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Christmas at their house must be something to see. Looks like a severely dysfunctional family to me. She's self-absorbed and disrespectful to anyone who asks anything of her. His way of dealing with conflict is to make threats, and if they don't work, use intimidation and humiliation. Father Of The Year? Hardly.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Going to jail if you steal a car is a threat. That keeps me from from stealing. Threats work, if they are followed up on, and is how society's laws are enforced.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Sure, but the methods that law enforcement uses to deter crime is not necessarily the best way for a father to reason with his daughter. Will this incident stop her from posting on facebook? Probably. For a while. Will it make her a more respectful and responsible person? I doubt it.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostGoing to jail if you steal a car is a threat. That keeps me from from stealing. Threats work, if they are followed up on, and is how society's laws are enforced.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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God, what a bunch of pussies. So he shot a fucking computer. Big fucking deal. The world, and his family, will surely survive the loss. The gun makes the story sensational because our idiot nation has been conditioned to be afraid of them and the people who use them. If he had just run it over with a lawnmower, most people would have moved on by now without a second glance."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Your assumption that using a gun is the main reason some people aren't impressed with his methods is incorrect.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Maybe here, but not on the larger scale that led to this being a topic of discussion across the country.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostYour assumption that using a gun is the main reason some people aren't impressed with his methods is incorrect."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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I believe that people have seen his method as a little over the top. If you think no one would care if he ran over it with a lawn mower, you obviously haven't seen the look I get from the guy who sharpens my mower blades. The question is 1. whether it was really a good idea to actually destroy the computer and in such dramatic fashion and 2. whether it was necessary to try to intentionally and publicly humiliate his daughter. Since his methodology up until now has earned him no respect from his daughter, I'd suggest to you that in this instance, his methods may not be the best choice. She will do one of two things. Kowtow, or knowing that her computer is gone, become even more angry and defiant and do something drastic (and likely newsworthy) of her own to one-up him.Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostMaybe here, but not on the larger scale that led to this being a topic of discussion across the country."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I don't believe that if this guy runs the computer over, throws it away, or sets it on fire that this video gets half the attention it's gotten.Originally posted by MJZiggy View PostI believe that people have seen his method as a little over the top. If you think no one would care if he ran over it with a lawn mower, you obviously haven't seen the look I get from the guy who sharpens my mower blades. The question is 1. whether it was really a good idea to actually destroy the computer and in such dramatic fashion and 2. whether it was necessary to try to intentionally and publicly humiliate his daughter. Since his methodology up until now has earned him no respect from his daughter, I'd suggest to you that in this instance, his methods may not be the best choice. She will do one of two things. Kowtow, or knowing that her computer is gone, become even more angry and defiant and do something drastic (and likely newsworthy) of her own to one-up him.
As far as the public "humiliation..." Boo hoo. If this is this girl's biggest lesson in humility, then she should be thanking God every day. At some point, some people still believe that even as a parent, you have to take a stand. Judging this guy like he's a Nazi, while ignoring all the other more fucked up shit people do to their kids every day - things that are considered more "socially acceptable," or "culturally appropriate" is hypocritical, ridiculous, and shows a real lack of tolerance for methodology not accepted my the majority of failed metrosexual, liberal, progressive godless shout-abouts."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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