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  • #46
    Maybe he packages it with the other R3 pick to move up into R2.
    Eventually they have to break this R3 curse. You'd think.

    Maybe Murphy decides to shitcan everyone and a new GM benefits. Doubtful, but you never know.

    they got Rasul for nothing off a practice squad, it's not like they are losing out on a big investment with him. He'd help them this year, but I think the returns on his will diminish over time.

    I get why people are unhappy he got traded. I guess I'm ok with it.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by red View Post
      the chances of them finding a player the caliber of douglas with that 3rd round picks is about 10%

      add in the fact that is now our pick, and gutebag can't find shit in the 3rd and that brings it to about a 2% chance of finding a player of the same quality with that pick
      The chances you give here are reasonable. We do save the money, so that’s one small benefit. But the odds of us getting better are slim to none. Rasul was worth every penny. I doubt Gute can spend that small amount of money any better than it was spent on Sul.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Travisb72 View Post
        There’s a reason they are 28th against the run. Gary is a pash rusher, who doesn’t play any outside contain or the run. Preston is just ok. Campbell was all pro 3 years ago and is a shell of that player and can’t stay healthy. Losing their best CB will hurts big time. Their safeties are trash.
        I like quay, big fatty Slaton, wyatt and Iowa boy has potential and jaire when healthy.
        Campbell was All Pro at the end of the 2021 season. Last year he was banged up but pretty damn good in 13 games. This season is 4 games old. See, when you exaggerate with "3 years ago" you lose credibility. You try and make it sound like his last good year was 3 seasons removed, when it was 1 full season ago.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #49
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          Campbell was All Pro at the end of the 2021 season. Last year he was banged up but pretty damn good in 13 games. This season is 4 games old. See, when you exaggerate with "3 years ago" you lose credibility. You try and make it sound like his last good year was 3 seasons removed, when it was 1 full season ago.
          1.5 for the end of the season, 2.5 from the beginning. Average is 2 years IMO. The dude is not gonna be that dude or he wouldn’t have been a street free agent.

          Fluke thing like John Salmons on the Bucks or that Asian fella hooping for a minute there a few years back.

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          • #50
            Probably the best move for the franchise, but you lose a good player who was a leader and you move up two rounds so you can decide between either your next Sean Ryan or your next Oren Burks.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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            • #51
              Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

              Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

              All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

              So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

                Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

                All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

                So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.
                Packerrats is full of know-it-all capologists.

                In 2024, Iranian Stallion’s cap hit is a bit under 40.6M. His infamous “dead cap” number, pre-June, is a bit under 19.1M.

                The Packers will, in fact, gain a bit over 20M, cap-wise, simply by terminating the Iranian Stallion pre-June 1. Yeah, since the Packers are in a dreaded cap hell, gotta get rid of arguably their best corner to save 7M, you know, to soften the hit from an inevitable 20M cap saving.

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                • #53
                  And, despite the 12.3M “dead cap,” the Packers will actually gain a tad over 4.8M in cap space by terminating the beloved Jones.

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                  • #54
                    He played like shit in the Lions game. Sucks to be in rebuild mode - my only wish was we could’ve dumped Jaire and Preston as well.
                    The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                    Vince Lombardi

                    "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                      1.5 for the end of the season, 2.5 from the beginning. Average is 2 years IMO. The dude is not gonna be that dude or he wouldn’t have been a street free agent.

                      Fluke thing like John Salmons on the Bucks or that Asian fella hooping for a minute there a few years back.
                      Except he is that dude. He plays at a very high level when he is on the field. Probably about the 15th best ILB in the NFL overall. Maybe better than that. And no, not 2.5. 1.5, He was all pro in 2021. That was the season. In 2022 he had some injury issues, but wasn't BAD when he played. That would be one season, not 2. This is 2023. He has been solid when on the field. And again, if the fatties in front of them did their job he would be even better.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Probably the best move for the franchise, but you lose a good player who was a leader and you move up two rounds so you can decide between either your next Sean Ryan or your next Oren Burks.
                        Except we didn't even move up 2 rounds. We moved up about 40 picks. Or 1.25 rounds.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                          Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

                          Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

                          All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

                          So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.
                          7th? I guess that may be true including practice squads. So what. James Harrison was a practice squad guy who became DPoY. Rasul currently is the 10th best CB in the NFL according to PFF. He has been nothing short of stud since he has been here. By trading him you create another hole on next years roster. I understood we would suck this year and a reset was in order, but you are almost making it impossible to be competitive NEXT year.

                          Rasul has a contract that is actually CHEAP based on the product he brings to the team. And again, not like we straight up got a 3rd for the 10th rated CB in the NFL, we moved up about 40 spots. So we effectively probably really got a middle to late 4th for him.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                            He played like shit in the Lions game. Sucks to be in rebuild mode - my only wish was we could’ve dumped Jaire and Preston as well.
                            Did you see that turd Maholmes laid sunday? Thats it, one bad game, trade him for nothing.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #59
                              Did anybody see who was waling off the field and consoling Jordan Love at the end of last weeks game ? Yes, it was Douglas...aka....one of our team leaders.

                              He was a very good CB for us this year and we have little behind him. If we dump Preston, we have a DE who can get a lot more time. If we dump Campbell, they have a young guy they really like in McDuffie they really like. But what is behind Douglas ?

                              Truth be told, what Gutebag must have found out is nobody wanted either of those guys. Regardless, we moved up in the draft about 35 slots. I'd have rather just taken a extra 4th. What Gutebag 3rd round pick would you take over Douglas ?

                              If you throw enough crap against the wall something is bound to stick. And Gutebag has drafted a lot of crap over the years.

                              And when interviewed, Gutebag gave the standard shit answer for the deal.

                              Gutebag can go bye bye yesterday
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                                Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

                                Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

                                All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

                                So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.


                                Team Leader

                                Best CB on our roster so far this year

                                Shit Deal
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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