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  • #16
    I would like to see, as part of the deal with LeFleur, a commitment from Policy to open the purse strings for assistant coaches, so The Flower can hire some more experienced coaches. The Flower is not developing his own coaches, so let him have the budget to hire quality outside guys.

    I think re-upping The Flower made the most sense. You've basically put all your cards on the table for next year, before big changes will need to be made, so it would make no sense to start over with a new coach. Now give him the resources to hire better assistants. And if he flubs next year, he can be your coach while you revamp the team when all the contracts and dead money come due. Then when you're positioned to make another run, you can shit can him if you want to and you won't be paying him for not coaching for a bunch of years, like the Raiders do.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #17
      Why is this a good thing? Why will next year or the year after be any different than this year, last year or any other year under LaFleur?

      Coaches who win Super Bowls generally do so earlier in their tenures with teams than where LaFleur is already. Why do I get the feeling that a few years from now the Packers will be exactly where they are now, but having wasted more years of Love's and Parsons' career?

      Did Buffalo make the difficult decision that Green Bay did not?

      Help me feel better about this, please!

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      • #18
        Last year, of course, was pretty much ruined by injuries. LaFleur's tenure in general, though, has been damn good. I certainly hope things continue as good the next decade or so as the time up to now with LaFleur.

        Buffalo seemingly made an incredibly stupid decision. We'll see if it bites them in the ass going forward.
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Why is this a good thing? Why will next year or the year after be any different than this year, last year or any other year under LaFleur?

          Coaches who win Super Bowls generally do so earlier in their tenures with teams than where LaFleur is already. Why do I get the feeling that a few years from now the Packers will be exactly where they are now, but having wasted more years of Love's and Parsons' career?

          Did Buffalo make the difficult decision that Green Bay did not?

          Help me feel better about this, please!

          Andy Reid.

          Does that help?
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            Why is this a good thing? Why will next year or the year after be any different than this year, last year or any other year under LaFleur?

            Coaches who win Super Bowls generally do so earlier in their tenures with teams than where LaFleur is already. Why do I get the feeling that a few years from now the Packers will be exactly where they are now, but having wasted more years of Love's and Parsons' career?

            Did Buffalo make the difficult decision that Green Bay did not?

            Help me feel better about this, please!


            ALL GREAT POINTS

            I don't love the decision either. If you want to feel better, I would say Maybe this is a shit year for candidates, and maybe the Flower will bring in some amazing assistant coaches

            But I do worrry the Flower keeps the ST coach, and OL coach, and our OC. i can't imagine him doing this BUT.....what is the wait ??????/
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              Andy Reid.

              Does that help?
              No, not at all. In fact, he supports my point. He got to the SB in his 6th year in Philadelphia but lost and never got back again with the Eagles. After the Eagles tired of him, he went on to KC and won it all in year seven with them.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                No, not at all. In fact, he supports my point. He got to the SB in his 6th year in Philadelphia but lost and never got back again with the Eagles. After the Eagles tired of him, he went on to KC and won it all in year seven with them.
                Maybe the last part of your post will make you feel better. Imagine LeFleur getting canned here and then going somewhere else and winning it all in year seven.

                I don't know. I'm hoping the organization will open up its pocketbooks for higher quality, more experience assistants, and that will get them over the top. I think your criticisms of LeFleur are valid; however, I don't think it makes a lot of sense for the team to fire him right now - the team is set up for a run next year, and implementing a new system with a new coach would seem to put that opportunity at risk. Ideally, I would have liked to see them extend LeFleur for a shorter period - say a year or two - and give him the chance to hire better assistants. That way, he'd have a chance to take advantage of the opportunity next season brings, and would also oversee the tearing-apart/re-build of the team in '27. Then you could decide if he's your guy long term.

                But that's not how it went, and I can see why. LeFleur wouldn't want a short-term extension when he knows he could get a longer deal with another team. And apparently nobody wants a coach coaching as a lame duck, so just leaving things as-is wasn't going to work either.

                I am not a huge LeFleur fan, but I get why things fell as they did. As I said, my hope is that an improvement in the assistant coaching ranks will improve the team's performance.
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #23
                  That "getting tired of him" mentality is for losers. When you've got a winner, stick with him. We do. We should. We will.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    That "getting tired of him" mentality is for losers. When you've got a winner, stick with him. We do. We should. We will.
                    Huh? Here you and I go again with the living on a different Planet thing.

                    How in God’s name does losing your last 5 games in a row while choking TWICE to the Bears equate to having a winner. That’s not winning that’s losing! His last Playoff game vs the Bears he coached only half a game.

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                    • #25
                      Seriously? This season was of course, ruined by injuries.

                      Over the course of the LaFleur years, and basically for over three decades, the Packers have been consistent winners. Anybody dumb enough to whine about that should consider the big picture - what life is like as a fan of maybe 28-30 other teams around the league. I'll take what we have.

                      As for LaFleur, I get a little bit annoyed at times too with his play calling, time management, choice of assistant coaches, etc., but the bottom line is, the guy is a winner. We all benefit from that, and it would be bonehead stupid to get away from that.
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Why is this a good thing? Why will next year or the year after be any different than this year, last year or any other year under LaFleur?

                        Coaches who win Super Bowls generally do so earlier in their tenures with teams than where LaFleur is already. Why do I get the feeling that a few years from now the Packers will be exactly where they are now, but having wasted more years of Love's and Parsons' career?

                        Did Buffalo make the difficult decision that Green Bay did not?

                        Help me feel better about this, please!
                        All I can say is that McDermott was not a good coach. Lafleur is. Watched a lot of Buffalo games. Will we win an Owl? Who knows. The odds say no. If we move on from MiLF....who knows, the odds say no.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Vincenzo View Post
                          Huh? Here you and I go again with the living on a different Planet thing.

                          How in God’s name does losing your last 5 games in a row while choking TWICE to the Bears equate to having a winner. That’s not winning that’s losing! His last Playoff game vs the Bears he coached only half a game.
                          A small snapshot of a 7 year career seems a bit....off. When he had the remnants of Thompsons greatness as the base of his roster he went to multiple NFCC games. Maybe the problem isn't him.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #28
                            Ted Thompson made some serious mistakes in his last few years in Green Bay as GM, but he did draft some damn good players who were around for a long time.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Ted Thompson made some serious mistakes in his last few years in Green Bay as GM, but he did draft some damn good players who were around for a long time.
                              Still think Gutes was running the show at a minimum the last year of TTs career here. Kevin King? Total athlete disguised as a football player.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #30
                                Dolphins have hired Bobby Slowik ac OC. Stenavich and Jason Vrable had been considered candidates.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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