Starting to appreciate what Sherman did for GB?

[cpk1994]

Like when Sherman traded up for Kenny Peterson? That was so cool and boy didn't that work out?

How about the 5th and 6th round picks for R-Cal Truluck?

[Bretsky]

Like when Sherman traded up for Kenny Peterson? That was so cool and boy didn't that work out?

Worked better than B.J. Sander. And James Lee ...

Did we trade up for Donnell Washington?

Yes we did trade up for that retard from Clemson! Good Job.

I think that was the 2003 draft class, maybe the '04 class, but we had 3 third round picks and not one of them is with the team, in fact none of our first day picks are currently(thank god) are with the team.

Sherman also traded up for Corey Williams, Javon Walker, and I think Aaron Kampman (although I may be wrong on the last one)

He was a sub par GM, but seeing the bashing has begun I figured I'd point out it did work once in a while too.

[The Leaper]

Draft for best quality talent ( HOLD YOUR DRAFT POSITION ) not bodies with limited talents (5th - 7th round picks).

So you are saying that Thompson gives away top 100 picks for 5th-7th rounders?

Please provide evidence of this for us. I'm intrigued.

[The Leaper]

Trade up if your needs or your man is there. Oherwise known as 'GOING FOR IT!

It all depends on the draft for me. If the draft is deep, trade down when you feel equal talent will be available later and acquire additional picks. If the draft is thin, stay put or trade up.

[MadtownPacker]

Another Sherman thread???

[Bretsky]

Another Sherman thread???

Pretty dam boring offseason when we have to bring Sherman back.

BTW, thanks for the goodies; great stuff

[Fritz]

How long can we keep the Sherman debate going? Do you think, in twenty years, we can still bring it up and debate it? Couple of old, old fogeys going toe-to-toe? Could be fun.

"Dad gummit, I remember back when I was a young pup, Mike Sherman was the coach. Then the legend, Ron Wolf, went and gave Sherman the GM's job. I'll never forget that day. I was drinking some Lienys down at the bar, and..."

Like that?

[KYPack]

Really Fritz.

I mean, it's a historical arguent qat best
We should slag Thomspon for his mistake, & Lord knows, he's made a few.

But why talk about the PSL at all?

I liked 'ol Mikey. He busted his ass to try & bring home a winner. He failed and moved on. But the arguments about who's "better" seem strange to me. Let's cheer Thompson when he succeds and slag him when he fails, but MS is bgone & done.

let's try to forget the boy.

[packrat]

I'm trying, I'm trying!!!

[Carolina_Packer]

As much credit as we need to give to Wolf and Harlan for their part in the build-up to the two Super Bowl years is as much blame as they deserve for two blunderous moves.

Hiring Ray Rhodes to succeed Mike Holmgren was a mistake that Wolf admitted to. I appreciate him owning up, but it still set the team back.

Hiring an inexperienced coach in Mike Sherman was not exactly a bad mistake, given that he ended up having some good regular season success and the teams were competetive, save for his last year when the team was killed by injuries.

Hiring Sherman as the GM and giving him a dual-role of HC/GM was a colossal mistake. First, I've never liked the dual role; ever. It has only worked successfully in a few cases, but more often than not, it doesn't. Knowing that, why would you give a guy who just completed his first year as a head coach the GM reigns? It made no sense then, just as today.

We can blame Sherman on the surface, but I think we need to look at who created the situation. Sherman was just doing the best he could, and was obviously out of his depth when it came to being a GM. Could it have had anything to do with the fact that either job HC or GM are by themselves demanding enough? Yes. Then you go and give the job to an inexperienced guy like Sherman. Why didn't we just have a Bo Bo the chimp throw a dart at a list of candidates?

[Jerry Tagge]

I want to be one of the old fogeys talking about Sherman in 20 years.

Personally, I'd rather talk about Estus Hood.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Sherman had a losing season and got fired.

Ray Rhodes had a .500 season and was fired.

McCarthy did not have a winning season and yet he was retained.

McCarthy will be on thin ice or the hot seat this season.

[superfan]

Another Sherman thread???

Agreed.

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[HarveyWallbangers]

Sherman had a losing season and got fired.

Ray Rhodes had a .500 season and was fired.

McCarthy did not have a winning season and yet he was retained.

McCarthy will be on thin ice or the hot seat this season.

Funny! Rhodes was .500, but McCarthy "did not have a winning season." Rhodes took over a team that was two years removed from the Super Bowl, and made the playoffs the year before. McCarthy took over a team that was ten years removed from the Super Bowl, and was 4-12 the year before. No, I'd say McCarthy has the full three years to get it done.

[Iron Mike]

Re: Starting to appreciate what Sherman did for GB?

Ok, only time will tell just how much we should or should not have appreciated Shermans time in GB as a coach and GM. I for one, have still not jumped on the TT bandwagon, and I am not about to any time soon. I have not seen enough improvements to this team to warrant jumping on his bandwagon.

Bumped for ensuing hilarity.