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Sparkey, this is interesting. Do you have any evidence for this? I'm curious as to what Gutes really wanted to do.Originally posted by Sparkey View PostIt wasn't Gutes. Murphy is the brainchild behind this whole train wreck. Gutes wanted/wants to give Love a shot. Murphy was pissing himself thinking about the bad pub he'd get during phase II of the TitleTown district development."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I'm both I think. You have to work hard to get in my rarified air.Originally posted by sharpe1027 View PostTex, I want to know if I'm a shit head or just a hater.
Rodgers is one of the greatest ever play the game. With the same team and coaching staff, would rather have Rodgers than Brady. That being said, he's not playing remotely close to his contract and that is hurting the Packers.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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That would have been to get us to trade Love. If we would trade the future he would need to give something back and an extra year at $25 million when he would have turned 41 during that season would have been fair. We also would have gauranteed the 2022 and 2023 season if he showed up. Bottom line, he was under contract and at the time he had 2 options. Report or sit (or start negotiating). They gave him something for nothing (cutting a year off the current contract). Thats just bad negotiating.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostBut those aren't realistic things Bobblehead. Why would Aaron take 25M in 2023 in the hypothetical above? The going rate for a top QB is ~50M.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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This is just silly. When they did it Rodgers had just won the MVP award. What they thought was that they had a super bowl roster and wanted the league MVP at QB instead of Love. That says almost zero about what they thought about Love at the time.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostThey didn't think JLo was the guy when they wrote that contract, or they wouldn't have done it. Earned or not (it obviously was).
The question is do they still think that. I think the bigger question is Brady retiring this year. If he is, then Rodgers returns to the NFL. If not, maybe Rodgers views this as a good time to walk away.
Edit: and everyone has one thing wrong. He got his contract to start 2021 after he won ONE MVP. He then won it again AFTER he signed the deal.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I disagree, if they thought he was the bees knees they would have moved on. See Packers 2008 where Favre was MVP runner up.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostThis is just silly. When they did it Rodgers had just won the MVP award. What they thought was that they had a super bowl roster and wanted the league MVP at QB instead of Love. That says almost zero about what they thought about Love at the time.
Edit: and everyone has one thing wrong. He got his contract to start 2021 after he won ONE MVP. He then won it again AFTER he signed the deal.
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He signed the current contract March of 2022 after winning his 2nd straight MVP. He had one year left on his old contract when he signed it. I think they had an agreement in 2021 that they would talk contract after the 2021 season.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostThis is just silly. When they did it Rodgers had just won the MVP award. What they thought was that they had a super bowl roster and wanted the league MVP at QB instead of Love. That says almost zero about what they thought about Love at the time.
Edit: and everyone has one thing wrong. He got his contract to start 2021 after he won ONE MVP. He then won it again AFTER he signed the deal.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Woody Johnson, the Jets owner reportedly willing to pay for a veteran QB. https://twitter.com/i/status/1613617243396444160
I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin'.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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hahahaha I'm not naming names. Their words betray them.
Seriously, ya'all don't think Rodgers will bounce back? You seriously don't think LaFleur, Gutekunst, etc. think Rodgers will be back on top next season? Or do ya'all think you know better than them?What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I think if Rodgers wants to play next year, GB will play him. I think they are more likely to trade Jordan Love than Aaron Rodgers (contract is easier to move, and he's younger).Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Posthahahaha I'm not naming names. Their words betray them.
Seriously, ya'all don't think Rodgers will bounce back? You seriously don't think LaFleur, Gutekunst, etc. think Rodgers will be back on top next season? Or do ya'all think you know better than them?
I do NOT think Rodgers will bounce back to elite level of play, but I do think he can play better than he did this year. He has to put in some work to play better though.
After next season I think he's probably done.
Every year the cold feels colder, the grind gets tougher, the players get younger and faster and hit harder. His body language speaks volumes.
I would be stunned if they traded Rodgers. If NYJ want to hand over a couple of R1 picks I'm sure Gute would listen.
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He might improve some, but I believe he's lost the chip on his shoulder that really made him great. No matter how poorly he plays, I suspect you'll say it's not that bad, not his fault, or both.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Posthahahaha I'm not naming names. Their words betray them.
Seriously, ya'all don't think Rodgers will bounce back? You seriously don't think LaFleur, Gutekunst, etc. think Rodgers will be back on top next season? Or do ya'all think you know better than them?
Let me put it this way so it's more objective. I don't think he'll be top ten in passer rating or similar metrics. I think top ten is his realistic ceiling and the floor is much lower.
I hope I'm wrong. I am not against Rodgers doing well, I just call it like I see it.
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Rodgers was 11th in the league in passing yards, 7th in TDs, 7th in INTs, and 17th passer rating for QBs with at least 100 attempts.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Oh Dear God, please, yes.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostWoody Johnson, the Jets owner reportedly willing to pay for a veteran QB. https://twitter.com/i/status/1613617243396444160
I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin'.
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