PREDICT JORDAN LOVE'S NEXT CONTRACT

[Patler]

And as JH said, it protects him against the nick collins injury. Or the 7 concussions Tua got in 3 games. The guarantee definitely matters.

I disagree. The likelihood of a QB sustaining a career ending injury is quite small, especially under today's rules. They don't get hurt that badly as a defender lightly tugs the ribbon-like flag from their belts, or gently touches them between their shoulders and waist.

[Patler]

And they will. I'm just saying I wouldn't. Not yet. Show me another season and you can have the top contract in the league.

Were you against the Rodgers contract in 2008? I actually was. I thought he needed to prove more than he had in the few games he had played.

The Patler of then would agree with you now, about Love. The Patler of now is a more accepting realist of the absurd amounts money and how it is spent in the NFL.

[MadtownPacker]

And they will. I'm just saying I wouldn't. Not yet. Show me another season and you can have the top contract in the league.

Record will show a bad GM that made the wrong call twice and cost his franchise more $$$.

Pay now or pay more later and maybe to some asshole who ain’t half as good.

[ThunderDan]

Record will show a bad GM that made the wrong call twice and cost his franchise more $$$.

Pay now or pay more later and maybe to some asshole who ain’t half as good.

My business partner is a Vikings fan and is bitching about how stupid the GM is on Justin Jefferson. Says the GM is closing the franchise millions. The highest WR contract is now 4 or 5 million higher a year since when they should have made him the highest paid WR. Every day the chance is the “next” highest WR contract comes in costing MN more.

[bobblehead]

Were you against the Rodgers contract in 2008? I actually was. I thought he needed to prove more than he had in the few games he had played.

The Patler of then would agree with you now, about Love. The Patler of now is a more accepting realist of the absurd amounts money and how it is spent in the NFL.

I can't recall to be honest. I would say that given my disposition and nature I was....and for the same reasons. I also recall being one of his defenders though and not a detractor. I tend to push back against the more radical ideas....Like Skinbasket declaring Chad Clifton a better QB than Love...or something like that.

[bobblehead]

Record will show a bad GM that made the wrong call twice and cost his franchise more $$$.

Pay now or pay more later and maybe to some asshole who ain’t half as good.

well, if you are talking about the Rodgers contract I was firmly in favor of trading him to Denver for like 9 firsts or whatever. I just knew we weren't going to. And I proposed forcing him to put his money where his mouth was by offering to trade Love if he would sign 2 more years on the back end for $25M a season. My exact proposal was to trade Rodgers, Adams and Bak and begin the rebuild with a mountain of draft capital. We timed Adams perfect, were late on Rodgers and got pimp rolled on Bak. I wanted to trade anyone over 30 at the time because I figured when SF whooped us with a blocked punt our window was closed....and what do you know, I was corrrect.

[RashanGary]

The idea of giving Love 40M guaranteed doesn’t seem realistic. They signed him to a 2 year deal last year that was essentially a 5th year option where they paid half in the 4th year. If they want to see one more year, they can see it for 10M not 40.

Thunderdan mentioned Justin Jefferson’s contract getting much larger as time passes.

NFL front office types are well aware of the price that is paid for investing in the wrong person. Love has the arm, mobility, big body that should be durable, big bad weather hands, off platform ability, accuracy…. He has it all. Gute mentioned something about knowing the “person” and knowing whether they can count on him to become his best. There is a certain “it” factor with quarterbacks that half a season of elite play doesn’t prove. So as Patler said, it’s a roll of the dice.


But I say roll it now. 53 now is 13% less than a likely 60 next year. The peacock deal and all the additional time and day slots that keep being added, the talk of an 18 game schedule on the horizon. 60 might be unrealistically low by the time next offseason rolls around.

If he fails you move on in 3 years and eat some cap consequences.

I think you roll the dice. And I do think loves camp will be a little bit understanding of the 1/2 year of proven play situation and it’ll be a little lower than a lot of people think. Maybe 50 per.

[bobblehead]

The idea of giving Love 40M guaranteed doesn’t seem realistic. They signed him to a 2 year deal last year that was essentially a 5th year option where they paid half in the 4th year. If they want to see one more year, they can see it for 10M not 40.

Thunderdan mentioned Justin Jefferson’s contract getting much larger as time passes.

NFL front office types are well aware of the price that is paid for investing in the wrong person. Love has the arm, mobility, big body that should be durable, big bad weather hands, off platform ability, accuracy…. He has it all. Gute mentioned something about knowing the “person” and knowing whether they can count on him to become his best. There is a certain “it” factor with quarterbacks that half a season of elite play doesn’t prove. So as Patler said, it’s a roll of the dice.


But I say roll it now. 53 now is 13% less than a likely 60 next year. The peacock deal and all the additional time and day slots that keep being added, the talk of an 18 game schedule on the horizon. 60 might be unrealistically low by the time next offseason rolls around.

If he fails you move on in 3 years and eat some cap consequences.

I think you roll the dice. And I do think loves camp will be a little bit understanding of the 1/2 year of proven play situation and it’ll be a little lower than a lot of people think. Maybe 50 per.

If he would take 50 for 3 to 5 years then sign him. He won't. Its going to be 56 per and nearly impossible to move away from as most of it will be locked in. It could also be 60 per right now but for like 10 years so it doesn't look so bad in 3 years ala maholmes deal.

[Scott Campbell]

Mike Tannenbaum went on Dan Patrick yesterday and said if there was a draft where you could pick any player, he's taking Mahomes first and Jordan Love second.

I think it's safe to forget about any hometown discounts, or there not being enough of a track record to pay the guy. I think Jordan is about to become the highest paid player in the history of football. They won't wait to do this.

[bobblehead]

Scott, I think I have been very clear that its happening. I just don't agree with it. And Love 2nd in the entire league? Maybe. Its got to be a QB and he is young and talented. He also is working with a very smart coach who had 3 years to mold him. Personally its Burrow in a no brainer for me. Then you got a logjam where it can be a lot of guys. Factor in youth and Love, Herbert, Stroud are all pretty close in my book. I've seen Burrow do it for multiple years. He is clearly the #2 QB in the NFL in my book.

[call_me_ishmael]

Scott, I think I have been very clear that its happening. I just don't agree with it. And Love 2nd in the entire league? Maybe. Its got to be a QB and he is young and talented. He also is working with a very smart coach who had 3 years to mold him. Personally its Burrow in a no brainer for me. Then you got a logjam where it can be a lot of guys. Factor in youth and Love, Herbert, Stroud are all pretty close in my book. I've seen Burrow do it for multiple years. He is clearly the #2 QB in the NFL in my book.

Good post. I agree.

[Bretsky]

Scott, I think I have been very clear that its happening. I just don't agree with it. And Love 2nd in the entire league? Maybe. Its got to be a QB and he is young and talented. He also is working with a very smart coach who had 3 years to mold him. Personally its Burrow in a no brainer for me. Then you got a logjam where it can be a lot of guys. Factor in youth and Love, Herbert, Stroud are all pretty close in my book. I've seen Burrow do it for multiple years. He is clearly the #2 QB in the NFL in my book.

It's idiotic to say Love over Burrow at this point.

Has Love shown more than Stroud ?

Has Love shown more than Herbert ?

Has Love shown more than Josh Allan (yes, I would prefer Jordan)

I agree with you, but I'd like to see more of him before backing up the truck and letting his agent get everything he wants. Because we can't keep everybody so monies saved will mean more players we can keep

[Joemailman]

If you're talking about guaranteed money, I would take Love over Burrow because of Burrow's injury history. I think Love is as good as Herbert or Stroud. But this isn't about the past so much as the future. It's about projecting how good Love will be in the future, and projecting how big QB salaries will be in the future. If I could have any current NFL QB for the next 5 years, I'm not sure I would take anyone other than Mahomes over Love.

[call_me_ishmael]

It's idiotic to say Love over Burrow at this point.

Has Love shown more than Stroud ?

Has Love shown more than Herbert ?

Has Love shown more than Josh Allan (yes, I would prefer Jordan)

I agree with you, but I'd like to see more of him before backing up the truck and letting his agent get everything he wants. Because we can't keep everybody so monies saved will mean more players we can keep

You'd really prefer Jordan Love over Josh Allen? That's bananas IMO. Love has done it once. Allen has shown consistency over a long period of time.

[Joemailman]

You'd really prefer Jordan Love over Josh Allen? That's bananas IMO. Love has done it once. Allen has shown consistency over a long period of time.

Allen has done it for a longer time, but he's become more turnover prone the longer he plays. 47 INT's over the last 3 seasons. His best season was in 2020. He's spectacular, but Love might be more steady.