Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[Patler]

I honestly think Favre WANTS to retire, but he is afraid he will miss the game if he does. I've felt that way for several years. He is searching for an excuse to retire, so if at some point he wishes he hadn't retired, he can tell himself that he had no choice. He was forced to. Its simply a mechanism to deflect responsibility. It is not an uncommon mechanism that people use to do what they know they should, or have to, but wish it wasn't so.

No matter what Favre thinks he knows about the situation, it is doubtful that he knows all of the details. For that reason, it is just not a wise thing to do to speak out too much about it. Certainly he has the right to say whatever he wants about Moss, Walker, FAs the last two years, McKenzie a few years ago, and even more years ago about Sharpe. However, just because he has the right to do so doesn't mean it is a wise thing to do.

[GrnBay007]

Apparently everyone has forgotten that as recently as August 2005, in an interview with Bryant Gumbel, Moss admitted to smoking marijuana.

So when was it that this rehabilitated, grown-up, matured Randy Moss emerged?

Possession of marijuana is illegal and using marijuana is against NFL rules....fine. However, if this is the worst we can dig up on Moss the past two years, I'd say he admitted to something at least 50% + of NFL players do. And if anyone out there believes that none of our beloved current Packer team players never smoke marijuana please .........give me your telephone number to sell you some swamp land.

This can be debated forever. Lets just sit back and see what happens. Lets watch to see if we see headlines of Moss being suspended for illegal activity or drug use OR if we see headlines of Moss kicking ass in NE.

The guy is nearing retirement and wants a Super Bowl. I doubt he would do anything foolish to throw that away.

[Bretsky]

A few points

1. Brett Favre should not have said this stuff; regardless of my feelings about how the Moss scenario came down he should have kept quiet

but

2. Even the extremist TT defenders would be hard pressed to call Favre a liar about this (I'd ask Ziggy but she's on a cruise ).

He's a source that certainly would know a lot more about the exact situation than all of those ESPN guys who continued to quote "sources" and state them as fact. Sources said Moss would only renegotiate with NE. Sources said he preferred them, and then McKenzie said Moss went to NE becauase that is where he wanted to play. What a load of bunk.

3. Let's lay all this source crap to rest. Like it or not, bottom line was NE got it done and TT did not. NE was willing to give up a 4th and TT was not.

If you want to say TT didn't have the stones (that would be my view as well) or TT was smart or TT doesn't like giving up draft choices......all that is your own opinion.

Bottom line is NE made it happen.

And if you look at all my posts it went down just as I expected. I never expected TT to land Randy Moss.

[b bulldog]

Moss kicking ass in NE with talents such as Stallworth,Jackson,Washington,Maroney and Watson surrounding him will be no reflection on how he would have played in GB. Two totally different situations, the Pats are loaded, the Pack is not.

[b bulldog]

Agree with you B. I do think Moss would have rather played in New England than in GB. I think TT didn't pull the trigger here but I also think that there was many different things involved that made the deal happen in Newe England.

[RashanGary]

If NE misses the SB this year they are going to get old quick and they're running out of recources to patch it up.

I really hope the Colts have a stellar year. I want Manning to walk through and win it. I think they deserve it more than NE.

[GrnBay007]

Moss kicking ass in NE with talents such as Stallworth,Jackson,Washington,Maroney and Watson surrounding him will be no reflection on how he would have played in GB. Two totally different situations, the Pats are loaded, the Pack is not.

If that was in response to my post...I was only commenting on lets see if we hear positive or negative on Moss regarding behavior mainly VS productivity. That would be true no matter what team he is on. As far as productivity goes, I would guess we could see the same if he was playing with the Packers that we will see with NE.

[Patler]

Apparently everyone has forgotten that as recently as August 2005, in an interview with Bryant Gumbel, Moss admitted to smoking marijuana.

So when was it that this rehabilitated, grown-up, matured Randy Moss emerged?

Possession of marijuana is illegal and using marijuana is against NFL rules....fine. However, if this is the worst we can dig up on Moss the past two years, I'd say he admitted to something at least 50% + of NFL players do. And if anyone out there believes that none of our beloved current Packer team players never smoke marijuana please .........give me your telephone number to sell you some swamp land.

This can be debated forever. Lets just sit back and see what happens. Lets watch to see if we see headlines of Moss being suspended for illegal activity or drug use OR if we see headlines of Moss kicking ass in NE.

The guy is nearing retirement and wants a Super Bowl. I doubt he would do anything foolish to throw that away.

Let me reiterate, its not that he does it. I am absolutely sure there are players on every team that do the same.

However, by going on ESPN and in effect saying, "Yup, I do it. Gee, I hope the league doesn't care! I'm just a fun-loving guy and this is how I do it." he sets himself up as being above the law, above league rules. He simply doesn't care, and by admitting it seemingly doesn't care if he gets caught.

Don't read it for what he did, smoke a little dope, but for how he portrays it, himself and his responsibilities to the team and the league. He simply doesn't care.

[Patler]

Personally, I think Thompson blew this one. His rookies better be able to contribute early. Of course, Moss could be the broken down Moss of the last 2 years, but I would have easily taken a chance considering the low cost.

completely agree

With all due respect, at this time no one knows if TT blew it....or if NE did!

[Rastak]

Personally, I think Thompson blew this one. His rookies better be able to contribute early. Of course, Moss could be the broken down Moss of the last 2 years, but I would have easily taken a chance considering the low cost.

completely agree

With all due respect, at this time no one knows if TT blew it....or if NE did!

Well, after listening to Favre's comments I'm now leaning toward TT blew it.
The way that guy likes to trade down, he can afford a 3rd round pick (he'll just get another one by trading down).

And handing out weekly bonues is a very clever idea, but it only works if you hold most of the cards, any self respecting veteran not coming off a suspension or a major injury isn't gonna go for that. Hindsight is 20/20 but in retrospect, if he really wanted Moss he should have offered up a 3 and given Moss a fair amount of upfront money to burn some of this years cap.
That assumes he really wanted Moss in the first place.

[Scott Campbell]

TT totally blew this but the last thing the team needs is it's HOF QB whining about it.

I think I agree with Bulldog the most out of anything I've read here. You can't have your QB whining to the press about the one that got away. There is no constructive purpose whatsoever, other than to undermine the organization. And this should hold true regardless of how you feel about Moss.

[Scott Campbell]

Personally, I think Thompson blew this one. His rookies better be able to contribute early. Of course, Moss could be the broken down Moss of the last 2 years, but I would have easily taken a chance considering the low cost.

completely agree

With all due respect, at this time no one knows if TT blew it....or if NE did!

There's the old saying that the best trade might be the one that you don't make.

[Packnut]

Favre

It was only a matter of time before Brett spoke out. All hedid was say what most of the fans and NFL pundits have been saying, which is Thompson has given Brett no help.

Really this whole thing is not a complicated matter. The facts speak for themselves as far as where our RZ offense and points scored pg is ranked. We all know this offense has had problems scoring for 3 years. Thompson had the cash and there were moves he could have made. He did nothing.

IF we have trouble scoring again, then TT has no excuses and neither do his backers. He knew what the problems were and it's HIS JOB to fix them. That is after all what a GM is paid to do. If our offense can score, than he was right and should be rewarded with a contract extension. I'm more than willing to let this season say all we need to know about our GM.

[GrnBay007]

Let me reiterate, its not that he does it. I am absolutely sure there are players on every team that do the same.

However, by going on ESPN and in effect saying, "Yup, I do it. Gee, I hope the league doesn't care! I'm just a fun-loving guy and this is how I do it." he sets himself up as being above the law, above league rules. He simply doesn't care, and by admitting it seemingly doesn't care if he gets caught.

Don't read it for what he did, smoke a little dope, but for how he portrays it, himself and his responsibilities to the team and the league. He simply doesn't care.

I understand that and I also have negative feelings for those who believe they are above the law. And I agree with the NFL drug rules and policies. I'm not condoning the use of drugs by NFL players in any way....but I do believe sometimes a persons priorities can change and they may no longer enjoy being portrayed in a negative fashion. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I would guess that the non-media, more quiet Moss we've seen the last two years is now more focussed on getting to the SB than he is with the drama of the old days.

[BallHawk]

What does Brett hope to accomplish by saying this? Does he think that Randy is suddenly gonna say "I don't want to be a Patriot. I want to be a Packer" and then TT will trade for Moss? It's in the pass, we don't know the details, we never will, and pointing fingers causes nothing but trouble.

Myself, I would say I'm a TT supporter. I'm not going to rush to defend his every move, but I think what he does is right. It's stupid for people to say reasons for not having Moss like "Randy Moss ran over a traffic cop" or "he smokes pot" because, quite frankly, if he was on the Packers none of you would care about those things. Calvin Johnson smoked weed, does that mean you wouldn't take him for a 4th rounder? You'd have images of Favre bombing balls to Moss for TDs, but now you don't. Now, however, since he is not a Packer people try to find a way to make it feel like it is alright we didn't get him. They find excuses, they try to rationalize the situation.

I'm alright that we didn't get Moss, he is aging and he isn't exactly a locker room leader, but he would of helped this team. Whether he would of come here, I don't know, but you can spin any way you want. However, the true answer remains; Randy Moss would of helped the Packers. Whether it would of been for 2 years of 5 years, he would of helped us. We'll see how he does with the Pats, but this is something we're gonna look back on in 5 years and say either "Boy, glad we didn't get that guy" or "Damn, we should of had 'em." What we say will be down to Randy, not Ted.