 4 - 7.

You'd be finding out if Love was the real deal, too. If he was, you're good to go. If not, you're looking to get that QB.

Big mistake to stay with Rodgers. Understandable, for sure, but in hindsight a mistake.

I notice Tex hasn't been posting shit for a couple weeks now.

[Rastak]

Now if only Green Bay had traded Rodgers to Denver. Imagine all the draft capital, and imagine that their record might be 3 - 8 instead of 4 - 7.

You'd be finding out if Love was the real deal, too. If he was, you're good to go. If not, you're looking to get that QB.

Big mistake to stay with Rodgers. Understandable, for sure, but in hindsight a mistake.

I notice Tex hasn't been posting shit for a couple weeks now.

He claims he won't post anymore this year because of the negative assholes. He should get some glasses. Vikings are sucking up the joint but they have some cushion.