Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[Scott Campbell]

Everyone has their limits ...maybe he met his.

Ok, so let's pretend for a moment that it's ok for him to do so. I'll ask this again. What purpose does it serve?

[Scott Campbell]

You know what....everyone needs to do it.

Ask yourself this. What would Vince do in this situation?


I think his handling of Jim Ringo may provide a clue.

[RashanGary]

Why in the hell should TT commit to a guy that is 37 years old and for the last three seasons hasn't made known his intentions for the following year till at least one month after the season and as long as four to five months after the season. Brett himself has had trouble committing to this team as of late.

That's his way of trying to force the GM's hand. I think the world of TT for doing what he believes is right despite the pressures from Brett Favre.

[GrnBay007]

What I'm curious to know is how this affects the younger players on the Packers with Favre calling out Thompson. Is this going to jade them down the road where if they become All-Pro's that they feel entitled to play GM??

That is exactly why you don't want players speaking out against the organization, regardless of their stature among the faithful.

I would guess plenty on the team would be backing him. They want to WIN too!

I'm not saying calling out the boss is completely right. But I do think that TT has had plenty of time and chances to bring in some players and has not done so. It was understandable when money was the issue.....doesn't seem to be the case now. Who can blame Favre for being upset? ......well, sorry, lots of PR members obviously.

[pbmax]

I agree on this point, about health care, education and a whole raft of services.

However, you and I pay for those services. Favre is getting paid by the people he is making demands of. The situation is reversed in his case.

Complaining for three years is accurate. Publicly lobbying for six years is more telling, I believe.

Favre has been complaining for three years. He hasn't just now spoken up.

Oh well, call it publicly lobbying. You know what....everyone needs to do it. You can't even get proper medical care anymore unless you are your own advocate. More power to him.

[b bulldog]

vINCE WOULD HAVE TRADED HIM YESTERDAY!!!!

[Rastak]

Oh oh, packinpatland just opened the door, you guys better scatter......

[Scott Campbell]

Who can blame Favre for being upset? ......well, sorry, lots of PR members obviously.

Well, it's beginning to look like there was more to it than that. He needs a scapegoat for his trade request, or he tarnishes his leagacy. Thompson is the convenient choice.

[GrnBay007]

Everyone has their limits ...maybe he met his.

Ok, so let's pretend for a moment that it's ok for him to do so. I'll ask this again. What purpose does it serve?

Well, being quiet didn't work, did it?

[Rastak]

Everyone has their limits ...maybe he met his.

Ok, so let's pretend for a moment that it's ok for him to do so. I'll ask this again. What purpose does it serve?

Well, being quiet didn't work, did it?

Not a bad retort. I think Scott was right though, his comments were intentional. For the record, I don't think they were that bad, but probably unwarrented unlass there was an ulterior motive....which now seems to be the case.

[falco]

Again, Favre doing this publicly just hurts everyone.

[PackerBlues]

He could have said "I hoped for Randy Moss but things didn't work out that way"

He didn't have to say that it could have happened this way or that way publicly. I hope Thompson gets his chance to see this thing through despite Brett's clamouring. I hope the Packers flourish in the near future, including this season adn I think all of that is possible.

So now its all about semantics? Since when have Packer fans become such pussies? Oh no! Brett Favre spoke up and told the truth......we could have had Randy Moss if Ted had actually tried. Big freakin deal. Its not as if the same thing hasnt been repeated over and over again in the media before Favre said it. But now that he has said it, it has become credible, and that is what bothers you guys the most. The simple fact that all this time you have all argued that "we just dont know what happened to make the deal fall apart". We just didnt have the "inside knowledge" to make any kind of a judgement either way. Well, now we know!
For anyone to worry about how all of this will look to our rookies, or to any free agents on the market is ridiculous! How politically correct do we have to become to worry about hurting the feelings of some rookie? Scaring off free agents? Who cares, if they are of any value what-so-ever, Thompson wouldnt sign them anyway. Especially if they play on offense.

Maybe the grass is not always greener on the other side, but with Thompson at the helm........we are never going to find out.

[GrnBay007]

I agree on this point, about health care, education and a whole raft of services.

However, you and I pay for those services. Favre is getting paid by the people he is making demands of. The situation is reversed in his case.

So in your job or career you have never had to lobby for yourself? Any time you put forth effort to move ahead you lobbying for yourself. Favre is trying to move ahead.....AKA winning record/championships.

[Patler]

Re: Favre

And of coarse, None of these guys that you mention playing through adversity ever looked at Favre for inspiration while doing it. Nailed it on the head? More like the blind leading the blind. Pat yourselves on the back some more.

Good gosh, those were just recent examples that came to mind. Playing through injuries and pain didn't begin with Brett Favre.

In the 1960s Jerry Kramer continued to play with excruciating pain and unexplained weight loss. It was finally determined, when he almost died, that he had a "sliver" about 6" or 8" long embedded in his gut. It was from a childhood accident when he fell and impaled himself on a fence post.

Ken Bowman played with a shoulder that was so bad they hooked a chain between his upper arm and chest to minimize the frequency of dislocations.

These are just some notable stories from the Packers that come to mind. I'm sure there are more. Other teams in football and in other sports have their own stories.

Dick Butkus played with knees so bad they say he could barely walk the day after games. These were common situations in the days before arthroscopic knee repairs.

Mike Webster continued to play after significant injuries and repeated consussions.

I don't think any of these took their inspiration from Favre.

[Scott Campbell]

Since when have Packer fans become such pussies?

Who cares, if they are of any value what-so-ever, Thompson wouldnt sign them anyway. Especially if they play on offense.

Once again, you add no value to this conversation.