2024 3rd Round Pick #91 Overall Ty'Ron Hopper

[Scott Campbell]

Ya know who had a missed tackle % under 5? Payton wilson. The man is a machine. Good thing we took hopper instead.

When Gute writes his tell all book I hope he tells that story. My guess is the medical staff took him off their board.

[run pMc]

Payton Wilson is also 24, has already had 3 season ending injuries, and is missing an ACL. I don't think he'd make it through a 17 game season, and at the end of a 4 year contract you have to wonder what he'd be. Fun player, but yeah those medicals took him off boards.

Not saying I'm a fan of the Hopper pick (I'd have gone for Cedric Grey) but Wilson scares me.

[texaspackerbacker]

We'll see one way or the other about Hopper and the missed tackle stuff. I'm thinking, though it's like a shortstop with a great fielding percentage in baseball - maybe some of the guys with the good tackling percentages don't move as much as you'd like them to.

[Fritz]

Basically, the question was, is it more likely you can teach Dennis Hopper to tackle or Luke Wilson not to get hurt?

[sharpe1027]

Basically, the question was, is it more likely you can teach Dennis Hopper to tackle or Luke Wilson not to get hurt?

If they run the picket fence to free up someone, Hopper will be ready.

[RashanGary]

Cooper has a rare ability to sift through blocks where guys can’t get their hands on him even though they’re in great position. Leads to a lot of missed tackles because he ends up off balance in spots he had no business making it to in the first place. He also racks up huge amounts of big plays doing that and slows down the runner to allow others to finish.

Cooper has a high percentage and I’m ok with that. He’s an elite athlete and there is a logical reason for his mistakes.

Hopper. Nah. He’s a dead average athlete in NFL terms. He’s not an all world football guy. He is an all world culture guy though. Even if he doesn’t actually play well himself, even being a decent backup who brings out the best in the guys around him by bringing the ideal mindset to the extremely top heavy room he’s in… he still might be worth the pick.

But chisel it in stone. He’s not a good linebacker.

[bobblehead]

Basically, the question was, is it more likely you can teach Dennis Hopper to tackle or Luke Wilson not to get hurt?

I would be absolutely thrilled if we could teach ANYONE not to get hurt.

[sharpe1027]

Cooper has a rare ability to sift through blocks where guys can’t get their hands on him even though they’re in great position. Leads to a lot of missed tackles because he ends up off balance in spots he had no business making it to in the first place. He also racks up huge amounts of big plays doing that and slows down the runner to allow others to finish.

Cooper has a high percentage and I’m ok with that. He’s an elite athlete and there is a logical reason for his mistakes.

Hopper. Nah. He’s a dead average athlete in NFL terms. He’s not an all world football guy. He is an all world culture guy though. Even if he doesn’t actually play well himself, even being a decent backup who brings out the best in the guys around him by bringing the ideal mindset to the extremely top heavy room he’s in… he still might be worth the pick.

But chisel it in stone. He’s not a good linebacker.

I'm really confused by this assessment. Hopper's strength was getting pressure behind the line of scrimmage. He wasn't excellent in creating pressure and getting sideline to sideline.

[Fritz]

Cooper has a rare ability to sift through blocks where guys can’t get their hands on him even though they’re in great position. Leads to a lot of missed tackles because he ends up off balance in spots he had no business making it to in the first place. He also racks up huge amounts of big plays doing that and slows down the runner to allow others to finish.

Cooper has a high percentage and I’m ok with that. He’s an elite athlete and there is a logical reason for his mistakes.

Hopper. Nah. He’s a dead average athlete in NFL terms. He’s not an all world football guy. He is an all world culture guy though. Even if he doesn’t actually play well himself, even being a decent backup who brings out the best in the guys around him by bringing the ideal mindset to the extremely top heavy room he’s in… he still might be worth the pick.

But chisel it in stone. He’s not a good linebacker.

Dude, I’m not even going to carve it in soap.


An “average” NFL athlete? Not from all I’ve read. Junior Colton, maybe, is an average NFL athlete.

[sharpe1027]

I'm really confused by this assessment. Hopper's strength was getting pressure behind the line of scrimmage. He wasn't excellent in creating pressure and getting sideline to sideline.

I meant that he was excellent at those things.

[Fritz]

Junior Colson, I meant. Unless he IS a great athlete. Then I meant Junior Colton.

[run pMc]

Hopper has a 7.38 RAS acore at LB, meaning he ranks just under the 74th percentile athletically among linebackers historically. That's an above average overall athlete at the position, and well beyond the vast majority of people in general.

He's a little small size-wise, but that's how LBs are these days.
He has good enough speed and get get to the sideline just fine. His biggest issue is tackling.
Hopper fits what Hafley is going to want his LBs to do -- all of the defensive picks this year were aggressive, downhill attaching types who have good character and love football. I think Hafley is going to ask them to shoot a gap and not do a lot of thinking or reacting.

I'm NOT on the Hopper bandwagon, I think there were other LBs (or players at other positions) they could have gone for that i would have liked, but Gute isn't trying to please me specifically with his picks.
Either way he's a Packer and he's got a shot, so I'm rooting for him. This could be the return of the 3rd round curse.

[Fritz]

Hopper has a 7.38 RAS acore at LB, meaning he ranks just under the 74th percentile athletically among linebackers historically. That's an above average overall athlete at the position, and well beyond the vast majority of people in general.

He's a little small size-wise, but that's how LBs are these days.
He has good enough speed and get get to the sideline just fine. His biggest issue is tackling.
Hopper fits what Hafley is going to want his LBs to do -- all of the defensive picks this year were aggressive, downhill attaching types who have good character and love football. I think Hafley is going to ask them to shoot a gap and not do a lot of thinking or reacting.

I'm NOT on the Hopper bandwagon, I think there were other LBs (or players at other positions) they could have gone for that i would have liked, but Gute isn't trying to please me specifically with his picks.
Either way he's a Packer and he's got a shot, so I'm rooting for him. This could be the return of the 3rd round curse.

Why wouldn’t Guter want to please you, or us, with his picks? How are we gonna win the offseason, that long and crucial stretch, if the national writers and fans aren’t saying the Packers done great in the offseason? After all, the offseason lasts as long or longer than the real season, so having to sit around listening to Lions’ fans and national writers crowing about “winning” the draft and free agency is a real pain in the ass.

Everybody knows that winning the offseason is as important as winning the Super Bowl, and a lot easier, too.

[run pMc]

Everybody knows that winning the offseason is as important as winning the Super Bowl, and a lot easier, too.

Yes, Dan Snyder was a big winner there. Jerrah had his moments too.
Let's not forget the time Vince Young called PHI the Dream Team.

Let DET fans crow. They have suffered plenty and need to feel good about overpaying for their QB. (tbh, Brad Holmes has been their best GM in decades.)

[sharpe1027]

The Goff contract won't have an effect this year. It will start to be felt in subsequent years.