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  • #31
    Also, forgot to mention that both teams traded really good players that would cost too much going forward for the talent on the team and have gotten a lot of draft picks for it. Though I still don't understand the Chase Claypool trade by the Bears.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Ken Ingalls.
      There is a giant roster bonus do on the first day of the new year. If the team picks that up, then the dead cap jumps up to like 100 million

      I think I read somewhere that if they pick up the first option it locks in all the other years options

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        • #34
          Rodgers has now gone 22 straight games without a 300 yard passing game. The last one was December 12, 2021 against the Bears. In that same time period, Jared Goff has had 6. Kirk Cousins 4.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #35
            I think we're wishfully thinking that Rodgers will be traded. My guess is that the Packers front office put all their money on Rodgers and they're all in on that decision.

            If there's someone up there that regrets it, the best that person can hope for is a $60 million miracle retirement.

            I don't see any trade happening.

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            • #36
              I'm as tired of Erin as I was of Bert.

              So over the drama.

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              • #37
                The Packers offered this deal less than a year ago, he signed the deal less than a year ago. He was 38 years old. The Packers deserve to be cattle prodded after that ridiculous contract. 3 years 150 million with 101 million upfront, Just stupid.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                  I'm as tired of Erin as I was of Bert.

                  So over the drama.
                  It's actually worse with Aaron. Favre wanted say or to contribute to personnel decisions. The Packers refused to give to him so he retired, then unretired and got traded. Aaron got 150 million and an apology from the franchise for not asking his opinion and contributions on personnel decisions. Hell, he got Randall Cobb back to GB. All Favre wanted was Randy Moss for a 4th round draft pick. You know, the same Randy Moss that went to break the all time receiving touchdown record for a season with NE.

                  This organization should have at least 6 more Super Bowls from 1997 to the Present, and the franchise has done all the can to not win Super Bowls. No other Franchise besides the 49ers has had the 30 years of Hall of Fame QB play that the Packers have had and they have 3 Super Bowl appearances to show for it. Marginal drafting, lack of free agent signings, and personnel departments headed up by scared GMs, Sherman wasn't scared he was just inept.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                    The Packers offered this deal less than a year ago, he signed the deal less than a year ago. He was 38 years old. The Packers deserve to be cattle prodded after that ridiculous contract. 3 years 150 million with 101 million upfront, Just stupid.
                    and the probalem was, he was already under contract, no one needed to give him an extension, and he WANTED to be traded

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Trade Rodgers. My dream is that the Raiders want him and that the Packers can still get a first-round pick for him. Looks like trading him after June 1st is the most logical scenario, so okay - god I hope the Raider want him and will give up their 2024 #1.

                      The Packers can still salvage the mess from last year and start the rebuild. See is Love is the man next year. Give him the season to play and grow. IF he's the guy, great. If he's not, you go fishing in the draft.

                      Weird that the Lions are in a better place managing the cap and in terms of young talent and rebuilding.
                      Lions offloaded or let a lot of players go over the last 2-3 years. Trading Stafford for Goff and a boatload of picks will turn out well for them I think. Those draft picks (if well chosen) become less expensive cost-controlled contracts for younger, often healthier players with upside.

                      This article went out re: options a while back, seems like trading - not cutting - would be their option.


                      The cap charge here would depend on when he was traded. If Rodgers were to be traded prior to June 1st the Packers would take on a $40,313,750 cap hit in 2023. If he was traded after June 1st it would be a $15,833,570 cap hit in 2023 with $24,480,000 due in 2024. This assumes that the Packers did not exercise the option before the trade. If the option is exercised then the trade number spikes to nearly $100 million. There should be no need to exercise the option until the last possible day.
                      FWIW, I think they will run it back with Rodgers next year. Just a hunch.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by red View Post
                        and the probalem was, he was already under contract, no one needed to give him an extension, and he WANTED to be traded
                        That should make all your wieners bleed out of frustration

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by red View Post
                          and the probalem was, he was already under contract, no one needed to give him an extension, and he WANTED to be traded
                          I agree Red. We don't see eye to eye all the time on things, but Gutes et al fucked this one up good. At the time I said you call him with 3 options. 1) Agree to a trade where ever we can get the max value, but we will try and aim for your desired targets. 2) Sit there and pout, but hope Love doesn't ball out and make you look like a clown. 3) Fine, we will trade Love for what we can get if you agree to add $25 million one season to current deal. The next 2 years become fully gauranteed if as long as you play and report to EVERY practice.

                          Any of those would have worked I think. However, the solution of, we'll give you a shit ton of money to have us sit Love until you decide to retire and DROP a year from the current deal was absolutely asinine. And yes, I realize I am comparing 2 offseasons ago to last offseason. They dropped a year off to get him into camp. He won the MVP. They should have just let him play out the last year of the deal and went from there.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #43
                            But those aren't realistic things Bobblehead. Why would Aaron take 25M in 2023 in the hypothetical above? The going rate for a top QB is ~50M.

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                            • #44
                              Had him play out the last year and then tag him if he’s still dominating. What they did was cave to 12. And now they pay.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                                Had him play out the last year and then tag him if he’s still dominating. What they did was cave to 12. And now they pay.
                                they caved, and then they threw all the money they had at him to make it up to him, even though they never did anything wrong

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