Favre, Thompson, Rogers. The End.

[PackerBlues]

PB, showing me a small list of good, aging players that we lost is far less important than the good, young players we've added.

Now, Thompson did attempt to please his lady with some unconventional ideas I know he wasn't exactly easy on the lube but I also have some vision and I see where it's all heading I think you know what I'm trying to say

ummmm........actually, I dont have a clue what you are trying to say......in fact, your scaring me.

[Rastak]

PB, showing me a small list of good, aging players that we lost is far less important than the good, young players we've added.

Now, Thompson did attempt to please his lady with some unconventional ideas I know he wasn't exactly easy on the lube but I also have some vision and I see where it's all heading I think you know what I'm trying to say

ummmm........actually, I dont have a clue what you are trying to say......in fact, your scaring me.

Ummm, it's vintage JH....and yes, at times it can be scary.

[swede]

The Optimistic Realists are back!

Next meeting Saturday, August 18th.

Bretsky is fined three Brownie Points for excessive brooding but remains a member in good standing since FA concerns are protected under the Defensible Realism Act of 2005.

[PackerBlues]

PB, showing me a small list of good, aging players that we lost is far less important than the good, young players we've added.

Now, Thompson did attempt to please his lady with some unconventional ideas I know he wasn't exactly generous with the lube but I also have some vision and I see where it's all heading I think you know what I'm trying to say

OK, let me take a stab at this. are you trying to say that Thompson tried to please Packer fans (his lady?)by telling us he was not rebuilding(unconventional ideas?) ........ while bending our Offense over and F#@#ing it in the A$$ with out the courtesy of lube or a reach around ? And that someday, we will all look back at what Ted has done as a good thing??

Am I close?

[Bretsky]

The Optimistic Realists are back!

Next meeting Saturday, August 18th.

Bretsky is fined three Brownie Points for excessive brooding but remains a member in good standing since FA concerns are protected under the Defensible Realism Act of 2005.

The Defensive Realism Act of 2005; LMAO. That's a good one. Kudos

[wpony]

I said give him some time when he started. this is his year if at the end of this year we are not challenging for the playoffs it will be time to look at a replacement. I dont post very much but I do read this board every day and enjoy all of your company. I do believe the packers have improved in many places ,but I really dont understand why he has not helped the offence more.

[RashanGary]

OK, let me take a stab at this. are you trying to say that Thompson tried to please Packer fans (his lady?)by telling us he was not rebuilding(unconventional ideas?) ........ while bending our Offense over and F#@#ing it in the A$$ with out the courtesy of lube or a reach around ? And that someday, we will all look back at what Ted has done as a good thing??

Am I close?

EXACTLY!!

I probably misphrased, he is using lube otherwise I'm pretty sure there is no chance that it will be looked back upon as a good thing

[Carolina_Packer]

As a GM, you're probably always building, but towards what?

We are building towards having a winning/contending team again.

When we get there, how will the team continue to be built (assuming the best happens and Thompson's plan works)?

Do you keep trading down and amassing more and more draft picks like he has the past three drafts, or do you think that curtails once we solidify more and more positions and the strategy changes as we have less holes to fill?

I assume we're always going to have the UFA's after the draft and at various times throughout the year. The diamonds in the rough.

Do you think TT's methods of selecting talent will change as the team gets away from "rebuilding mode" (not saying we're done, just curious what you all think).

[RashanGary]

He talked her into it by saying it wouldnt' hurt too badly (we're not rebuilidng)

He then proceeded to hurt the hell out of her, however, he knew it was in her best interest becuase she'll see how good things get after the initial pain investment is over.

[Joemailman]

As a GM, you're probably always building, but towards what?

We are building towards having a winning/contending team again.

When we get there, how will the team continue to be built (assuming the best happens and Thompson's plan works)?

Do you keep trading down and amassing more and more draft picks like he has the past three drafts, or do you think that curtails once we solidify more and more positions and the strategy changes as we have less holes to fill?

I assume we're always going to have the UFA's after the draft and at various times throughout the year. The diamonds in the rough.

Do you think TT's methods of selecting talent will change as the team gets away from "rebuilding mode" (not saying we're done, just curious what you all think).

In every draft TT has conducted, he has ended up with more picks than he went in with. I suspect that won't change. There could be certain situations where he would deviate from that, but not often.

[Bretsky]

As a GM, you're probably always building, but towards what?

We are building towards having a winning/contending team again.

When we get there, how will the team continue to be built (assuming the best happens and Thompson's plan works)?

Do you keep trading down and amassing more and more draft picks like he has the past three drafts, or do you think that curtails once we solidify more and more positions and the strategy changes as we have less holes to fill?

I assume we're always going to have the UFA's after the draft and at various times throughout the year. The diamonds in the rough.

Do you think TT's methods of selecting talent will change as the team gets away from "rebuilding mode" (not saying we're done, just curious what you all think).

In every draft TT has conducted, he has ended up with more picks than he went in with. I suspect that won't change. There could be certain situations where he would deviate from that, but not often.

agree at this point

[RashanGary]

I had a big list of about 15 young players earlier in this thread. They are all good players now, but they'll be better players tomorrow and they'll need to get paid. That is the core of our team and the hard workers on that list will be rewarded with pay days. We have a lot of space now, but if TT's guys pan out, it's going to get hard to afford them some day. EVentually there will be a climax of talent. This is the year year the climb should start.

[Brainerd]

Focusing only on someones failures would make any man look bad. Write a book on Bill Belichicks tenure in Cleveland and the man looks like a bozo, if you fail to mention the rest of his career. Thomps has keep #4 in a Packer jersey,He brought in Woodson to give the Pack a top tandem at corner.He drafted Hawk. He has put together a top tier defense. The Pack went 5-1 in they're division last season.
The Pack had one wheel in the ditch under sherman and righting the course takes time.
Thats why I'm waiting and seeing for one more season.

Not to single you out but can we all just agree that anyone and I mean even someone like me who is not very adept at picking college talent would have picked Hawk at 5. Thompson is not allowed credit for Hawk. Sorry. I'm just tired of TT getting credit for the Hawk pick. It was a no brainer. Hawk is a beast and everyone knew it.

I agree on Belechick. He was Cleveland's Mike Sherman.

[wist43]

PB, showing me a small list of good, aging players that we lost is far less important than the good, young players we've added.

Now, Thompson did attempt to please his lady with some unconventional ideas I know he wasn't exactly generous with the lube but I also have some vision and I see where it's all heading I think you know what I'm trying to say

OK, let me take a stab at this. are you trying to say that Thompson tried to please Packer fans (his lady?)by telling us he was not rebuilding(unconventional ideas?) ........ while bending our Offense over and F#@#ing it in the A$$ with out the courtesy of lube or a reach around ? And that someday, we will all look back at what Ted has done as a good thing??

Am I close?

Great stuff man... I was going to lob a grenade or two at JH, but this is pretty entertaining stuff.

[wist43]

I had a big list of about 15 young players earlier in this thread. They are all good players now, but they'll be better players tomorrow and they'll need to get paid. That is the core of our team and the hard workers on that list will be rewarded with pay days. We have a lot of space now, but if TT's guys pan out, it's going to get hard to afford them some day. EVentually there will be a climax of talent. This is the year year the climb should start.

Hawk
Collins
Rodgers
Jennings
Poppinga
Spitz
Colledge
Moll
Woodson
Pickett
Jolly
Jenkins
Kampman
Barnett
Jackson
Harris extend
Driver extend
Crosby
Ryan even looks good now
Jones
We didn't draft Huff

You can't say that these guys are good players. Some of them are good, some of them show potential; but, relative to teams that have playoff/SB calibur rosters - this list doesn't get us close.

Entirely too many people have anointed Colledge and Spitz as being potential world beaters - they are both substandard G's at this point. We all see the potential for upside there, but is that pro bowl potential??? I don't see that.

Collins and Jennings have flashed, but there's a huge chasm between flashing ability, and putting it on display on an every day basis.

Rodgers has convinced me of nothing... his moving the ball against burger flippers does not put me all atwitter.

All TT has accomplished to this point, in the zero sum game, is to jettison two pro bowl calibur players in their prime, and bring in a ton - several tons actually - of young guys; and, out of that multitude, TT is hoping some will turn out.

TT has done some good things, but this team is woefully underpowered compared to the elite teams in the league. They have a long way to go.