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  • #61
    Originally posted by MJZiggy
    Originally posted by ThunderDan
    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
    Originally posted by Partial
    Originally posted by Freak Out
    Major circle jerk going on here.......

    Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?
    Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

    If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.
    this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

    The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.
    Nutz-

    Let's set this straight right now once and for all.

    The stimulus check that some of you got this summer (not me) is a refund of your 2008 taxes that you won't be getting on April 15th 2009. The stimulus check was a tax cut. A lowering of the tax brackets. It should make all conservatives happy that it happened.

    You are going to have to enter on your 2008 tax return if you got the refund or not. That way the IRS will know if you get the refund when you file the return or if you already got it.
    The stimulus check is listed as income, right? Doesn't that mean they're taxing your tax refund? (and ostensibly possibly putting you in a higher bracket if you're on the edge?) Thanks, George.
    No, the stimulus check is a return of your tax dollars. It is not listed as income. You are going to have to probably check a box so the IRS knows if you got the refund or not.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    • #62
      Oh. Ok, that's better. April is going to suck.
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #63
        Baah

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        • #64
          Originally posted by wist43
          Aunt Ida who draws the SS check, Farmer Ed who draws the crop subsidy, Abortion Sally who gets funds from HHS to convince your pregnant teen to chop her baby up, the corrupt CEO who cashes the golden parachute check handed to him by the government as the stock of his company plummets.
          Good stuff, wist. You and I agree a lot more on politics than the Packers.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #65
            "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."


            Gee Whiz cant we just anoint him for the next eight years?
            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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            • #66
              I like the Obama's idea of making the middle class larger, by bringing down the upper middle and raising the lowest middle.

              Let the really rich stay that way, they deserve it way,way more than the upper middle anyways(they really do have more ambition and drive than anyone making $100-200,000/yr)
              Baah

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              • #67
                Barry's gonna looooose-Barry's gonna looose.....
                Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Originally posted by arcilite
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Well, do you have any evidence to the contrary? My parents have tax documentation from the clinton years and the bush years... I'll give you one guess as to when they were taxed more.

                  /pdf/SmallBusinessFINAL.pdf+obama+small+business+plan&h l=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
                  Yeah, because I'm really going to believe what he says now. Anyone can talk. Few people walk. Clinton talked and talked and talked about low taxes. Then he passed the biggest increase in taxation ever. Will Obama? That remains to be seen. But, history is surely not in his favor.
                  served.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by sheepshead
                    Barry's gonna looooose-Barry's gonna looose.....
                    Don't think so... he's leading popular vote and destroying mccain in the electoral vote.
                    I am better looking than you.

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                    • #70
                      you'll see. People are starting to pay attention to the BS, the hate and the cute antics and they are disgusted by it.
                      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by arcilite
                        Originally posted by sheepshead
                        Barry's gonna looooose-Barry's gonna looose.....
                        Don't think so... he's leading popular vote and destroying mccain in the electoral vote.
                        I'm not sure who is going to win...but I think it will be pretty darn close. Whoever wins will win by 30 electoral votes or less. Also, you can win the popular vote, but still lose. It has happened 3 times in U.S. history.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by sheepshead
                          you'll see. People are starting to pay attention to the BS, the hate and the cute antics and they are disgusted by it.
                          The hate? You mean people shouting 'kill him!' 'treason!' at Mccain/Palin rallies when they bring up Obama?
                          I am better looking than you.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by arcilite
                            Originally posted by sheepshead
                            you'll see. People are starting to pay attention to the BS, the hate and the cute antics and they are disgusted by it.
                            The hate? You mean people shouting 'kill him!' 'treason!' at Mccain/Palin rallies when they bring up Obama?
                            never happened. as per the secret service, not some idiot reporter.
                            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by arcilite
                              Originally posted by sheepshead
                              you'll see. People are starting to pay attention to the BS, the hate and the cute antics and they are disgusted by it.
                              The hate? You mean people shouting 'kill him!' 'treason!' at Mccain/Palin rallies when they bring up Obama?
                              The same person who shouted this crap delivered Lobster and caviar to Obama's hotel room.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by mraynrand
                                Originally posted by arcilite
                                Originally posted by sheepshead
                                you'll see. People are starting to pay attention to the BS, the hate and the cute antics and they are disgusted by it.
                                The hate? You mean people shouting 'kill him!' 'treason!' at Mccain/Palin rallies when they bring up Obama?
                                The same person who shouted this crap delivered Lobster and caviar to Obama's hotel room.
                                that made me lol
                                I am better looking than you.

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