TURTLE ARTICLE- "DEEP POCKETS, SHALLOW PLANS"

[RashanGary]

We improved last season by waiting for the rush to conclude and than jumping in and signing some solid players. The same will happen this season.

Very true adn we still had 25 million to spend this season. Thompson is getting alot of bang for his buck and if he contineus to draft well, we'll have a hard time just keeping our own even at teh RFA discounts. There is no reason to risk the future for very slight improvement now.

[Bretsky]

The rush imo is the first few days of signings. Who did we sign last year within the first three or four days of signings, can you please tell me who?

Manuel was signed almost immediately; Pickett a few days later.

Who were the late signings you are referring to ?

[b bulldog]

I agree and I hope people aren't wanting the team to go crazy in UFA just because Brett is back. This team is still not there but they are getting closer.

[Charles Woodson]

We improved last season by waiting for the rush to conclude and than jumping in and signing some solid players. The same will happen this season.

Can you reiterate on this ? We singed Manuel and Pickett very early in March.

I'm confused as to who we signed after waiting for the rush to conclude.


Later in free agency we grabbed Ben Taylor, who did nothing for us
and Charles Woodson, who we grossly frontloaded to use up cap space

Am I missing a bunch ?

Im with you B i really hate this whole approach of barely touching FA's

What i dont understand is people are going to get overpaid anyways, its just gana happen and Bull who do you want us to put our 20 million on, i mean i really would have liked some of the people. Idk i just i get to excited

[b bulldog]

I think all but Manual were signed after the crazy period ended. I remember everyone thought Pickett was going to reup with the Rams, than he came to GB, TT let him leave without a contract and we all thought he was gone. After a day or two after he left GB he signed. Woodson was late and the Arrington dweal was also late.

[Bretsky]

I think all but Manual were signed after the crazy period ended. I remember everyone thought Pickett was going to reup with the Rams, than he came to GB, TT let him leave without a contract and we all thought he was gone. After a day or two after he left GB he signed. Woodson was late and the Arrington dweal was also late.

Patler looked up this info last week and Pickett signed around a week after Manuel; he was hardly in the bargain range of time.

You are right in that Pickett had the Rams and another team (I believe the Bills) biding on his services. He left GB and I thought we'd lost him and then he signed. It would not be fair for you to say GB had a great bargain deal since they let FA cool down with that deal on Pickett.


Again, after GB won the price war for Pickett, they only added Taylor and Woodson.

TT found no bargains after the rush.

Many of us were up on TT after the Pickett signing and had faith he'd continue to try with all the cap space he had. But he didn't do that.

Then we were up in arms because he took a long period off and then signed Ben flippin Taylor and frontloaded the Woodson deal. .

[red]

pickett was actually in for an interview a day or two after FA began, but didn't sign until like a week later

lets not forget that the woodson signing only came after favre announced he was coming back. and many people think that TT made that move to make brett happy. it was a highly suspect signing at the time, and completely out of character for TT. big contract with a lot of money up front, to a guy who had barely played in 2 years and had question marks all over the place about his health and attitude. and he's an older guy.

i think TT might have gotten forced into that one

[HarveyWallbangers]

Pickett interviewed early in the FA period. He also interviewed with other teams. He made his decision later. Manuel signed immediately. Woodson is the guy we waited on--after trying to go after Arrington first.

[HarveyWallbangers]

pickett was actually in for an interview a day or two after FA began, but didn't sign until like a week later

Exactly.

[Zool]

Again, ask the Skins about signing FA's.

[Fritz]

Bretsky, why the anger over frontloading Woodson's deal? Do you want to wait three years and when Woodson's an aging, slow, useless corner owe him ten mil for the year? That's more of a Sherman strategy.

I still don't get the whole "TT doesn't spend enough money" thing. Woodson and Pickett played well, Manuel sucked. Who exactly do you want TT to overpay? Thomas is suited to a 3-4 defense, Nate Clements got a freakin' 80 million dollar contract, Stallworth gets hurt and has already played for how many teams, and Green is good but he gets hurt, can not handle a workhorse load, and is thirty years old. I hope they re-sign him but not for a deal that will have everybody bitching in three years when he's toast but will be owed five million for the year.

So who exactly should TT race out and sign that's going to put the Pack in the Super Bowl this year?

[MJZiggy]

Again, ask the Skins about signing FA's.

Their fans just love the FA first philosophy. They absolutely adore all the "important" signings and money that gets spent on them. [/sarcasm]

[Patler]

Manual signed on the first day of free agency.
Pickett signed four days later.

[Packnut]

FA

Yep, every one of those GM's from all those teams signing free agents are all idiots. What the hell is wrong with them? Don't they know signing high priced free agents is wrong? How dare they spend millions of dollars in order to help their teams improve.

It's ok guys, like TT has stated, Manuel just needed a year to adapt. Coming to a strange city was hard on him, plus he was recovering from the injury thing. The problems in the secondary were not all his fault per TT.

Remember next season the first time ANOTHER WR runs free in our secondary or ANOTHER QB makes Manuel bite on PA, that your beloved GM did'nt waste on money on Hamlin or Grant.

Shame on the Saints for bringing Hamlin in for a visit today. What on earth is Payton thinking?

[b bulldog]

Nobody said that UFA signings were foolish just that the market as it is now is plain crazy and teams are spending much more than the players worth. Yep, lets sign players who haven't even made the probowl to contacts that make them the highest paid players at their positions, great idea!!!!! Maybe we can sign Hamlin for $8mil per season, I bet we could land him for that.