Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[PackerBlues]

Does my post a couple days ago explaining that TT has invested more first day draft picks on the offense than on the defense not qualify? And that he signed 2 FAs that were former 1st round draft picks.

He drafted a QB in the first round
He signed 2 WRs that were former 1st picks.
He drafted 2 WRs in the second round.
He drafted 1 RB in the second round.
He drafted 1 WR in the third round
He traded for a RB drafted in the third round.
He drafted 1 WR in the 4th round.
He drafted 1 WR in the 5th round.
He drafted 1 RB in the 7th round.
He drafted 1 TE in the 7th round.

Now should we list the O-linemen?

He drafted a QB in the first round .............Aaron Rogers......it is nice to have somebody there to hold the clip board and keep the bench warm isnt it?

He signed 2 WRs that were former 1st picks. ........... When is Robinson going to contribute if ever? And please remind me as to whom the second is, cause for some reason I am having a hard time remembering who this big contribution to our offense is.


He drafted 2 WRs in the second round. ..........Greg Jennings makes for a great #3 reciever. However their is not a second reciever listed on the team besides Jennings who was picked in the second. (James Jones? Third)

http://www.packers.com/team/how_built/

He drafted 1 RB in the second round. ........... may as well draft a rb, he let Green go, why not replace him.

He drafted 1 WR in the third round ........see above.

He traded for a RB drafted in the third round. .........impressive!

He drafted 1 WR in the 4th round. ..........I am sure that he will prove to be a much better player than the guy we could have got with that pick.

He drafted 1 WR in the 5th round. .......... time to make up for letting Moss slip through his fingers. Brilliant.

He drafted 1 RB in the 7th round. ..........ok, you were already reaching, this is ridiculous.

He drafted 1 TE in the 7th round. ..........ugggg!

[pbmax]

The only player with inside info and on the record disagrees with Bretsky's and Harvey's version of events.

B&H believe it was the fourth rounder.

Favre believes it was the contract.

Could it be that none of them have the complete picture?

Well, now we know!

I don't think what Favre says is necessarily so. He might feel his pride knocked because Randy liked Tom better. It has a little scorned lover feel to it.

That said, I'm not all that upset about Moss anyway. It sounds like his body is falling apart and he hasn't been very productive in a few years.

Please; this had nothing to do with Moss liking anybody. Al Davis got a better offer from the Patriots and TT was not willing to give up a fourth rounder.........maybe the right call and maybe not.........who knows.

Favre really shouldn't have spoken up. Serves no purpose criticizing a GM, even if he was right.

I have no idea why the Plan of Ted Thompson would have ever included Favre in the first place

[Bretsky]

FROM JS

"On the night before the draft, the Packers thought they had a deal with the Raiders for a fifth-round pick, but New England stepped in and began making a strong pitch for Moss. Quarterback Tom Brady reportedly spent hours on the phone recruiting Moss, who eventually agreed to a one-year contract with the Patriots."

[pbmax]

Bretsky, this is also in the other thread, I'm not banging on you, just wanted you to see it.

from: http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"It is disappointing," Favre said. "It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true.

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

FROM JS

"On the night before the draft, the Packers thought they had a deal with the Raiders for a fifth-round pick, but New England stepped in and began making a strong pitch for Moss. Quarterback Tom Brady reportedly spent hours on the phone recruiting Moss, who eventually agreed to a one-year contract with the Patriots."

[Bretsky]

Bretsky, this is also in the other thread, I'm not banging on you, just wanted you to see it.

from: http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"It is disappointing," Favre said. "It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true.

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

FROM JS

"On the night before the draft, the Packers thought they had a deal with the Raiders for a fifth-round pick, but New England stepped in and began making a strong pitch for Moss. Quarterback Tom Brady reportedly spent hours on the phone recruiting Moss, who eventually agreed to a one-year contract with the Patriots."

That is interesting

I have TWO COMMENTS HERE

1. If Ted Thompson refused to part with a 4th round pick and hold to his guns, I can at least respect that.

2. If Ted Thompson truly lost Moss over $3,000,000 a year and Favre offered to give up part of his salary to guarantee this........if that's true
Then Ted Thompson REALLY f'cked this up.

Neither would surprise me I guess.

[Brainerd]

MM frantically calling Favre to calm him down tells us more about Rodgers than I care to know right now. With the offense so in question I don't want to think about Rodgers at QB until I absolutely must. If MM and TT wanted Favre gone they just missed their golden opportunity.

[pbmax]

I doubt either version is the entire truth. But its clear that Moss was playing one side against the other. Otherwise he would not have asked the Packers for guarantees that the Patriots weren't going to give him.

Bretsky, this is also in the other thread, I'm not banging on you, just wanted you to see it.

from: http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"It is disappointing," Favre said. "It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true.

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

FROM JS

"On the night before the draft, the Packers thought they had a deal with the Raiders for a fifth-round pick, but New England stepped in and began making a strong pitch for Moss. Quarterback Tom Brady reportedly spent hours on the phone recruiting Moss, who eventually agreed to a one-year contract with the Patriots."

That is interesting

I have TWO COMMENTS HERE

1. If Ted Thompson refused to part with a 4th round pick and hold to his guns, I can at least respect that.

2. If Ted Thompson truly lost Moss over $3,000,000 a year and Favre offered to give up part of his salary to guarantee this........if that's true
Then Ted Thompson REALLY f'cked this up.

Neither would surprise me I guess.

[Brando19]

http://espn.go.com/

The video is up now of Favre at his golf tournament criticizing the Pack.

[Bretsky]

http://espn.go.com/
The video is up now of Favre at his golf tournament criticizing the Pack.

After watching that video, my only views are...the truth really hurts.

I agree with Favre; we lost out.

That being said, I never thought TT would make this deal work anyways.

[Brando19]

http://espn.go.com/
The video is up now of Favre at his golf tournament criticizing the Pack.

After watching that video, my only views are...the truth really hurts.

I agree with Favre; we lost out.

That being said, I never thought TT would make this deal work anyways.

Hell yeah we lost out. Hell yeah.

[packers11]

He looks a lot older, he looks like he hasn't slept in a week ... T.T. I think he has your picture up on his dart board...

[Patler]

He drafted a QB in the first round .............Aaron Rogers......it is nice to have somebody there to hold the clip board and keep the bench warm isnt it?

He signed 2 WRs that were former 1st picks. ........... When is Robinson going to contribute if ever? And please remind me as to whom the second is, cause for some reason I am having a hard time remembering who this big contribution to our offense is.


He drafted 2 WRs in the second round. ..........Greg Jennings makes for a great #3 reciever. However their is not a second reciever listed on the team besides Jennings who was picked in the second. (James Jones? Third)

http://www.packers.com/team/how_built/

He drafted 1 RB in the second round. ........... may as well draft a rb, he let Green go, why not replace him.

He drafted 1 WR in the third round ........see above.

He traded for a RB drafted in the third round. .........impressive!

He drafted 1 WR in the 4th round. ..........I am sure that he will prove to be a much better player than the guy we could have got with that pick.

He drafted 1 WR in the 5th round. .......... time to make up for letting Moss slip through his fingers. Brilliant.

He drafted 1 RB in the 7th round. ..........ok, you were already reaching, this is ridiculous.

He drafted 1 TE in the 7th round. ..........ugggg!

He drafted WR Terrence Murphy in the second round. A career ending injury is hardly something you can expect TT to foresee.

You comment as if 2nd and 3rd round draft picks are nobodies. You can't have a team full of 1st round picks. He has drafted more offensive than defensive players on day 1 of the last three drafts. These are the players your team should be built around.

As far as the later picks, no they don't all pan out (neither do the early picks). But Driver, Tauscher, Kampman and Wells have. Maybe one of the more recent ones will too. TT is not ignoring the offense on Day 1 or Day 2 of the drafts.

[esoxx]

MM frantically calling Favre to calm him down tells us more about Rodgers than I care to know right now.

That's actually a pretty good point. I mean, what's the panic since you have a first round pick that has had the chance to sit back the last two years and absorb the offense and assimilate himself with the workings of the Packers and NFL. I'd think you'd be chomping at the bit to get the guy on the field, regardless of the circumstances. It does seem to send a less than favorable signal of Rodgers.

[falco]

MM frantically calling Favre to calm him down tells us more about Rodgers than I care to know right now.

That's actually a pretty good point. I mean, what's the panic since you have a first round pick that has had the chance to sit back the last two years and absorb the offense and assimilate himself with the workings of the Packers and NFL. I'd think you'd be chomping at the bit to get the guy on the field, regardless of the circumstances. It does seem to send a less than favorable signal of Rodgers.

Right, but who says MM was frantically calling Favre?

The article says "Coach Mike McCarthy immediately began trying to reach Favre by phone, but Favre ignored his calls for a week."

If you're starting QB has his agent call and say he wants to be traded, of course you're going to try to call him. But everyone is reading a lot into this.

[esoxx]

I actually am very interested in seeing Rodgers take over and play, whether it's this year or next (assuming Favre gets traded or retires, neither likely). When Rodgers does get his chance, it will answer a lot of the questions we as Packer fans have.

It will answer whether he can actually play a decent QB. It will answer whether TT was on the mark in evaluating him as a player and worthy of taking as his first choice as Packer GM. A lot more will come into focus.

Until Rodgers starts, TT buys himself more time imo, b/c we really don't know.