What to do about the gays?

[Deputy Nutz]

Because it's friggin' wrong, nutz. Basta!

Well I disagree. So far you tell me it is wrong but even in the last thread that refered to this topic you wouldn't put your finger on it, you wouldn't explain your reasoning why it is wrong, so please do tell all of your lovely stereotypes of gays.

[Deputy Nutz]

Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt kids, but if they want to live together that is their business.

Why, do they have some kind of disease?

I think gays raising children in this country is the least of our worries, but go on concerning yourself about gays raising children above all the fatherless children out there, and all the children that are sexually and physically abused by fathers. Gee, I don't know what is worse.

I've always been right in line with gays shouldn't get to raise children or adopt simply because it exposes children to ridicule at school, things too big for young children to understand, and an unnatural environment. I don't think pointing out bigger problems in other areas is an arguement FOR exposing children to this.

That being said, I am all for civil unions, if John and Bob want to build a life together they should be afforded all the rights of a married couple. To allow them to MARRY is to change the definition of the word, and marriage is founded in church, so I respect that side of it.

I guess my wife and I are not "married" because we were wed outside of any religious ceremony. Great! I guess you should be the one to tell her that, I am not.

So you are against giving a child a loving home because he will be made fun of? Maybe they should only allow gay couples to wed and raise children in New England States where making fun of someone is illegal.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt kids, but if they want to live together that is their business.

well, that's mighty white of ya, LL2! Might be too much work for the police to force them into separate appartments anyway.

[hoosier]

What to do about the gays?

Harlan, why not just condense your recent threads into one? It would ask: Who's happier (less miserable), Bush supporters or gays? Not to say, of course, that one can't be the other.

[Scott Campbell]

...........so please do tell all of your lovely stereotypes of gays.

Well, they're snappy dressers.

[Deputy Nutz]

...........so please do tell all of your lovely stereotypes of gays.

Well, they're snappy dressers.

True so at least their kids would be outfitted with extremely nice clothes and footwear.

[bobblehead]

Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt kids, but if they want to live together that is their business.

Why, do they have some kind of disease?

I think gays raising children in this country is the least of our worries, but go on concerning yourself about gays raising children above all the fatherless children out there, and all the children that are sexually and physically abused by fathers. Gee, I don't know what is worse.

I've always been right in line with gays shouldn't get to raise children or adopt simply because it exposes children to ridicule at school, things too big for young children to understand, and an unnatural environment. I don't think pointing out bigger problems in other areas is an arguement FOR exposing children to this.

That being said, I am all for civil unions, if John and Bob want to build a life together they should be afforded all the rights of a married couple. To allow them to MARRY is to change the definition of the word, and marriage is founded in church, so I respect that side of it.

I guess my wife and I are not "married" because we were wed outside of any religious ceremony. Great! I guess you should be the one to tell her that, I am not.

So you are against giving a child a loving home because he will be made fun of? Maybe they should only allow gay couples to wed and raise children in New England States where making fun of someone is illegal.

Now its quite a stretch to say I said or even implied that. I said marriage as an institution HISTORICALLY was founded in and by church. I do not discount any marriage that was performed by a judge (or even your brother, in your eyes you and your wife are married and my opinion matters very little).

What I said is, that gays deserve all the rights of a married couple but to change the definition of marriage I can understand being against (i personally don't care) given the origin and history of the institution of marriage.

As far as being against giving them a loving home....I didn't say that either, a child molester could argue he loves a child therefore deserves to adopt one, but I doubt you would even consider that for a second. I am saying that homosexual unions are not the norm, either societally or by nature and to allow them to adopt is unfair to the child. Said child is being exposed to something not the norm and being forced to deal with it at far too early of an age. Many studies show that children growing up in a normal household end up better adjusted/happier/more successful ect.

My general view of marriage in general is pretty out their anyway, it was an institution designed to basically give women security. It is a very outdated concept and the idea of state/church backed marriage to me is kinda silly. If you love your wife and are committed to spending your life with her a piece of paper isn't going to mean a hill of beans to either of you. My opinion on whether it should be considered "marriage" because of who performed the ceremony should matter even less.

The main reason gays are fighting for gay marriage is to further public acceptance, and I think they are going about it the wrong way. It is simply aggravating some people who think they have rights and should be treated fairly, into actually being combative again. (i'm not one of those people, again, I don't care) I only care about children being raised in as good an environment as possible to make them well adjusted adults.

[Deputy Nutz]

So Because gay marriage and child raising isn't the norm it shouldn't be allowed? There was a time and still many think this way that marriage and child raising should be done between a man and woman of the same race, and anything outside of that wasn't considered the norm. Times change, what is considered normal in society changes.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

"Said child is being exposed to something not the norm and being forced to deal with it at far too early of an age."

I totally agree. We should also ban interfaith marriage as well. Not the norm. And, not black/white marriage either...not the norm.



As for children being exposed to ridicule...all children get teased. That is part of being a child. If they aren't teasing you because you have two dads, they'll find another...the clothes you wear, your looks, your last name, etc.

Part of growing up is learning to deal with teasing...at least it was before all you conservative PC types started trying to make wimps outta children.

[Harlan Huckleby]

To allow them to MARRY is to change the definition of the word, and marriage is founded in church, so I respect that side of it.

I agree that marriage is founded in religion. So why is the state conferring marriages?

I think people should have the option of being married according to the rules of their church or wiccan coven, or having a CIVIL union performed by our CIVIL government.

[MJZiggy]

"Said child is being exposed to something not the norm and being forced to deal with it at far too early of an age."

I totally agree. We should also ban interfaith marriage as well. Not the norm. And, not black/white marriage either...not the norm.



As for children being exposed to ridicule...all children get teased. That is part of being a child. If they aren't teasing you because you have two dads, they'll find another...the clothes you wear, your looks, your last name, etc.

Part of growing up is learning to deal with teasing...at least it was before all you conservative PC types started trying to make wimps outta children.

There was a kid in my kid's school being raised by a lesbian couple and I gotta tell you, not only was that a very well adjusted child, the rest of the kids really didn't give a flying f*ck about it. And both of the parents helped with the PTA, activities and all that kind of stuff. They did a far better job with their kid than the parents of the kid who thought it was ok to choke another child with a jump rope when she didn't get her way...

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Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt kids, but if they want to live together that is their business.

Why, do they have some kind of disease?

I think gays raising children in this country is the least of our worries, but go on concerning yourself about gays raising children above all the fatherless children out there, and all the children that are sexually and physically abused by fathers. Gee, I don't know what is worse.

I've always been right in line with gays shouldn't get to raise children or adopt simply because it exposes children to ridicule at school, things too big for young children to understand, and an unnatural environment. I don't think pointing out bigger problems in other areas is an arguement FOR exposing children to this.

That being said, I am all for civil unions, if John and Bob want to build a life together they should be afforded all the rights of a married couple. To allow them to MARRY is to change the definition of the word, and marriage is founded in church, so I respect that side of it.

I guess my wife and I are not "married" because we were wed outside of any religious ceremony. Great! I guess you should be the one to tell her that, I am not.

So you are against giving a child a loving home because he will be made fun of? Maybe they should only allow gay couples to wed and raise children in New England States where making fun of someone is illegal.

How loving can a home be if the child resents the hell out of his two parents for the choices that they made?

Homosexual is not natural. I don't have a problem with it, but to think marriage should be allowed is ridiculous. Marriage started out as a religious ceremony.

a Homosexual couple should not be able to raise children because it teaches them the wrong message. Then again, with 50+% of families divorced I guess the right message has been blown out of the water long ago.

Why didn't you get married in a church?

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"Said child is being exposed to something not the norm and being forced to deal with it at far too early of an age."

I totally agree. We should also ban interfaith marriage as well. Not the norm. And, not black/white marriage either...not the norm.



As for children being exposed to ridicule...all children get teased. That is part of being a child. If they aren't teasing you because you have two dads, they'll find another...the clothes you wear, your looks, your last name, etc.

Part of growing up is learning to deal with teasing...at least it was before all you conservative PC types started trying to make wimps outta children.

Whoa whoa whoa... back up.. beep beep beep...

Make wimps out of children?

You're telling me two homos are going to produce more manly and less wimpy children than a heterosexual couple?

The libs and their accept everyone and teasing attitude is what makes kids whimpy. Note that all the emo pussies who go around touting their barack obama flags.

[Partial]

"Said child is being exposed to something not the norm and being forced to deal with it at far too early of an age."

I totally agree. We should also ban interfaith marriage as well. Not the norm. And, not black/white marriage either...not the norm.



As for children being exposed to ridicule...all children get teased. That is part of being a child. If they aren't teasing you because you have two dads, they'll find another...the clothes you wear, your looks, your last name, etc.

Part of growing up is learning to deal with teasing...at least it was before all you conservative PC types started trying to make wimps outta children.

There was a kid in my kid's school being raised by a lesbian couple and I gotta tell you, not only was that a very well adjusted child, the rest of the kids really didn't give a flying f*ck about it. And both of the parents helped with the PTA, activities and all that kind of stuff. They did a far better job with their kid than the parents of the kid who thought it was ok to choke another child with a jump rope when she didn't get her way...

One of my good friends was raised by 4 lesbians. Odd situation, but he turned out to be a good guy, but isn't very driven and is not going to college or anything like that. Anyway, he was a good kid, but he missed out on a lot of stuff in his childhood because he wasn't an active participant in school activities because his parents didn't want to make their business everyone elses and make the life harder on the kid.

He missed out.

[MJZiggy]

That's far less likely to happen today, because the kids really just don't give a shit. The people I knew were very active in school and their kid didn't miss out on a thing.