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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    "I came to the realization that my first game here and potentially my last game was versus the Lions"

    Nowhere in that video did he say "which it is".
    He says "potentially my last game, which it is". Easy to interpret it as him saying it was his last game, but he's only, accurately, saying it potentially is his last game for the Packers. No intention or desire to leave the organization, but no strong desire to come back either. Often you hear players hoping to be back, but nothing in this case.

    He's going to test the waters, no reason for him not to since the Packers won't give him a massive contract. He'll get what he can get, probably elsewhere.
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    • #17
      As somebody said, he didn't say what the title implies - I think the term for that is click bait. I expect Lazard to be in Green Bay next year and maybe beyond with a respectable but not overly high salary.
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      • #18
        Well, I misheard that. Took me three times to listen to that to actually hear it. That's a strange thing to say.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          The only reason people are leaving at this point is because the Packers cap space is almost entirely ate up by a handful of players. Anyone looking to get a top level salary is going to have to look elsewhere at this point, because the Packers won’t be in the market for any more expensive contracts until they dig out from the clusterfuck of Rodgers’ contract.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by King Friday View Post
            The only reason people are leaving at this point is because the Packers cap space is almost entirely ate up by a handful of players. Anyone looking to get a top level salary is going to have to look elsewhere at this point, because the Packers won’t be in the market for any more expensive contracts until they dig out from the clusterfuck of Rodgers’ contract.
            True. They have cap issues to sort out, and what they do with the QB will drive many decisions too.
            I doubt Lazard's the top priority for them this offseason.

            I think they'd like to bring Lazard back; he has more value to certain teams like GB, SF, MIA, LAR... possibly CHI and MIN. Any with Shanahan roots that would like a big blocking WR.
            He's a good blocker and best in the 'big slot' role, but some teams aren't going to value him. He'll get interest and with the WR FA market being kind of bananas he could get a nice offer. If that's the case I wish him luck -- he seems like a good dude and he's earned a payday. He's a nice player but I don't think his skills are irreplaceable. I could see GB going younger (Lazard is 27) and cheaper, possibly with a TE who can run.

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            • #21
              I think the best scenario is wait until after June 1 and trade Rodgers to Las Vegas for a 2024 1st round pick. Rodgers gets reunited with Adams, and gets the chance to play close to home so he'll agree to the contract. Raiders can afford it because they will save almost $30 million on the cap by cutting Carr. Give Love a chance to play with these young receivers. If Love isn't good Packers will have the draft capital to move up in the 2024 draft to draft a quarterback.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                I think the best scenario is wait until after June 1 and trade Rodgers to Las Vegas for a 2024 1st round pick. Rodgers gets reunited with Adams, and gets the chance to play close to home so he'll agree to the contract. Raiders can afford it because they will save almost $30 million on the cap by cutting Carr. Give Love a chance to play with these young receivers. If Love isn't good Packers will have the draft capital to move up in the 2024 draft to draft a quarterback.
                I like it.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  I think the best scenario is wait until after June 1 and trade Rodgers to Las Vegas for a 2024 1st round pick. Rodgers gets reunited with Adams, and gets the chance to play close to home so he'll agree to the contract. Raiders can afford it because they will save almost $30 million on the cap by cutting Carr. Give Love a chance to play with these young receivers. If Love isn't good Packers will have the draft capital to move up in the 2024 draft to draft a quarterback.
                  Unless Over the Cap is wrong, trading Rodgers after June 1st leads to a massive cap hit.
                  Aaron Rodgers contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history


                  I think it might be possible to trade Rodgers very soon (before March) so that the next team has to pay the guaranteed bonus coming up.
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                  • #24
                    I don't like it. That's basically like a R2 in this year's draft. I guess getting the cap relief would be the main thing, but I think Rodgers still has 'slightly above average' play in his tank, and that's worth more than a Chase Claypool. Speaking of...how about trading him to CHI for Fields and the #1 pick lol

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      I think the best scenario is wait until after June 1 and trade Rodgers to Las Vegas for a 2024 1st round pick. Rodgers gets reunited with Adams, and gets the chance to play close to home so he'll agree to the contract. Raiders can afford it because they will save almost $30 million on the cap by cutting Carr. Give Love a chance to play with these young receivers. If Love isn't good Packers will have the draft capital to move up in the 2024 draft to draft a quarterback.
                      This is probably what they will do, I agree.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                        Unless Over the Cap is wrong, trading Rodgers after June 1st leads to a massive cap hit.
                        Aaron Rodgers contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history


                        I think it might be possible to trade Rodgers very soon (before March) so that the next team has to pay the guaranteed bonus coming up.
                        If I'm reading it right, according to OTC, the cap hit is 98 million if they trade him before June 1, and 30 million if they trade him after June 1. I don't think you can trade players anymore in this league year.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          If I'm reading it right, according to OTC, the cap hit is 98 million if they trade him before June 1, and 30 million if they trade him after June 1. I don't think you can trade players anymore in this league year.
                          Somewhere on this site someone found a link to a guy who actually had a really good breakdown of his deal and it was nowhere near as bad as we all thought it was by looking at OTC and sporran

                          We take a big hit, but it’s not 98 million (I don’t think). And could be spread over 2 years

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            Somewhere on this site someone found a link to a guy who actually had a really good breakdown of his deal and it was nowhere near as bad as we all thought it was by looking at OTC and sporran

                            We take a big hit, but it’s not 98 million (I don’t think). And could be spread over 2 years
                            Ken Ingalls.

                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #29
                              Trade Rodgers. My dream is that the Raiders want him and that the Packers can still get a first-round pick for him. Looks like trading him after June 1st is the most logical scenario, so okay - god I hope the Raider want him and will give up their 2024 #1.

                              The Packers can still salvage the mess from last year and start the rebuild. See is Love is the man next year. Give him the season to play and grow. IF he's the guy, great. If he's not, you go fishing in the draft.

                              Weird that the Lions are in a better place managing the cap and in terms of young talent and rebuilding.
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                              KYPack

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Trade Rodgers. My dream is that the Raiders want him and that the Packers can still get a first-round pick for him. Looks like trading him after June 1st is the most logical scenario, so okay - god I hope the Raider want him and will give up their 2024 #1.

                                The Packers can still salvage the mess from last year and start the rebuild. See is Love is the man next year. Give him the season to play and grow. IF he's the guy, great. If he's not, you go fishing in the draft.

                                Weird that the Lions are in a better place managing the cap and in terms of young talent and rebuilding.
                                Weird historically, but really not weird when you think about it.

                                I think CHI and DET finally got some front office people who understand what they are doing. Drafting smart, taking all their cap hits in years they know they aren't going anywhere, and in CHI case have a boatload of cap space in 2023 to sign free agents.
                                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                                -Tim Harmston

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