What do the Packers get for Aaron Rodgers?

[Joemailman]

Spreads the cap hit out over two years, so it's not illogical.

It would mean no draft picks this year from the Jets, but maybe a Jets wide receiver could be part of the package?

[sharpe1027]

It would mean no draft picks this year from the Jets, but maybe a Jets wide receiver could be part of the package?

Yeah. We'd get more value next year when the draft might be deeper. I don't fully subscribe to the amount future picks are discounted under the draft value charts. Maybe my view is colored by watching the Patriots load up on future picks every year and have success.

[red]

Not sure if there's any validity to this, but it's an interesting take.

well i fucking said that same thing the other day and no one gave 2 shits

[red]

Yeah. We'd get more value next year when the draft might be deeper. I don't fully subscribe to the amount future picks are discounted under the draft value charts. Maybe my view is colored by watching the Patriots load up on future picks every year and have success.

how?

chances are that those draft picks won't be as high as they are this year

[Rastak]

I was talking with my buddy last night. He's a Pack fan although I am positive just to be a contrarian. I mentioned the Packers have the leverage now but really, with Hackett the offense should be familiar. I totally get the Packers holding out for something good. Jets have two options as I see it.

1) Putting a full court press on getting Lamar Jackson. This might spook them into lowering demands. I doubt it. Packers brass must realize this would be a shit deal for the Jets.
2) Wait them out. It's pretty clear they want to move on.

[sharpe1027]

how?

chances are that those draft picks won't be as high as they are this year

Teams will give up higher rounds for future picks, at least that's what I've read when they do the trade values.

[Rastak]

Teams will give up higher rounds for future picks, at least that's what I've read when they do the trade values.

I believe that it true. Future draft picks are of lower value than right now from everything I have heard.

[call_me_ishmael]

OMG imagine the popcorn if the Jets ended up landing Lamar. Personally, I think that's a better play long term for them. They must still like the young buck they've got long term.

[texaspackerbacker]

The norm is under 13 wins by any objective measure. No wonder you are so one sided about Rodgers. You think he won more than 13 games as the norm. Your logic is flawed.

hahahahaha Ya'all haters just don't quit. If I'm calculating the average, I'm leaving out the three or so years where Rodgers either played hurt or missed a lot of games. Actually, if I'm into stats, I'd just total up the number or percent of wins when he played and was healthy. But whatever. The point is, they're gonna nosedive, and for ya'all that are into playoff wins, Super Bowls, and trophies, you can forget about that for a long-g-g-g time too.

[texaspackerbacker]

OMG imagine the popcorn if the Jets ended up landing Lamar. Personally, I think that's a better play long term for them. They must still like the young buck they've got long term.

Is there a rumor of this now, or what? I thought ya'll were so sure they were all in for Rodgers - 99% sure one of you said.

As much as I'd like to see a few more years with Rodgers, I'd be just fine with it if the Packers took all the draft picks they get from the Jets, trade them to the Ravens, and end up with Lamar Jackson ....... but no, that ain't gonna happen hahahaha.

[Bretsky]

hahahahaha Ya'all haters just don't quit. If I'm calculating the average, I'm leaving out the three or so years where Rodgers either played hurt or missed a lot of games. Actually, if I'm into stats, I'd just total up the number or percent of wins when he played and was healthy. But whatever. The point is, they're gonna nosedive, and for ya'all that are into playoff wins, Super Bowls, and trophies, you can forget about that for a long-g-g-g time too.

Tex Tex Tex once in a while you should just quit when you are behind

How many years did AROD play for GB and what percent resulted in a Super Bowl. To me that is the measurable.

And from Gutebag's side, did he feel AROD would lead them to a Super Bowl given the roster/cap space and other implications. If the answer is no, then you move on IMO.

[sharpe1027]

hahahahaha Ya'all haters just don't quit. If I'm calculating the average, I'm leaving out the three or so years where Rodgers either played hurt or missed a lot of games. Actually, if I'm into stats, I'd just total up the number or percent of wins when he played and was healthy. But whatever. The point is, they're gonna nosedive, and for ya'all that are into playoff wins, Super Bowls, and trophies, you can forget about that for a long-g-g-g time too.

His win percentage would put him at about 11 wins per year. You're welcome.

[run pMc]

For the NYJ to get Lamar, they'd have to
(1) figure out a way to sign Lamar to a contract both he wants and the Jets could fit under their cap.
(2) have the Ravens NOT say "thanks for doing our negotiating work for us, we can match that."
(3) give up multiple first round picks

Super unlikely. The QB market has dried up, are the Jets going to sign Matt Ryan? Give up picks to trade up, draft Levis and hope he pans out quickly enough to save Saleh and Douglas (who will be on the hotseat no matter what)? Have Zach Wilson start again?
Jets have painted themselves into a corner. Gutekunst has leverage, but honestly I think he needs to act soon -- some unexpected event could swing the opposite way fast.

[Rastak]

For the NYJ to get Lamar, they'd have to
(1) figure out a way to sign Lamar to a contract both he wants and the Jets could fit under their cap.
(2) have the Ravens NOT say "thanks for doing our negotiating work for us, we can match that."
(3) give up multiple first round picks

Super unlikely. The QB market has dried up, are the Jets going to sign Matt Ryan? Give up picks to trade up, draft Levis and hope he pans out quickly enough to save Saleh and Douglas (who will be on the hotseat no matter what)? Have Zach Wilson start again?
Jets have painted themselves into a corner. Gutekunst has leverage, but honestly I think he needs to act soon -- some unexpected event could swing the opposite way fast.

I think that's a fair analysis. It also depends on how much Green Bay wants picks for this years draft to beef things up for Love. Jets could stall past the draft.

[RashanGary]

Jets fans are simultaneously saying they’re on of a handful of SB favorites with Rodgers and that he’s not worth more than a 3rd.