Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[RashanGary]

I've always admired Thompsons ability to refrain from desperate moves. You see so many teams like Cleveland in the NBA get a star and out of desperation they make stupid moves to build a winner quickly for the star. I don't know exactly what happened with Moss and despite Brett saying we could have had him for a 4th and whatever it was that Brett said for salary, I don't think it was the case.

Thompson may have messed up. He might have been able to get Moss for a reasonable deal but he's done a good overall job and missing out on an aging WR who relied on speed and explosion for one or 2 decent years when we're not going anywhere anyway doesn't really bother me at all. I can udnerstand it bothering Brett becasue he could have looked great going out but in the grand scheme this does very little in the way of lessening our chances at winning a SB some day. It's a much bigger loss to Brett than it is for the team and I could care less about Brett Favre so I"m not up in arms about this.

[pbmax]

Re: Favre

Does this mean we need to accept everything? Is there no space between worship/lifetime pass and taking it all for granted?

Well then we disagree. Favre earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say. He earned it by playing with injuries when NO ONE else in this league would have even tried. He earned it by having a career game on national tv after his father died. He has earned the right by giving us everything he has. It's very sad that people like you take these things for granted like it means nothing at all..........

[GrnBay007]

He wants to win. The QB is there. Why is it so bad to want to go out on a winning season?

There's a difference between wanting to win, and publically calling out your GM for being a dumbass. I don't mind him lobbying internally. I do mind him running his mouth in the press.

You don't hear the organization publically whining about Favre's stupid interceptions. Brett should show them the same courtesy.

Favre has showed nothing but loyalty to the Packer organization for 17 years. He's been a team player all the time. I don't believe him voicing his opinion was wrong.

[Scott Campbell]

The ball is now in Thompsons court to respond.

You really expect Ted to respond to this? I'd take that bet.

[pbmax]

If you like having Walker on the team, then yes it is bad. There is a difference between being right and having good timing. It also violated a pretty standard rule that you don't dump on a teammate trying to get paid.

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He called out Walker for not sticking to his contract.....is that bad?

He KNOWS he is no longer the future of the Green Bay Packers, and he can't stand it! He can't accept that they are actually planning to go on without him, drafting a QB for the future, building the base for the team for years from now, etc. Consequently, he seeks constant reaffirmation from the team that they still "love Brett Favre".

He wants to win. The QB is there. Why is it so bad to want to go out on a winning season?

[BallHawk]

[quote="GrnBay007"]

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He called out Walker for not sticking to his contract.....is that bad?/quote]

Even though we knew what Favre said was right, it isn't his business. I could understand him talking to Walker privately, but saying it in public was an extremely stupid thing to do.

Favre is a great guy, but sometimes he comes out with things that make you think "why did he say that." There are plenty of QBs that are disgruntled in the league, but that doesn't give them the right to speak out.

[Patler]

Re: Favre

Favre earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say. He earned it by playing with injuries when NO ONE else in this league would have even tried. He earned it by having a career game on national tv after his father died. He has earned the right by giving us everything he has. It's very sad that people like you take these things for granted like it means nothing at all..........

Having the right to do something doesn't mean that you should do it.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean that it is wise to do it.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean that it isn't detrimental to do it.

Sports annals are filled with stories of athletes playing with broken bones and serious injuries, not just Brett Favre. To say he played with injuries when "NO ONE else in this league would have even tried" is simply not true. Earl Dotson played for years with a back that was so bad it took him hours to lossen up just to be able to play. A few years back Marco Rivera continued playing for weeks when his leg and back were so bad that he couldn't play the whole game, yet he continued going out there week after week for however long he could last. Favre simply gets more notoriety because of his position and success. Favre is a tough son of gun. So was Lynn Dickey, so was Earl Dotson, so is Marco Rivera. So were the many, many players who continued to play with concussions and other serious injuries. Favre just gets more credit for it. Not all are like him, but he is not unique in that regard.

Yes, Brett Favre played the day after his father died. Didn't Nick Barnett do the same two years ago? How about what Jon Ryan did this year inspite of his fathers situation? My own Father died early one morning. I had to work that day and the next before the critical matters I was handling at the time could be stalled or assigned to others so I could leave. Sometimes in spite of your own feelings, your obligations to others who rely on you dictate what you do.

The adulation given Favre goes way overboard at times.

[Scott Campbell]

I don't believe him voicing his opinion was wrong.

Ok. So tell me then, what purpose does it serve?

[BallHawk]

The ball is now in Thompsons court to respond.

You really expect Ted to respond to this? I'd take that bet.

Wonder what the Vegas odds are on that one?

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Favre

To say he played with injuries when "NO ONE else in this league would have even tried" is simply not true.

Who has time for the truth when you're trying to rile up a lynch mob?

[BallHawk]

Re: Favre

Favre earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say. He earned it by playing with injuries when NO ONE else in this league would have even tried. He earned it by having a career game on national tv after his father died. He has earned the right by giving us everything he has. It's very sad that people like you take these things for granted like it means nothing at all..........

Having the right to do something doesn't mean that you should do it.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean that it is wise to do it.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean that it isn't detrimental to do it.

Sports annals are filled with stories of athletes playing with broken bones and serious injuries, not just Brett Favre. To say he played with injuries when "NO ONE else in this league would have even tried" is simply not true. Earl Dotson played for years with a back that was so bad it took him hours to lossen up just to be able to play. A few years back Marco Rivera continued playing for weeks when his leg and back were so bad that he couldn't play the whole game, yet he continued going out there week after week for however long he could last. Favre simply gets more notoriety because of his position and success. Favre is a tough son of gun. So was Lynn Dickey, so was Earl Dotson, so is Marco Rivera. So were the many, many players who continued to play with concussions and other serious injuries. Favre just gets more credit for it. Not all are like him, but he is not unique in that regard.

Yes, Brett Favre played the day after his father died. Didn't Nick Barnett do the same two years ago? How about what Jon Ryan did this year inspite of his fathers situation? My own Father died early one morning. I had to work that day and the next before the critical matters I was handling at the time could be stalled or assigned to others so I could leave. Sometimes in spite of your own feelings, your obligations to others who rely on you dictate what you do.

The adulation given Favre goes way overboard at times.

Once again Patler, you hit the nail on the head.

[pbmax]

Who is full of themselves?

Is T2 telling Favre who to throw to in 3 wides on 3rd and seven with the defense in cover 2?

Or is it the QB who thinks he is a GM?

Do you really believe that Favre is a better judge of talent than the GM?

If one were not completely full of ones own self, one might think that Favre might have learned a thing or two about what it takes to field a winning team.

[PackerBlues]

Here we go again talking about the future. Favre is not the future of the GB Packers? Brilliant, what made you think that? Favre's age, or Ted Thompson's lack of respect for Favre? How much longer are we going to have to listen to people talk about how in the future, the Packers are going to be better because Ted Thompson is such a genius? If your subscriptin to "The Psychic Network" has not run out yet, please tell us all when exactly we can expect Thompsons brilliance to field a team that can score points.

[RashanGary]

Who is full of themselves?

Is T2 telling Favre who to throw to in 3 wides on 3rd and seven with the defense in cover 2?

Or is it the QB who thinks he is a GM?

Do you really believe that Favre is a better judge of talent than the GM?

If one were not completely full of ones own self, one might think that Favre might have learned a thing or two about what it takes to field a winning team.

There is no room for perspective here.

[PackerBlues]

Re: Favre

Favre earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say. He earned it by playing with injuries when NO ONE else in this league would have even tried. He earned it by having a career game on national tv after his father died. He has earned the right by giving us everything he has. It's very sad that people like you take these things for granted like it means nothing at all..........

Having the right to do something doesn't mean that you should do it.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean that it is wise to do it.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean that it isn't detrimental to do it.

Sports annals are filled with stories of athletes playing with broken bones and serious injuries, not just Brett Favre. To say he played with injuries when "NO ONE else in this league would have even tried" is simply not true. Earl Dotson played for years with a back that was so bad it took him hours to lossen up just to be able to play. A few years back Marco Rivera continued playing for weeks when his leg and back were so bad that he couldn't play the whole game, yet he continued going out there week after week for however long he could last. Favre simply gets more notoriety because of his position and success. Favre is a tough son of gun. So was Lynn Dickey, so was Earl Dotson, so is Marco Rivera. So were the many, many players who continued to play with concussions and other serious injuries. Favre just gets more credit for it. Not all are like him, but he is not unique in that regard.

Yes, Brett Favre played the day after his father died. Didn't Nick Barnett do the same two years ago? How about what Jon Ryan did this year inspite of his fathers situation? My own Father died early one morning. I had to work that day and the next before the critical matters I was handling at the time could be stalled or assigned to others so I could leave. Sometimes in spite of your own feelings, your obligations to others who rely on you dictate what you do.

The adulation given Favre goes way overboard at times.

Once again Patler, you hit the nail on the head.

And of coarse, None of these guys that you mention playing through adversity ever looked at Favre for inspiration while doing it. Nailed it on the head? More like the blind leading the blind. Pat yourselves on the back some more.