Official 2023 Bury Joe Barry Thread

[Bretsky]

Jimmy Leonard should be an easy candidate

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER; Let's all say it together...........JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY


Jimmy was a Raven and learned a bunch from their elite DC's
When Rey Ryan went to the Jets he said the first guy he wanted to bring in was Jimmy because Jimmy knew how to direct a defense
Jimmy was an elite DC at Wisconsin and was offered numerous opportunities to "upgrade" but Jimmy was loyal to the Badge
Jimmy referred to how GB was always a job he would consider, and the only job at that time he would consider
Jimmy gave such a great interview, that Flower close Jimmy over his Rose Bud and then settled on the RoseBarry after GB lowballed Jimmy with their offer

Now would I take Rex Ryan, Saleh, maybe...maybe Al Harris. MAYBE

But I'll take JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY any day of the week in Green Bay as our next DC

[Bretsky]

Leonhard. Not sure he's such a big deal anymore.

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[Joemailman]

With his own coaching future on the line, is MLF going to choose as his DC a Senior Football Analyst from Illinois? Maybe, but I doubt it.

[Bretsky]

With his own coaching future on the line, is MLF going to choose as his DC a Senior Football Analyst from Illinois? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Is he of less value because he took this job ?

I would say this is an ignorant way of looking at the situation. Jimmy is getting paid over $1,000,000 this year from the UW Madison and he was pretty strung to take the year off and stay home with family/kids. He turned down better opportunities, but BB knew his pedigree and throw out a carrot and this gig allowed him to work on a part time basis and worked for him proximity wise.

[Fritz]

Is he of less value because he took this job ?

I would say this is an ignorant way of looking at the situation. Jimmy is getting paid over $1,000,000 this year from the UW Madison and he was pretty strung to take the year off and stay home with family/kids. He turned down better opportunities, but BB knew his pedigree and throw out a carrot and this gig allowed him to work on a part time basis and worked for him proximity wise.

Settle down, fellas. We’re fighting over who the next DC should be, and we haven’t even got the current DC fired yet.

Stay focused. Joe Barely sucks. Joe Barely sucks. Joe Barely sucks.

[NewsBruin]

There is no reason to fire Joe Barely now. It just makes the organization look panicked, and the truth is, no new coordinator's going to be able to change enough to make so much difference that the Packers have that much better of a chance to win their last three and sneak into the playoffs. So no reason to can him now.

But the day after the season's over, yes, it's time.

I feel too much like an overconfident messageboard fan when I say this, but if Barry's coaching is losing the team and would affect incoming/outgoing free agents, then it would be better to place the D with a caretaker, be that promoting someone we've got or bringing in a fired HC/DC.

I consider that a white flag for the 2023 season, but if it keeps our players from fighting each other, I'm okay with it. Maybe if everyone thinks he's a nice guy who juat isn't getting results, I'd understand running out the string with him.

[call_me_ishmael]

Is he of less value because he took this job ?

I would say this is an ignorant way of looking at the situation. Jimmy is getting paid over $1,000,000 this year from the UW Madison and he was pretty strung to take the year off and stay home with family/kids. He turned down better opportunities, but BB knew his pedigree and throw out a carrot and this gig allowed him to work on a part time basis and worked for him proximity wise.

Do you believe that though? I mean, it's a 4.5 hour drive each way. It's not like he's commuting. I'm sure they moved down there. (You would know better).

I'm not convinced he had a bunch of folks beating down the door to hire him. We shall see. If he got the job, I'd be pretty happy, but I also would be shocked if he got it.

[NewsBruin]

https://x.com/TheOnion/status/1736828235273429296?s=20

[Joemailman]

The thing with Leonhard though is that he's never coached in the NFL. Yes, I know LaFleur reportedly offered him the job once. But that was when LaFleur was in a very strong position coming off 2 straight 13-3 seasons and nearly taking the team to the Super Bowl. This year he may be coming off 2 straight losing seasons and will know he needs to get this right to assure his own future. I just think he's going to want someone with NFL experience. Not an experienced mediocrity like Barry. He won't go that route again. But a guy who has built a solid reputation with his work in the NFL. I think a guy like Al Harris would have a better chance than Leonhard. We'll see.

[Bretsky]

Settle down, fellas. We’re fighting over who the next DC should be, and we haven’t even got the current DC fired yet.

Stay focused. Joe Barely sucks. Joe Barely sucks. Joe Barely sucks.

ah, it's all in good fun. I would never brawl with Joe

[Bretsky]

Do you believe that though? I mean, it's a 4.5 hour drive each way. It's not like he's commuting. I'm sure they moved down there. (You would know better).

I'm not convinced he had a bunch of folks beating down the door to hire him. We shall see. If he got the job, I'd be pretty happy, but I also would be shocked if he got it.

The job allowed him to stay in his home in Monona, with part of his work remote there and part in ILL. I don't think it's 4.5 hours. But early on he was only there a couple days out of the week, Sometimes not even on game day. It fit his schedule and BB wanted another set of eyes. And the Eagles were itnerested in him but he decided he didn't want to make the full committment. He's getting paid a ton from UW; who can blame him for wanting to take a year off, or just work a bit. The gig with ILL is not remotely full time and he didn't want that

[Bretsky]

The thing with Leonhard though is that he's never coached in the NFL. Yes, I know LaFleur reportedly offered him the job once. But that was when LaFleur was in a very strong position coming off 2 straight 13-3 seasons and nearly taking the team to the Super Bowl. This year he may be coming off 2 straight losing seasons and will know he needs to get this right to assure his own future. I just think he's going to want someone with NFL experience. Not an experienced mediocrity like Barry. He won't go that route again. But a guy who has built a solid reputation with his work in the NFL. I think a guy like Al Harris would have a better chance than Leonhard. We'll see.

I too would be surprised if he went back to JL after he turned the job down initially. I don't think Leonard even knows what he wants. Before JL had all the control. This time, I think to him to have a shot he'll have to pursue the job and he's still pretty jilted by UW and unsure of the route he wants to go.


I haven't followed AL Harris much; what is his pedigree (besides Tank pimping him for a while, which kinda scares me) ?

I'd love to see a guy like Brian Flores or Vic Fangio; not pursuing them last year was Flower's motherload of F'ck ups. Rarely do you have "2" guys of the pedigree available.

I could embrace Saleh. Does Al Harris have this type of pedigree yet ?

[call_me_ishmael]

Just knowing Al Harris I just believe he is gonna be a dawg and be an exceptionally aggressive coordinator.

[Fritz]

I too would be surprised if he went back to JL after he turned the job down initially. I don't think Leonard even knows what he wants. Before JL had all the control. This time, I think to him to have a shot he'll have to pursue the job and he's still pretty jilted by UW and unsure of the route he wants to go.


I haven't followed AL Harris much; what is his pedigree (besides Tank pimping him for a while, which kinda scares me) ?

I'd love to see a guy like Brian Flores or Vic Fangio; not pursuing them last year was Flower's motherload of F'ck ups. Rarely do you have "2" guys of the pedigree available.

I could embrace Saleh. Does Al Harris have this type of pedigree yet ?

I think a lot of posters here are saying they're tired of retreads, in large part because those retreads mostly come from the same coaching tree/scheme, and that scheme is being unmasked by Kyle Shanahan and other offenses across the NFL.

As Bobble said, it's about finding someone who's figuring out how to counter what offenses are doing in 2022, not running a defense that worked three or five years ago. Someone who can also adapt based on his defensive talent, playing to strengths and covering weaknesses. Not someone who just runs "The Scheme" over and over.

This is where you wish you could listen in on the interviews and hear which guy is that guy, the one who's thinking ahead, the smart one who has a vision of his own and can communicate that vision to his players (ah, there's that "communication" word).

Al Harris would be a great story - as long as he's not the Bart Starr or Forrest Gregg of defensive coordinators.

[Upnorth]

Maybe we should keep barry. He was just named the nfc offensive player of the week.

(Stole this from reddit)