It is too bad that all of this is going on. Brett was a great talent, a first ballot HOfer but he is not the future, is he! TT is molding this team for the next few years, rightly or wrongly??
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What I'm curious to know is how this affects the younger players on the Packers with Favre calling out Thompson. Is this going to jade them down the road where if they become All-Pro's that they feel entitled to play GM??
Although I understand Favre's frustration, I view it as him being selfish and wanting whatever gives him the best chance of winning. Thompson however views this as team sport and that stop gap measures may mean a few more wins any given year but do little for the long term health of the organization.
As Packer fans we all want victories and a shot at the Superbowl but all these voicings of Favre deserving TT's attention to supply him with weapons seems a bit misguided. Favre deserves our appreciation but does not a GM who will do whatever it takes for Favre to go out in a blaze of glory. Last I checked, Favre was getting a handsome check to play a game. He thrives on being the guy (I was in the Army with a guy in his college fraternity who suggested he was that way in college and although he may have matured with age it seems to fit his persona) and I agree with Patler's comments on that he's having a hard time swallowing an organization that is moving in a direction not centered around him. Sherman's continual attempts to cater to Favre's desire didn't lead us to the promised land and I've no reason to believe that an older Favre would lead us there even with Ahman Green and Randy Moss. Maybe I'm wrong there, then again who knows for sure.
Anyways, as the HOF QB of the organization and the undisputed leader of the team I expect more from him than throwing his GM under the bus. He's certainly entitled to his opinion but ultimately what is it serving to do other than act as a vent and drive further the polar views of Thompson fans and Thompson haters.
Nobody is above the team just as nobody should be above the law. Favre seems to often forget that.
It will be interesting to see if TT's rebuilding plan succeeds or fails. Given it's in year three we should know shortly. The one fear would be mediocrity and having wasted the final years of our HOF quarterback. Regardless, I don't believe any player earns a right to bash their organization unless they want to play elsewhere. If that's Favre's intent unfortunately I don't think he'll find the grass any greener elsewhere with a team aiming for the superbowl and taking on a 37 year old quarterback in an attempt to do so.60% of the time it works every time.
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If we did land Moss, would he have been the missing piece of the puzzle?
Not a chance. If we would have struggled, he would have been a malcontent in the lockerroom.
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How long was Matt Millen a player? What did it teach him about being a GM? There are lots and lots of HOF players in all sports who failed miserably as coaches, GMs and even owners.Originally posted by PackerBlues
Favre has been a Pro Athlete for half of his life. Half of his life for the Green and Gold. If one were not completely full of ones own self, one might think that Favre might have learned a thing or two about what it takes to field a winning team.
Favre's comments are undermining the team? No, they undermine Ted Thompson. Huge difference. I am more than sure that Brett understands how his comments come across, and the only person I see suffering from such comments is your beloved Ted Thompson. The ball is now in Thompsons court to respond. I am suprised it took Favre this long to say anything, I am glad that he spoke up. I seriously doubt that at this point Favre cares about being in a "confrontation" with Thompson. Whats teddy going to do? Cut him? Trade him? He doesnt have the balls!!!
TT has been involved in the NFL as a player and in various levels of scouting and football operations for a lot longer than Favre has. Maybe he too has learned a thing or two about what it takes to field a winning team. Perhaps he even knows more about it than Favre does because his experience is a lot more diverse. Being a great player doesn't make you a great coach or GM. Being an also-ran as player doesn't make you a bad GM or coach. Your god-given physical talent and abilities as a player are distinct from your acumen in judging talent and your wisdom and abilty to run a football operation.
Favre has been complaining for three years. He hasn't just now spoken up. His comments can undermine the team by casting it in a negative light in the eyes of other prospective FAs, by setting up controversy with those players who may not have wanted Moss and/or believe TT is doing things right, and by establishing a belief among the receivers, including the rookie receivers, that Favre doesn't think they are good enough or capable of getting the job done.
This shouldn't be a battle between TT and Favre. I hope TT doesn't let it degrade into that, and it doesn't have anything to do with courage or guts..
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I found one who was thirty-three when he took over, of course, the team he was on was already pretty good. How you doing?
Originally posted by pbmaxFind me the Super Bowl winner (or even consistent winner) that took an aging 34+ QB, built for now and had sucess.
Originally posted by PackerBluesHere we go again talking about the future. Favre is not the future of the GB Packers? Brilliant, what made you think that? Favre's age, or Ted Thompson's lack of respect for Favre? How much longer are we going to have to listen to people talk about how in the future, the Packers are going to be better because Ted Thompson is such a genius? If your subscriptin to "The Psychic Network" has not run out yet, please tell us all when exactly we can expect Thompsons brilliance to field a team that can score points.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Lynch mob? lolOriginally posted by Scott Campbell
Look at how the lynch mob here reacted.
I'd say Favre is the one getting lynched. Hope you all remember that during the season when he's giving it his all ........with ummm....oh yeah he and Driver.
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Originally posted by PackerBluesThats funny, here I thought I was defending Favre's right to speak out on an issue that affects him a great deal, and you see TT bashing.
Ummmmm......maybe that's because you are TT bashing.
Originally posted by PackerBlues........Brilliant, what made you think that? Favre's age, or Ted Thompson's lack of respect for Favre? ............. the Packers are going to be better because Ted Thompson is such a genius? ....................please tell us all when exactly we can expect Thompsons brilliance to field a team that can score points.
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Originally posted by GrnBay007Lynch mob? lolOriginally posted by Scott Campbell
Look at how the lynch mob here reacted.
I'd Favre is the one getting lynched. Hope you all remember that during the season when he's giving it his all ........with ummm....oh yeah he and Driver.
Favre get's pleny of love from me. I have no interest in seeing him lynched/traded/retired. But a gag rule might not be a bad thing.
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Complaining for three years is accurate. Publicly lobbying for six years is more telling, I believe.
Originally posted by PatlerFavre has been complaining for three years. He hasn't just now spoken up.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by pbmaxComplaining for three years is accurate. Publicly lobbying for six years is more telling, I believe.
Originally posted by PatlerFavre has been complaining for three years. He hasn't just now spoken up.
Oh well, call it publicly lobbying. You know what....everyone needs to do it. You can't even get proper medical care anymore unless you are your own advocate. More power to him.
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Originally posted by mrbojanglesWhat I'm curious to know is how this affects the younger players on the Packers with Favre calling out Thompson. Is this going to jade them down the road where if they become All-Pro's that they feel entitled to play GM??
That is exactly why you don't want players speaking out against the organization, regardless of their stature among the faithful.
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Everyone has their limits ...maybe he met his.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by GrnBay007Lynch mob? lolOriginally posted by Scott Campbell
Look at how the lynch mob here reacted.
I'd Favre is the one getting lynched. Hope you all remember that during the season when he's giving it his all ........with ummm....oh yeah he and Driver.
Favre get's pleny of love from me. I have no interest in seeing him lynched/traded/retired. But a gag rule might not be a bad thing.
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He could have said "I hoped for Randy Moss but things didn't work out that way"Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
There are so many things wrong with this post! How is Favre selfish? Favre voicing his opinion does not make him selfish. Plus he didn't totally rip the team, he still said the packers is a first class organization but they should of gotten Moss to help the team win. I don't see the problem in that. It just shows me how bad Favre wants to win and how he wants to bring a super bowl title back to GB before he's gone. But I guess that doesn't matter to you because you want him to retire.
After reading these articles I would also be mad if I was Favre. Favre said he would give up some of his salary so money wouldn’t be a problem and all the packers had to do was up the pick one round to get Moss.
He didn't have to say that it could have happened this way or that way publicly. I hope Thompson gets his chance to see this thing through despite Brett's clamouring. I hope the Packers flourish in the near future, including this season adn I think all of that is possible.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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