Favre asked to be traded

[pbmax]

Bretsky, Favre himself, who is closer to the situation than you, me, Silverstein or Glazer said it was the contract.

Why do you believe rumors when your QB says its the contract?

Everyone in the media has been saying Moss wanted to win the SB and play with the greatest QB. That must feel like a slap in the face to Favre who seems unable to concied that he is no longer the guy everyone wants to play with.

This reaks of damage control on Favre's ego.

Funny that you keep spinning Ted Thompson's failure to land Moss back to Favre.

Thompson offered a 5th
New England offered a 4th

Right or wrong it's that simple.

All of the rest of the Moss this and Moss that came about after the trade was made. If TT had the stones to get the deal done, we'd be hearing stories of how Moss always wanted to play in.....with........yadayadayada

[Bretsky]

Bretsky, Favre himself, who is closer to the situation than you, me, Silverstein or Glazer said it was the contract.

Why do you believe rumors when your QB says its the contract?

Everyone in the media has been saying Moss wanted to win the SB and play with the greatest QB. That must feel like a slap in the face to Favre who seems unable to concied that he is no longer the guy everyone wants to play with.

This reaks of damage control on Favre's ego.

Funny that you keep spinning Ted Thompson's failure to land Moss back to Favre.

Thompson offered a 5th
New England offered a 4th

Right or wrong it's that simple.

All of the rest of the Moss this and Moss that came about after the trade was made. If TT had the stones to get the deal done, we'd be hearing stories of how Moss always wanted to play in.....with........yadayadayada

Maybe I misread something, but I read that TT only offered a 5th and then NE swooped in with a better offer ??

[cpk1994]

I'm a little surprised people are defending this behavior. If any other player threatened to take their ball and go home because of some personnell move that didn't go down, most of us would speak out against the player. I guess there's a double standard. Right and wrong isn't right and wrong if Brett's involved.

Your suprised people are defending Brett Favre? Where in the hell have you been the last 17 years and what team have you been watching?

What suprises me is how far people will go to defend Thompson with little or no real arguement.

Again, I ask all of you : What has Thompson done to improve our offense in the 3 years he has been at the helm?

Do not tell me about how he has improved the offensive line through the draft, because anyone can easily argue that some of our O-linemen simply have their starting jobs by default.

Aaron Rogers is the only Offensive player TT has taken in the first round. Big help that was.

Not one decent free agent picked up by Thompson to improve our offense. You hacks keep saying that if the guy doesnt fit our system, then we should not sign him. But golly gee.......isnt that why we have a coaching staff? Or do you think that M3 isnt a good enough coach to teach a free agent veteran our "system"?

You can look at what NE did for Brady. Thats simple enough, but how about what the Colts have done to keep their offense competitive?

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=602430

Indianapolis president Bill Polian and Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson run the NFL draft for their respective teams. But how the two men treat their franchise quarterbacks is like night and day. Polian has consistently given Peyton Manning one toy after another. The differences in approach is one reason the Colts are the defending Super Bowl champions, while Green Bay is 12-20 in the past two seasons.

Consider, when the Colts lost franchise running back Edgerrin James in free agency two years ago, Polian used his first-round draft choice on running back Joseph Addai. When Green Bay lost Ahman Green this off-season, Thompson used his first-round pick on a defensive tackle.

Since 2003, Polian has also selected tight end Dallas Clark - a blossoming player - and wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez in Round 1. Polian's intent was to provide Manning with all the necessary weapons to keep the Colts' offense near the top of the NFL.

Thompson, meanwhile, has orchestrated three drafts in Green Bay and reserve quarterback Aaron Rodgers is the only offensive player he's taken in the first round. In addition, Thompson traded away wide receiver Javon Walker - arguably the most gifted receiver Favre ever had - on the first day of the 2006 draft.

Now, when the 2007 season begins, the biggest question surrounding the Packers is how will they score points?

I know what what I have seen for 17 years. And just because he will be enshrined in the HOF doesn't give him permission to throw a temper tantrum and act like an unprofessional jerk.

You want to bash TT because he didn't take offensive skill players in the first round? How many did Ron Wolf take and give to Favre? That would be just Bubba Franks. How many did Mike Sherman take? Javon Walker. Two offensive skill players in 14 years previous to TT! As a matter of fact Wolf was horrid with his first round picks and most of his big finds were in rounds 3 to 5. You can improve your offense without the first round thank you very much.

What did TT do to improve the offense? I will say the OL because they have filled holes even if they did get their jobs by default. They are defintely an improve over what they replaced: a broken down Flanagan and a couple of never would bes Wittacker and Klemm. I also think that Jennings will be a very good WR, and Jackson and be a very fine addition as a RB.

As for Walker, that one has beaten to death so no need to go over that one yet again.

It's obvious that you never like TT and will use Lord Favre to get your point across And god forbid anybody criticize your saint for the crybaby he is. I didn't think it was possible for Favre to make my opinion of him even lower than last year at this time, but he has managed to do so.

[pbmax]

from: http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"It is disappointing," Favre said. "It was a done deal and the stories of how we lost him because he didn't want to restructure his contract were not true.

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

Bretsky, Favre himself, who is closer to the situation than you, me, Silverstein or Glazer said it was the contract.

Why do you believe rumors when your QB says its the contract?

Everyone in the media has been saying Moss wanted to win the SB and play with the greatest QB. That must feel like a slap in the face to Favre who seems unable to concied that he is no longer the guy everyone wants to play with.

This reaks of damage control on Favre's ego.

Funny that you keep spinning Ted Thompson's failure to land Moss back to Favre.

Thompson offered a 5th
New England offered a 4th

Right or wrong it's that simple.

All of the rest of the Moss this and Moss that came about after the trade was made. If TT had the stones to get the deal done, we'd be hearing stories of how Moss always wanted to play in.....with........yadayadayada

Maybe I misread something, but I read that TT only offered a 5th and then NE swooped in with a better offer ??

[Bretsky]

On the night before the draft, the Packers thought they had a deal with the Raiders for a fifth-round pick, but New England stepped in and began making a strong pitch for Moss. Quarterback Tom Brady reportedly spent hours on the phone recruiting Moss, who eventually agreed to a one-year contract with the Patriots.---JS

[Brando19]

From PFT:

At a time when all NFL eyes were watching the drama that was unfolding between the Eagles and quarterback Donovan McNabb, a full-blown crisis was quietly playing out in another NFC town.

Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that Packers quarterback Brett Favre asked to be traded in the days after the 2007 draft.

Per Glazer, agent Bus Cook called G.M. Ted Thompson two or three days after the draft and said that Favre is fed up with the organization and wants out. Coach Mike McCarthy immediately began trying to reach Favre by phone, but Favre ignored his calls for a week.

When the two men finally spoke, McCarthy apparently calmed Favre's fury to the point that Favre admitted he didn't want to play elsewhere. But given Favre's recent comments to the Biloxi Sun Herald, about which we wrote earlier on Sunday, it appears that Brett still has a bug buried in his butt.

This latest development meshes with rumors floated on Favre's official web site by a message board administrator. (Scroll down for more.) It also seems that confirm what many league insiders have long believed -- that Favre doesn't care much for G.M. Ted Thompson, who has done little if anything to upgrade the veteran talent on the team over the past three years.

Glazer says that the Packers have no plans to trade Favre, whose contract (per NFLPA records) runs through 2010 and pays him a base salary of $11 million this year. But why would they want him if he doesn't want to be there? And if they won't trade him, maybe he'll just call it quits and let them try to win with (gulp) Aaron Rodgers.

In our view, this one is far from over. And we have a feeling that either Favre or Thompson won't be with the team when the 2007 season begins.

[falco]

I was actually excited to get Moss simply because I thought it would make the team interesting to watch this year. I couldn't say one way or the other if he would be able to contribute or not.

Now it seems like NOT getting Moss is going to make for a much more interesting year...

[Bretsky]

In our view, this one is far from over. And we have a feeling that either Favre or Thompson won't be with the team when the 2007 season begins.


I don't buy this for a second.

The Snappers on a solid lili pad on a pond without waves so he's not falling off.

And at this point I doubt he moved Favre either.

[Brando19]

I was actually excited to get Moss simply because I thought it would make the team interesting to watch this year. I couldn't say one way or the other if he would be able to contribute or not.

Now it seems like NOT getting Moss is going to make for a much more interesting year...

and by interesting you mean....hair pulling, nerve racking, hoping nothing terrible happens such as the Pack trading Favre and starting Rodgers year?

[falco]

I was actually excited to get Moss simply because I thought it would make the team interesting to watch this year. I couldn't say one way or the other if he would be able to contribute or not.

Now it seems like NOT getting Moss is going to make for a much more interesting year...

and by interesting you mean....hair pulling, nerve racking, hoping nothing terrible happens such as the Pack trading Favre and starting Rodgers year?

I suppose there are different types of "interesting"; some that are good, others...well, not so much.

[rbaloha1]

No Moss

TT is rebuilding the Pack due to Sherman's moronic drafting (ie Donnel Washington, Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, BJ Sander, James Lee, etc.) and personnel moves (remember Terry Glenn for a 7th round pick, Joe Johnson, Cleditius Hunt, R-Kal Truluck, etc.).

So far, Ted drafts has brought solid football players akin to the Seahawks. Free agency resulted in Charles Woodson albeit probably more busts (ie Klemm, O'Dwyer, Taylor, Allen, Maynard) Trading and pickups resulted in Morency and Robinson.

On balance, imo, TT has done a wonderful job positioning the Packers for the super bowl. However the failure to procure Moss may be significant.

Ron Wolf made bold moves for Brett Favre, Keith Jackson, Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Andre Rison, Don Bebee, Eugene Robinson, Bruce Wilkerson and Ron Cox which resulted in playoff and super bowl teams.

TT overly anal approach to the draft cost us Moss. RW says big deal if you over pay for a player that can help your team immediately. IMO Moss is the type of player (ie Reggie White, Keith Jackson, Andre Rison) that places the Packers in the super bowl hunt.

Only time will tell -- if we win the super bowl -- all is forgotten. Failure to reach or proceed deep into the playoffs means a critical analysis of TT's personnel decisions.

[Bretsky]

Re: No Moss

TT is rebuilding the Pack due to Sherman's moronic drafting (ie Donnel Washington, Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, BJ Sander, James Lee, etc.) and personnel moves (remember Terry Glenn for a 7th round pick, Joe Johnson, Cleditius Hunt, R-Kal Truluck, etc.).

So far, Ted drafts has brought solid football players akin to the Seahawks. Free agency resulted in Charles Woodson albeit probably more busts (ie Klemm, O'Dwyer, Taylor, Allen, Maynard) Trading and pickups resulted in Morency and Robinson.

On balance, imo, TT has done a wonderful job positioning the Packers for the super bowl. However the failure to procure Moss may be significant.

Ron Wolf made bold moves for Brett Favre, Keith Jackson, Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Andre Rison, Don Bebee, Eugene Robinson, Bruce Wilkerson and Ron Cox which resulted in playoff and super bowl teams.

TT overly anal approach to the draft cost us Moss. RW says big deal if you over pay for a player that can help your team immediately. IMO Moss is the type of player (ie Reggie White, Keith Jackson, Andre Rison) that places the Packers in the super bowl hunt.

Only time will tell -- if we win the super bowl -- all is forgotten. Failure to reach or proceed deep into the playoffs means a critical analysis of TT's personnel decisions.

great post

[falco]

Re: No Moss

TT is rebuilding the Pack due to Sherman's moronic drafting (ie Donnel Washington, Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, BJ Sander, James Lee, etc.) and personnel moves (remember Terry Glenn for a 7th round pick, Joe Johnson, Cleditius Hunt, R-Kal Truluck, etc.).

So far, Ted drafts has brought solid football players akin to the Seahawks. Free agency resulted in Charles Woodson albeit probably more busts (ie Klemm, O'Dwyer, Taylor, Allen, Maynard) Trading and pickups resulted in Morency and Robinson.

On balance, imo, TT has done a wonderful job positioning the Packers for the super bowl. However the failure to procure Moss may be significant.

Ron Wolf made bold moves for Brett Favre, Keith Jackson, Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Andre Rison, Don Bebee, Eugene Robinson, Bruce Wilkerson and Ron Cox which resulted in playoff and super bowl teams.

TT overly anal approach to the draft cost us Moss. RW says big deal if you over pay for a player that can help your team immediately. IMO Moss is the type of player (ie Reggie White, Keith Jackson, Andre Rison) that places the Packers in the super bowl hunt.

Only time will tell -- if we win the super bowl -- all is forgotten. Failure to reach or proceed deep into the playoffs means a critical analysis of TT's personnel decisions.

You're exactly right. If Moss puts up huge numbers and the Pats take another one home, it may be the beginning of the end for TT. If Moss pulls his same ol crap, TT will have been proven right. But no one will know until the end of the year.

And what do you think TT will get more of? Praise if he is right, or criticism if he is wrong?

[woodbuck27]

I won't believe this until my ears hear Brett admit asking for a trade or being frustrated with Ted Thompson. The last thing I heard Brett say is that he likes the young guys and that he thinks the team has alot of talent.

Loudmouth malcontent receivers don't win championships. Great defense, Solid QB play, and an excellent running game do. Brett knows that.

''I won't believe this until my ears hear Brett admit asking for a trade or being frustrated with Ted Thompson. The last thing I heard Brett say is that he likes the young guys and that he thinks the team has alot of talent.'' fr.above

This is where I am on this latest rumpr.

I certainly can understand if Favre is pissed though.He wants to win and as a Packer fan so do I.

[packers11]

You're exactly right. If Moss puts up huge numbers and the Pats take another one home, it may be the beginning of the end for TT. If Moss pulls his same ol crap, TT will have been proven right. But no one will know until the end of the year.

And what do you think TT will get more of? Praise if he is right, or criticism if he is wrong?

Your exactly right... If Moss goes and has another stellar year, I think T.T. will panic... This panic might make him overpay for MOSS (next year when he is a FA) or overpay for someone else... Maybe T.T. won't get the chance, because he will be gone... This year will be very interesting, T.T's fate is on Moss's stats now...