Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[GrnBay007]

Re: Favre

IF we have trouble scoring again, then TT has no excuses and neither do his backers. He knew what the problems were and it's HIS JOB to fix them. That is after all what a GM is paid to do. If our offense can score, than he was right and should be rewarded with a contract extension. I'm more than willing to let this season say all we need to know about our GM.

Amen to that!!!!

[Scott Campbell]

On Moss, I think I agree with Ras most. His biggest transgression was quitting on his team. He has a higher probability of becoming a locker room cancer than most. I'm not sure that would keep me from making that trade.

I'm just not sure Moss has much left in the tank. He hasn't been Randy Moss for what, like 3 years now? The guy in Oakland was an imposter. It's reported that he doesn't take care of his body. And his game was built around the types of skills that typically detiorate quickly with age - speed and explosive leaping ability.

So I wouldn't have made the trade. Though I'm sort of half way between being against the trade and being on the fence about it because the pick was relatively low.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Favre

All hedid was say what most of the fans and NFL pundits have been saying.............

He's not a fan.
He's not a pundit.

He's a paid employee of the organization, and is held to a different standard than fans and pundits. Try calling your employer out next week in a trade rag and see how well that goes over.

[GrnBay007]

Hindsight is 20/20 but in retrospect, if he really wanted Moss he should have offered up a 3 and given Moss a fair amount of upfront money to burn some of this years cap.
That assumes he really wanted Moss in the first place.

LOL ...there you go.

[HarveyWallbangers]

To be fair, my opinion on this would have depended on more than a one year contract with Moss. For this team, I would have had to get a longer committment to trade any pick for him.

[GrnBay007]

TT totally blew this but the last thing the team needs is it's HOF QB whining about it.

I think I agree with Bulldog the most out of anything I've read here. You can't have your QB whining to the press about the one that got away. There is no constructive purpose whatsoever, other than to undermine the organization. And this should hold true regardless of how you feel about Moss.

QB's make statements frequently regarding drafts and FA's. I would never think Favre would say something to undermine the organization...he's always been about the team. I can understand his frustration with the current situation but maybe this was not the right time to voice that. I do agree with what he said though.

[Patler]

Re: Favre

All hedid was say what most of the fans and NFL pundits have been saying.............

He's not a fan.
He's not a pundit.

He's a paid employee of the organization, and is held to a different standard than fans and pundits. Try calling your employer out next week in a trade rag and see how well that goes over.

Yup! People tend to forget that Brett favre is NOT the GB Packers. They were a successful organization with ups and downs before he came, they have been a successful organization with ups and downs while he has been with them; and they will continue as an organization, hopefully successful, with ups and downs after he retires.

Thirty years from now the vast majority of the most rapid Packers will have no more recollection for or appreciation of Brett Favre than many have today for Don Hutson, Bart Starr or Paul Hornung. Heck, a lot of fans have no recollection of Lynn Dickey and all that he provided as the Packer QB.

It won't be all that long before, to many fans, Favre will simply be a name in the record book who couldn't possibly have been as great as their current hero. I'm not sure Favre is willing to accept that, but it is inevitable.

[Scott Campbell]

Hindsight is 20/20 but in retrospect, if he really wanted Moss he should have offered up a 3 and given Moss a fair amount of upfront money to burn some of this years cap.
That assumes he really wanted Moss in the first place.

LOL ...there you go.

That's an important piece of info on Moss. He's been shopped for an eternity, only to bring a 4th rounder in return. A lousy stinking 4th rounder?

What does that tell you about the professional personnell people in the NFL when Randy fetches only a 4th rounder? Shermy gave up more for R-Kal.

B might tell you that at the time of a transaction, a house is only worth what a buyer and seller agree to on a selling price. So Randy was only worth a 4th rounder at this particular point in time. He might end up being worth more later if it pans out, or less/nothing if it doesn't. But at this point of time, he's a 4th rounder. And I can't get real worked up one way or the other over a 4th rounder.

[GrnBay007]

True Packer fans have an appreciation for all the greats and that will continue...including Favre.

[Rastak]

To be fair, my opinion on this would have depended on more than a one year contract with Moss. For this team, I would have had to get a longer committment to trade any pick for him.

I hear ya but TT seems to have loads of picks every year, so you wouldn't miss it much anyway.

[pbmax]

I don't want to rain on anyone's self-pity parade, but if this statement is true, then the salary he wanted from Green Bay was more than what he got in New England. I don't believe he has any guaranteed money in his New England deal. My apologies if I have jumped the thread and this is a repeat.

“He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn’t enough, either.”

[GrnBay007]

That's an important piece of info on Moss.

He might end up being worth more later if it pans out, or less/nothing if it doesn't.

Just like every single draft pick TT has made....except Moss has quite a bit of history.

[Scott Campbell]

I would never think Favre would say something to undermine the organization...

Yet that is exactly what he just did.

Possible explanations:

1) It was an emotional reaction and not well thought out. I don't buy it, because it's 2 weeks after the fact. This appears to be a calculated move.

2) He wants a trade, and a public scapegoat in Thompson. That looks somewhat plausible to me.

I haven't yet thought of any other plausible motives for this kind of behavior.

[GBRulz]

I won't quote the entire article that you posted from pft, Rastak, but the 2nd article was interesting. "Davidphx" is Brett's pilot and long-time friend, so I would have to assume his comments hold some water as to being truthful.

In all honesty, I just don't see what Brett speaking out about this was supposed to accomplish. After hearing it though, I see the whole moss situation as a TT failure. Maybe that was his purpose, I dunno.

[Rastak]

I would never think Favre would say something to undermine the organization...

Yet that is exactly what he just did.

Possible explanations:

1) It was an emotional reaction and not well thought out. I don't buy it, because it's 2 weeks after the fact. This appears to be a calculated move.

2) He wants a trade, and a public scapegoat in Thompson. That looks somewhat plausible to me.

I haven't yet thought of any other plausible motives for this kind of behavior.

I hope packinpatland doesn't hunt me down for this but while Favre isn't stupid, he also isn't someone you'd invite to a think tank either. I don't think he gave it alot of thought before he started talking.