Favre asked to be traded

[PackerBlues]

I'm a little surprised people are defending this behavior. If any other player threatened to take their ball and go home because of some personnell move that didn't go down, most of us would speak out against the player. I guess there's a double standard. Right and wrong isn't right and wrong if Brett's involved.

Your suprised people are defending Brett Favre? Where in the hell have you been the last 17 years and what team have you been watching?

What suprises me is how far people will go to defend Thompson with little or no real arguement.

Again, I ask all of you : What has Thompson done to improve our offense in the 3 years he has been at the helm?

Do not tell me about how he has improved the offensive line through the draft, because anyone can easily argue that some of our O-linemen simply have their starting jobs by default.

Aaron Rogers is the only Offensive player TT has taken in the first round. Big help that was.

Not one decent free agent picked up by Thompson to improve our offense. You hacks keep saying that if the guy doesnt fit our system, then we should not sign him. But golly gee.......isnt that why we have a coaching staff? Or do you think that M3 isnt a good enough coach to teach a free agent veteran our "system"?

You can look at what NE did for Brady. Thats simple enough, but how about what the Colts have done to keep their offense competitive?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=602430

Indianapolis president Bill Polian and Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson run the NFL draft for their respective teams. But how the two men treat their franchise quarterbacks is like night and day. Polian has consistently given Peyton Manning one toy after another. The differences in approach is one reason the Colts are the defending Super Bowl champions, while Green Bay is 12-20 in the past two seasons.

Consider, when the Colts lost franchise running back Edgerrin James in free agency two years ago, Polian used his first-round draft choice on running back Joseph Addai. When Green Bay lost Ahman Green this off-season, Thompson used his first-round pick on a defensive tackle.

Since 2003, Polian has also selected tight end Dallas Clark - a blossoming player - and wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez in Round 1. Polian's intent was to provide Manning with all the necessary weapons to keep the Colts' offense near the top of the NFL.

Thompson, meanwhile, has orchestrated three drafts in Green Bay and reserve quarterback Aaron Rodgers is the only offensive player he's taken in the first round. In addition, Thompson traded away wide receiver Javon Walker - arguably the most gifted receiver Favre ever had - on the first day of the 2006 draft.

Now, when the 2007 season begins, the biggest question surrounding the Packers is how will they score points?

[RashanGary]

Moss is playig with a better QB and a better team. HE WANTS A CHAMPIONSHIP, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!

I agree.

[mmmdk]

KFFL
Packers | Favre asked to be traded before the draft
Sun, 13 May 2007 09:08:18 -0700

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre's agent, Bus Cook, phoned general manager Ted Thompson within two to three days of the draft and asked for a trade, according to several team and league sources. The sources said Cook railed off how his client was fed up with the organization and wanted out. Head coach Mike McCarthy tried phoning Favre, but the quarterback ignored all off his calls for a week. The two finally connected in the middle of this past week, and sources close to the situation said Favre asked McCarthy if he was aware that Cook asked for a trade. McCarthy immediately insisted that would not happen. McCarthy told others inside the organization he had cooled Favre's anger. By the end of the conversation, Favre admitted he did not want to go elsewhere. However, Favre has told friends on other teams he is frustrated with the organization's failure to acquire WR Randy Moss, who was traded to the New England Patriots.

Favre has cooled of. Favre will either retire or play for the Packers. I believe that much is certain.

[RashanGary]

Everyone in the media has been saying Moss wanted to win the SB and play with the greatest QB. That must feel like a slap in the face to Favre who seems unable to concied that he is no longer the guy everyone wants to play with.

This reaks of damage control on Favre's ego.

[Scott Campbell]

Where in the hell have you been the last 17 years and what team have you been watching?

I've been in Antarctica for the last 17 years filming a PBS documtary on Penguin reproduction.

Did I miss anything?

[RashanGary]

Favre has cooled of. Favre will either retire or play for the Packers. I believe that much is certain.

I believe this. Favre accomplished 2 things with his pouting.

1. He has an excuse if he doesn't perform
2. He made it clear that Randy would have liked to have played with him just as much as Tom Brady *His ego wouldn't allow people to think that publicly*

[Brando19]

Where in the hell have you been the last 17 years and what team have you been watching?

I've been in Antarctica for the last 17 years filming a PBS documtary on Penguin reproduction.

Did I miss anything?

Yes...Ted Thompson shot the Packers organization to hell.

[Scott Campbell]

Yes...Ted Thompson shot the Packers organization to hell.

So what the hell happened to Lindy Infante?

[Brando19]

Yes...Ted Thompson shot the Packers organization to hell.

So what the hell happened to Lindy Infante?

36-60 record with an 0-1 record in the Playoffs. I believe TT wants to hire him as head coach if McCarthy doesn't work out.

[Bretsky]

I'm sure Brett was pissed because he really wanted Moss, he phoned him for weeks, he knew he could be had for cheap, Thompson kind of strung him along by showing interest, and then wouldn't even offer a 4th round pick for a guy that Favre thinks could help him contend for a championship. Favre never said publicly he wanted a trade--although I'm sure he let the team know that he was pissed. McCarthy seems to have squashed the trade request. Overblown. This isn't the usual case of a player wanting out because of money. Put yourself in Brett's shows. It would be tough. He REALLY likes Moss. Thought he was the difference between maybe making the playoffs and maybe contending for one last Super Bowl run. He went out of his way to recruit him. Then, they lost him because Thompson offered only a 5th--instead of a 4th. I'd probably be pissed too. Favre sometimes goes a little overboard, but I'm betting that once he sees Jones and Clowney, he'll tell everybody how great those guys are and how this will be the best receiving corps he's ever thrown to.

Great Post Harvey; 4th rounder; most teams would wipe their ass with a fourth rounder. Last year it brought us Cory Rodgers

[pbmax]

We need to get our stories straight about what T2 did and did not do. Harvey is claiming Thompson didn't offer a fourth. That rumor made it into the paper. The rumors for weeks were thatthe Packers were offering EXACTLY a fourth.

Silverstein has the Packers with no chance to counter the Patriots offer after they upgraded the contract and pick.

Then Packers wanted to do a two year deal. Then Favre says Moss wanted his GB money guaranteed.

Everyone, including Harvey, thinks Thompson got played. I think it looks like Favre got played, used as a stalking horse to up the Patriots offer.

I'm sure Brett was pissed because he really wanted Moss, he phoned him for weeks, he knew he could be had for cheap, Thompson kind of strung him along by showing interest, and then wouldn't even offer a 4th round pick for a guy that Favre thinks could help him contend for a championship. Favre never said publicly he wanted a trade--although I'm sure he let the team know that he was pissed. McCarthy seems to have squashed the trade request. Overblown. This isn't the usual case of a player wanting out because of money. Put yourself in Brett's shows. It would be tough. He REALLY likes Moss. Thought he was the difference between maybe making the playoffs and maybe contending for one last Super Bowl run. He went out of his way to recruit him. Then, they lost him because Thompson offered only a 5th--instead of a 4th. I'd probably be pissed too. Favre sometimes goes a little overboard, but I'm betting that once he sees Jones and Clowney, he'll tell everybody how great those guys are and how this will be the best receiving corps he's ever thrown to.

[Bretsky]

Everyone in the media has been saying Moss wanted to win the SB and play with the greatest QB. That must feel like a slap in the face to Favre who seems unable to concied that he is no longer the guy everyone wants to play with.

This reaks of damage control on Favre's ego.

Funny that you keep spinning Ted Thompson's failure to land Moss back to Favre.

Thompson offered a 5th
New England offered a 4th

Right or wrong it's that simple.

All of the rest of the Moss this and Moss that came about after the trade was made. If TT had the stones to get the deal done, we'd be hearing stories of how Moss always wanted to play in.....with........yadayadayada

[Scott Campbell]

Everyone, including Harvey, thinks Thompson got played. I think it looks like Favre got played, used as a stalking horse to up the Patriots offer.

Wow. That is an interesting angle on this. Clever and effective.

[pbmax]

And if Harvey is right, why did Favre say it was the three million in guarantees that caused the deal to fall through?

If Favre's knowledge of the deal is that detailed, I think he can discriminate between a fourth round pick and a three million dollar guarantee.

[falco]

Right or wrong it's that simple.

Bretsky, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I've seen so many conflicting stories about what was offered, or what happened, etc, that I think its unfair to say "its that simple" at this point.