What do the Packers get for Aaron Rodgers?

[call_me_ishmael]

I agree Mark Murphy really F’d up making those comments. He has a big mouth and says a lot of stupid shit for someone in his role.

[Fritz]

I agree Mark Murphy really F’d up making those comments. He has a big mouth and says a lot of stupid shit for someone in his role.

I agree - that was stupid, awkward, and uncalled for.

At the same time, Joe made a good point to me the other day. I'd said that Rodgers said on McAfee that he was leaning toward retirement but surprise surprise after he left his darkenss retreat he had players telling him the Packers were shopping him, and of course Rodgers painted a picture of someone who was surprised and saddened and betrayed by this.

Yet he was teasing out which fans were cheering loudest for a trade when he was in that golf tournament, which I believe was before his retreat. So his whole thing about feeling betrayed, that "something changed" with the Packer managment while he was in his retreat is, well, utter bullshit.

So I will, at this point, be glad when the trade is completed, Rodgers can become a Jet, and I only will wonder about him if there is a draft pick tied up in how well he plays for the Jets or how well they do.

I'll be ready to move on to talking about how the Green Bay rebuild is going. Though "rebuild" for a team that continues to kick the can down the road (more void years! More! This time Rasul Douglas) is an odd word. I don't know if they know what the fuck they're doing.

[King Friday]

I agree Fritz.

Rodgers is just as much to blame in the whole “divorce” as Packers brass is. To try and frame this as a “woe is me” situation really comes off all wrong. Both sides have made numerous mistakes during the past few years as the team tried to manage the final years of a HOF QB career, which normally goes off the rails at some point. It happened for Brady. It happened for Manning. It happened for Favre. It happened for Montana. The list goes on and on.

In terms of getting the deal done, I’m not sure the Packers have any way to truly gain leverage. However, as others have pointed out, the Packers are also in no rush. They don’t HAVE to make a deal, and the truth is that if they make a deal later in the off-season, it actually would benefit them. The fact is that the Jets stand to only lose leverage as time goes on. So the Jets may be right in saying compensation right now should be minimal. If the Packers had to act now, the Jets would stand to gain. However, the Packers do not have to act, and the eventual cost to the Jets will move higher and higher as we move closer to next season and they do not have a QB on their roster that they feel they can win with. It is basically a game of chicken at this point. The Packers are the train with 2 QBs. The Jets are on their bike heading toward the train with 0 QBs. In the end, the Jets are going to have to swerve, or face severe media/fan backlash.

[Sparkey]

The Packers cap benefits by the trade happening after June 1. The jets are in no position to have Rodgers miss minicamps. The less work he gets with his new team, the less impact he will have.

That is why the Packers have the leverage.

Everyone thinks if Rodgers comes back they are screwed. If they make the QB an open competition, Rodgers won't want to be back. Would Rodgers even take the chance on being a backup his last year. No way his ego let's that happen.

[texaspackerbacker]

It's not a divorce until the legalities (the trade) are done. There could/should still be some counseling, and things could get back to fine, it which case the team would be infinitely better off. I say again, I don't expect that, but it's just a glimmer of hope - the Packers' chances clinging to the rim as they are about to go down the toilet.

[MadtownPacker]

It may not be a divorce yet but this is just like when a couples go their separate ways. Separate living situation, bad mouthing each other, and causing drama.

It’s fucking great!!!!!

[texaspackerbacker]

It ain't over 'til it's over. Granted, the fat lady's getting her voice warmed up, but she ain't singing yet.

[MadtownPacker]

I agree, you are not negative at all. Way too damn optimistic but hey that’s not a bad quality. You also adapt so eventually you will warm up to Love if he is successful.

[texaspackerbacker]

a big IF ....... and it also depends how you define successful - 8/9/10 wins? 13, 14, 15 wins - the norm with Rodgers? a Super Bowl? whatever.

[MadtownPacker]

To me, success is reaching the top of the mountain. The story how you got there is only remembered and spoken of no matter how good or bad. Rodgers won 1 Superbowl and that is good enough IMO. Mission accomplished. He will always be a champion and no one can take that from him. Same with Brett and Love if he finds a way to win just 1.

[ThunderDan]

a big IF ....... and it also depends how you define successful - 8/9/10 wins? 13, 14, 15 wins - the norm with Rodgers? a Super Bowl? whatever.

So you were only Happy for 4 out of Arod's 15 seasons QBing the Pack.

[ThunderDan]

Packers Records with Arod:
2008: 6-10
2009:11-5
2010:10-6
2011:15-1
2012:11-5
2013:8-7-1
2014:12-4
2015:10-6
2016:10-6
2017:7-9
2018:6-9-1
2019:13-3
2020:13-3
2021:13-4
2022:8-9

Apparently, no where near what Tex remembers. 13, 14, 15 wins the norm.

[sharpe1027]

a big IF ....... and it also depends how you define successful - 8/9/10 wins? 13, 14, 15 wins - the norm with Rodgers? a Super Bowl? whatever.

The norm is under 13 wins by any objective measure. No wonder you are so one sided about Rodgers. You think he won more than 13 games as the norm. Your logic is flawed.

[Joemailman]

Peter Bukowski
@Peter_Bukowski

Also interesting one executive said he doesn’t think Gutekunst WANTS to trade Rodgers until post June 1 (for the cap savings) and that the Jets will have to incentivize the #Packers to do so.

Not sure if there's any validity to this, but it's an interesting take.

[sharpe1027]

Not sure if there's any validity to this, but it's an interesting take.

Spreads the cap hit out over two years, so it's not illogical.