Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[GrnBay007]

I haven't yet thought of any other plausible motives for this kind of behavior.

How about it's simply the TRUTH!

....and that doesn't mean he's undermining the organization.

[Scott Campbell]

I don't want to rain on anyone's self-pity parade.......

I think this comment is very perceptive, but I'm not so sure it's self pity. I see it as more of a lynch mob mentality, with a few ring leaders trying to rile up the rest of the crowd with a bunch of inflamatory comments and hyperbole. It's almost like watching an old western, where more often than not they hung the wrong guy.

[Patler]

TT totally blew this but the last thing the team needs is it's HOF QB whining about it.

I think I agree with Bulldog the most out of anything I've read here. You can't have your QB whining to the press about the one that got away. There is no constructive purpose whatsoever, other than to undermine the organization. And this should hold true regardless of how you feel about Moss.

QB's make statements frequently regarding drafts and FA's. I would never think Favre would say something to undermine the organization...he's always been about the team. I can understand his frustration with the current situation but maybe this was not the right time to voice that. I do agree with what he said though.

Favre is 37 years old, has been part of sports teams all his life and has been a pro for nearly half his life. A 17-year employee in any job that has public influence on his employer should understand the ramifications of what he says and does. Favre has set himself up in controntation to TT, and he knows it. Unless he is really, really unintelliigent, he did it on purpose, for whatever his reasons.

Favre has been a great QB, that does not mean he knows anything about running a team. His repeated off-season negative comments last year and this about what the Packers are doing does undermine the team to at least some extent, and I will not pretend that it doesn't.

I have dealt with pro athletes. For all their god-given physical talent, it seems like the vast majority sacrificed or were not given common sense.

[pbmax]

I don't think I am extemist, but I'll take a shot at calling Favre on "gilding the lily". He can't claim with a straight face that a (partially) guaranteed contract from the Packers is LESS than a non-guaranteed contract with the Patriots. I think there is a chance Favre got played.

2. Even the extremist TT defenders would be hard pressed to call Favre a liar about this (I'd ask Ziggy but she's on a cruise ).

[Scott Campbell]

I haven't yet thought of any other plausible motives for this kind of behavior.

How about it's simply the TRUTH!

....and that doesn't mean he's undermining the organization.

Well the truth might include a bad case of jock itch. Yet he doesn't call a press conference to bitch about that. Every organization has dirty laundry it doesn't want made public.

Complaining about the roster and not getting this trade done falls squarely in the "undermine" catagory as far as I'm concerned. No good to the organization can come from these comments.

[gbpackfan]

I am sick to my stomach reading these articles. TT blew it, plain and simple. If you can't see that, then you are living in a fantasy land. The offense has lost pieces, not gained them. We are going to have A LOT of trouble scoring points this year. Good work TT. You fucking idiot!!!!

[Scott Campbell]

I don't think he gave it alot of thought before he started talking.

I could see this if he made the comments on draft day, or the day after. But the 2 weeks make this appear to be premeditated. A calculated move/ploy.

[Scott Campbell]

I am sick to my stomach reading these articles. TT blew it, plain and simple. If you can't see that, then you are living in a fantasy land. The offense has lost pieces, not gained them. We are going to have A LOT of trouble scoring points this year. Good work TT. You fucking idiot!!!!

See my previous lynch mob comments.

[BallHawk]

I haven't yet thought of any other plausible motives for this kind of behavior.

How about it's simply the TRUTH!

It's also the truth that Cory Rodgers was a horrible pick and Adrian Klem and Matt O'Dwyer were horrible FA pickups. Does that give Favre the right to go up on a podium and declare that they suck and the GM is a moron for picking them up?

I'm sorry, Favre is a Packer great, but he is not above the team. If any other players said this we'd be saying "they should keep their mouth out of this." Favre, though more talented, is a player of the Green Bay Packers. In terms of being an employee, because that's what these players are, he is no more important than Noah Herron or Will Blackmon. I think that he sees himself as being more important than the rest of the team. If he has that idea, he is sorely mistaken.

[RashanGary]

Favre is the most selfish, me first athlete I've watched closely and it's not even close.



I'd feel pretty good about a Favre retirement right now. He's a decent QB at this time with a big time me first attitude and 2 years at most in front of him. If he wants to retire, I'd be just as much of a Packer fan and just as excited as if he stays.

Just because Favre says something is so, doesn't make it so. His mouth has been chirping controversy for a long time. Every big time drama has Brett right in the middle. If it's the player who is making it hard on Brett like with Walker, Brett will stab the player in the back. If it's the organization making it hard on Brett, Favre will stab them in the back. I wouldn't want to work with Brett Favre. You always feel like you mgiht be the next guy to get back stabbed if you don't do it his way.

[GrnBay007]

I haven't yet thought of any other plausible motives for this kind of behavior.

How about it's simply the TRUTH!

....and that doesn't mean he's undermining the organization.

Well the truth might include a bad case of jock itch. Yet he doesn't call a press conference to bitch about that. Every organization has dirty laundry it doesn't want made public.

Maybe Favre felt it was time. He's been hung out on a line for what, 3 yrs. now?

I'm done voicing opinion on this. I'm on that band wagon that says TT has done very little/nothing to upgrade this offense. I hope some of his O draft picks will shine.....we can all hope.

[Bretsky]

Re: Favre

IF we have trouble scoring again, then TT has no excuses and neither do his backers. He knew what the problems were and it's HIS JOB to fix them. That is after all what a GM is paid to do. If our offense can score, than he was right and should be rewarded with a contract extension. I'm more than willing to let this season say all we need to know about our GM.

Amen to that!!!!

Amen as well

Bottom line is NE was willing to give up a fourth
Ted Thompson was only willing to part with a fifth

As I said many times before this went down I never felt like TT would have the stones to give up a pick and make this move

[GrnBay007]

Favre is the most selfish, me first athlete I've watched closely and it's not even close.

Please tell me you are joking?

[GBRulz]

Any good ideas on custom tshirt designs (slogans) that I could wear to mini-camp next weekend?

[pbmax]

1. Addition by subtraction folks. People would not given up on Moss if he hadn't given up on them.

2. EVERY year someone is viewed as the offseason champion. That team is gone by the first round of the playoffs. See Raiders, Redskins, Vikings (sorry Rastak). This year it will be the 49ers, Cardinals and Patriots.

3. It always ends badly or it wouldn't end. Marino blamed Jimmy Johnson and his receivers. Remember him yelling and staring at the offending receivers who dared miss the ball? Young was forced out byh concussions while all the time maintaining he could have still played. Montana was traded. Namath played for the Rams and Unitas played for the Chargers.

If Favre wanted it his way, he either needed to retire early OR become a scout on his way to the GM chair.

T2 may be wrong, but he's got the job title. Reading devious personal motives into each move ignores the simpler reality. The Packers needed to rebuild, Favre or no.