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awesome. here's a followup if you're on facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordan...50524639115846
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I knew the guy would take a bunch of crap from people but it's obvious that he loves his daughter, loves her enough to kick her butt when she needs it.Originally posted by gbgary View Postawesome. here's a followup if you're on facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordan...50524639115846
Hopefully the light will come on in the girl's brain and she will start to appreciate the life and family that she has.
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I'm sure she will start to appreciate it. I think her behavior is completely normal for a 15-year-old trying to begin to grow herself away from her parents. I think the point he was trying to make was fine, but I think shooting her computer was a little extreme. I'd have just taken my kid's computer to work and given him an educational program on kids who actually have shitty lives (because there are plenty of them) until I saw a change in attitude."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Agreed. How much better it would have been to donate her computer to a day care center for adults or children, a head start program, women's shelter, Girls/Boys Club, etc. Lots of better options than destroying it, while still taking it away from their daughter on a permanent basis. Show her a better purpose for her computer rather than simply destroying it.Originally posted by MJZiggy View PostI think the point he was trying to make was fine, but I think shooting her computer was a little extreme. I'd have just taken my kid's computer to work and given him an educational program on kids who actually have shitty lives (because there are plenty of them) until I saw a change in attitude.
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A YouTube video posted on her Facebook page of her computer being given away to a daycare center just somehow lacks the power of seeing a pissed off dad following through with a threat he made and shooting her computer.Originally posted by Patler View PostAgreed. How much better it would have been to donate her computer to a day care center for adults or children, a head start program, women's shelter, Girls/Boys Club, etc. Lots of better options than destroying it, while still taking it away from their daughter on a permanent basis. Show her a better purpose for her computer rather than simply destroying it.
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His response will have a more lasting effect on his daughter than giving it to charity, as people remember emotional episodes must more vividly.
Giving it to charity would have a more lasting effect on others than his response.
His duty was to his daughter, I say for her he did the right thing. If they aren't strapped for cash rather than having her pay for it make her do service work to earn it back. Then you get the best of both worlds.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Favorite line, when he says "you owe me for these bullets too, they're about a dollar each".
Agree with those that said this lesson is about whats best for his daughter. Giving it away would have just pissed her off. Destroying it is him saying "you want to act messed up, well so can I you selfish little brat". Gotta figure her little issue Dad mentions involved a boy. So really the whole shooting thing serves a dual purpose.
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If it involves a boy, I get the impression she won't be seeing him again anytime soon...I wonder if when the video was done, he took it back inside and put it on her desk...Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostFavorite line, when he says "you owe me for these bullets too, they're about a dollar each".
Agree with those that said this lesson is about whats best for his daughter. Giving it away would have just pissed her off. Destroying it is him saying "you want to act messed up, well so can I you selfish little brat". Gotta figure her little issue Dad mentions involved a boy. So really the whole shooting thing serves a dual purpose."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I don't know, if you take her along and make her physically hand it over, she feels the impact maybe even more. Now it can be seen by her as an angry act by an out of control father (even though he did not appear out of control).Originally posted by Upnorth View PostHis response will have a more lasting effect on his daughter than giving it to charity, as people remember emotional episodes must more vividly.
Giving it to charity would have a more lasting effect on others than his response.
His duty was to his daughter, I say for her he did the right thing. If they aren't strapped for cash rather than having her pay for it make her do service work to earn it back. Then you get the best of both worlds.
What would the impacts be on her friends:
1. "My Dad shot my computer".
2. "My Dad made me delete all personal information, wipe the drive and take my computer to the homeless shelter and give it to them."
#1 - her computer is gone.
#2 - she was forced to give her computer away.
Both ways it is gone. In #1 it was simply destroyed, so she doesn't have it. In #2 she knows some one else has it and is using it. Physically it is retrievable, practically it is not.
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I see what your saying patler, but emotionally I doubt the delete and hand over would have as much of an emotional impact. Sure she can still talk tough but she will always know if she crosses her father she will loose. If he does follow up with community service to pay for it you get the repeated acts of kindness instead of a once off.
That and blasting away at a laptop would be fun! Win win win.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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One last thing my boy would bite when his sister was playing with things he wanted. We would get him to give them to her as a punishment and send him to the thinking corner. This continued until one day I took his toy and broke it in front of him and made him throw it out. I then had him say I could break a toy if he bit.
The biting stopped then.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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