Rasul Douglas Traded To Bills

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General comments on remarks in this thread:

I hated to see Douglas go, but......

Moving from the 5th round to the 3rd round is more significant than has been implied. I think some of you are forgetting that there will be 10 or so compensatory draft picks awarded at the ends of the 3rd and 4th rounds. Even if the move is from #1 in round 5 to #32 in round 3, it will likely be more than 40 spots.

The added draft capital can be bundled with others in trades. Maybe from round 2 back into late round 1, both 3s to mid round 2, etc. They will now have a lot more flexibility to maneuver around in the draft.

I suspect the thinking was Douglas would be released next offseason anyway for cap management purposes. Any more wins he would aid in this year are meaningless. Might as well see if Valentine or Stokes when he returns can be the guy for 2024 and beyond. 2023 is a player evaluation year.

This was probably the right thing to dp, given the situation.

wait????

where the fuck did patler come from?

[King Friday]

This was probably the right thing to dp, given the situation.

When did Patler become an expert on double penetration?

[ThunderDan]

Wrong thread.

[MadtownPacker]

Looked like an upgrade on the field to me.

[RashanGary]

Looked like an upgrade on the field to me.

Yeah. And sometimes if you’re robbing a bank, you have to go in and shoot one of their friends right away to show them you mean business. Axing ‘Sul was a message.

[MadtownPacker]

I thought it was to let him go play with a contender and avoid him turning malcontent around the young guys. Maybe to get good PR with NFL players. Likely had been some shit talking by him behind closed doors. Probably a wacko like you.

[bobblehead]

General comments on remarks in this thread:

I hated to see Douglas go, but......

Moving from the 5th round to the 3rd round is more significant than has been implied. I think some of you are forgetting that there will be 10 or so compensatory draft picks awarded at the ends of the 3rd and 4th rounds. Even if the move is from #1 in round 5 to #32 in round 3, it will likely be more than 40 spots.

The added draft capital can be bundled with others in trades. Maybe from round 2 back into late round 1, both 3s to mid round 2, etc. They will now have a lot more flexibility to maneuver around in the draft.

I suspect the thinking was Douglas would be released next offseason anyway for cap management purposes. Any more wins he would aid in this year are meaningless. Might as well see if Valentine or Stokes when he returns can be the guy for 2024 and beyond. 2023 is a player evaluation year.

This was probably the right thing to dp, given the situation.

I did forget about all the comp picks, so thats a fair point. I disagree that they would have released him after the season though. And if they had it would have been a bad move. I believe that if the organic improvement happens this team will be in the thick of the playoffs next season and pro like Douglas would have been invaluable. As for added maneuverability, we already have an extra 2nd, and now we are light a 5th. Yes, it adds some, I just don't think it was worth it.

Today we beat a bad Rams team with a jag QB and a PS RB. Also teams coming off playing the cowboys physical D are 1-7 v. the spread this year. I heard that and bet the Pack today. But the team did what they needed to. I can't fault them for that. There is still a lot of room to improve. Still some holes that can't be fixed within the current roster. I'm still hoping that they draft some serious OL help early next year.

[texaspackerbacker]

I hated to see Douglas go also. Do you suppose the quality of Carrington Valentine had anything to do with the trade? He played damn good in the preseason, and he played damn good against the Rams. Maybe, Gutekunst and LaFleur know more than the dumbass negativists in here give them credit for.

[run pMc]

Agree with patler - hated to see Rasul go, but was probably the right move. There is a big difference between a R3 and R5 pick, and GB will get comp pick(s) for Lazard and others who signed elsewhere. They'll have plenty of draft ammo to move around or get (hopefully) better/cheaper and younger.
Sul was a good locker room guy and a leader on the team, it hurts to lose those guys but Gute did him a favor sending him to a playoff caliber team.

Montez Sweat basically got Rashan Gary money. He's a good player and will help their DL, but they had to give up a R2 for that. Given the pass rushers likely to come out this next draft, it might not be a bad move. Sweat is probably as good if not better than any of them. They just won't get surplus value for him because of the draft pick and big salary.

[Bretsky]

I hated to see Douglas go also. Do you suppose the quality of Carrington Valentine had anything to do with the trade? He played damn good in the preseason, and he played damn good against the Rams. Maybe, Gutekunst and LaFleur know more than the dumbass negativists in here give them credit for.

This could be the case.

[bobblehead]

Stokes to IR, season over. Jaire suspended for being a bitch. Playoffs on the line. Gutes should be forced to answer why trading a pros pro for a later 3rd was too good to pass up.

[call_me_ishmael]

Stokes to IR, season over. Jaire suspended for being a bitch. Playoffs on the line. Gutes should be forced to answer why trading a pros pro for a later 3rd was too good to pass up.

'cause they're not playing for this year. They kinda want to lose.

[Bretsky]

Stokes to IR, season over. Jaire suspended for being a bitch. Playoffs on the line. Gutes should be forced to answer why trading a pros pro for a later 3rd was too good to pass up.

Gute was going to cute Rasul next year; that was the consensus with the media.

But it was crap; he was worth the money and on a team that doesn't have many leaders they lost a really good one

[texaspackerbacker]

It sure would be interesting to know WHO was the primary one pushing for Douglas to be traded - LaFleur, Barry, Gutekunst? And WHAT their reason was.

[Bretsky]

It sure would be interesting to know WHO was the primary one pushing for Douglas to be traded - LaFleur, Barry, Gutekunst? And WHAT their reason was.

IMO it was undoubtedly GUTEBAG

Go check out the interviews with the coaching staff afterword. Both sounded very unhappy and came out with the it's a business/it is what it is attitude.

Just the week before MFL tried leaning on Rasul and Preston to help send massages to the younger players. RASUL was a coaches fave.

This was all GUTER;in the inverview he said he was not looking to do it but the Bills called late and gave an offer that was too good to turn down. Personallly I didn't think it was that great