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  • #16
    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
    One last thing my boy would bite when his sister was playing with things he wanted. We would get him to give them to her as a punishment and send him to the thinking corner. This continued until one day I took his toy and broke it in front of him and made him throw it out. I then had him say I could break a toy if he bit.
    The biting stopped then.
    I suspect you are talking about a much younger child. Their understandings are different.

    I had the exact opposite experiences with my kids as pre-teens and teens. The most successful lessons were always those taught when they were involved with it. with a teenager, needlessly destroying something of value is not a good lesson, in my opinion. I never wanted them to prove a point by destroying something, so I would not do it to them either.

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    • #17
      I think the key here is sticking to a punishment. Most parents threaten and don't follow up,and if you do that then all parenting values mean nothing. We are quibling over a degree of punishment when sticking to youu guns (see what I did) is the biggest part of the puzzle.
      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

      George Orwell

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        I never wanted them to prove a point by destroying something, so I would not do it to them either.
        This. In my opinion it's about showing the right way to handle things and acting like it yourself.

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        • #19
          What a horrible act of parenting! The point he gets across is fine. The way he does it is horrible. He has just proven that if you are bigger and have a gun its OK to destroy someone elses property. Not a great lesson to teach your kid. I agree with Patler on this one. Take the computer away, no need to destroy it.

          Upnorth hits it on the head about disciplining children. You have to have rules and when your child breaks them you have to enforce a punishment.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #20
            I think he should have practiced his lines a few more times before rolling camera, he sounded like a guy just smart enough to shoot a computer.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
              What a horrible act of parenting! The point he gets across is fine. The way he does it is horrible. He has just proven that if you are bigger and have a gun its OK to destroy someone elses property.
              Who said it was someone else's? Sounds to me like he bought it for Princess Fuckface. That's why he told her she could have another when she could afford to buy one herself.
              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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              • #22
                That video should have been 45 seconds long. Not how I'd handle a pain in the ass teenage daughter but this fella doesn't seem suited for the required mental warfare.
                70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                • #23
                  My, my....I didn't realize that we had some many "holier-than-thous" at PR.

                  What angst over the destruction of a computer! A computer that he bought and maintained with his money, loaned to his daughter for her use, and warned her that she would lose if she continued to disrespect her father, step-mother, and mother. And then, finally, when the smart-a teen gets caught again, with the permission of the above, the dad follows through with his promise in a dramatic way. Brilliant!

                  Not what you would have done? Who cares? It's that family and their values. That dad who has raised the girl for 15 years knows better how to communicate to you than you. After having that video posted on her Facebook page by him to shame her before her friends in the same manner as she had disrespected her parents, I bet she will immediately grow up some and change her tune.

                  If Whitney Houston had had people around her that cared for her like this father does for his daughter then she would be alive today, drug-free, and healthy.

                  Oh, the use of a gun is violence? Hardly. But, somehow, people create this emotional link from guns to abuse. There is no valid comparison to physical or verbal abuse and the man shooting a computer on video. My goodness, the man's daughter is almost 16. Which is closer to unlawful, destroying her computer or physically punishing her?

                  So far, the dad's survived the scruntiny of the "Save the Whales, Kill the Babies" crowd that think that Facebook is another version of reality. Yeah, they called the authorities on him.

                  The father's regrets after being checked out by the police and Child Protective Services?

                  He said ".....if he had to do it again he would, "Not be smoking a cigarette ... not have used the word "ass" in my comment directed at my daughter ... would have worn my Silverbelly Stetson, not my Tilley hat if I'd known that image was going to follow me the rest of my life and I'd probably have cleaned my boots."

                  Good job, dad!

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                  • #24
                    My kids are going to need so much therapy.

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                    • #25
                      He just looked like a jerk off, that is all I am saying.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                        He just looked like a jerk off, that is all I am saying.
                        I'd agree with you nutz. not much about him screams I.T. professional.......unless you count the dumbasses that work at best buy.

                        on a side note. i would have used a shotgun instead of a 45. the visual would have been better and the rounds would have been less exepensive.

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                        • #27
                          Kiwon hits it one the head. So does Skin. Finally I like wiskey's flair for teh dramatic
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • #28
                            After brewing on it for a bit I take my previous comment back. A 15 year-old sociopath daughter takes tough love no doubt as they'll try to exploit the fact that they are your offspring. Putting a video up for her friends to see is a great idea. Like Nutz though I think the execution was severely lacking. If you're a long-winded hillbilly then your video might miss the mark of appearing like the omnipotent, omnipresent god-of-her-life that you were going for.

                            Patler is too smart to raise a daughter this fucked up in the first place so its no surprise to me that he's still trying to mold the clay and preserve the laptop. Punishment needed to be swift, unjust, and dripping with shock value. She probably can't be cured in the next 3 years but the laptop is acceptable collateral if it at least makes her self-aware that she's fucked up.
                            70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                            • #29
                              He fucked up....I don't care about him disciplining his daughter.....just don't do it on the internet.
                              C.H.U.D.

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                              • #30
                                He should have done a Najeh Davenport on the laptop. Then she'd have that mental image every time she used it.
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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