More Banjo: Coronavirus And Sports

[call_me_ishmael]

Then why did Rand Paul get tested? Again, you can't force everyone on a chain to get tested. You can recommend they do. And again, if people had taken this seriously when we locked down travel from china we would have more kits not....but they didn't. They ALL didn't.

If "people", who are these people? The only people I can imagine you talking about in this case is the Trump cabinet. In which case, I agree. What was the average person supposed to do when the government was telling them not to worry? FWIW, my wife kept our family on the ball for about a month now so we've been well stocked on food and essentials. But the average person who doesn't have an exceptional wife? Probably listening to the man in the big chair.

Which is the norm now days. Like I said, how about the media go back to writing information instead of trying to impose a bias. All the media.

I agree with this too.

*snip* nobody would die if Hillary was President

This is nonsense. I would never say such a thing. I would call a spade a spade. Early inaction here was very problematic and would be for any President regardless of political affiliation. This is not a good situation at all and I don't wish ANYONE gets caught up in it.

[call_me_ishmael]

I see that Canada isn't sending athletes to Japan for the Olympics and wants the Games delayed by a year.

I think it's inevitable.

[pbmax]

pbmax, Exactly what good do you see in testing? I would suggest that the only thing testing does is give fuel to the panic-mongers - oooh we have so many more cases now; why? because we had more testing. Never mind that nobody dies from it who isn't most of the way gone already, and hardly anybody even gets more than very mildly sick from it.

More and more, it is becoming obvious to people that we have been fucked up by the panic-mongers messing up our lives. The "cure" really is worse than the disease.

More robust testing earlier lets you quarantine a smaller set of possible carriers and symptomatic. That would reduce the spread. If you know where the trouble is, easier to isolate early and on smaller scale.

Now, we are in a mass quarantine to achieve similar results and slow the spread.

[pbmax]

Is that what you think hospitals are all about, testing? Curing what ails you, that's their purpose, and if you don't have any significant symptoms, you're probably just clogging the system. Whiners are whining about alleged overcrowding, yet mostly the same people doing that whining are craving more tests - resulting in more people unnecessarily being sent to hospitals.

Ever had a colonoscopy? Any cancer screen? Wife had a pap smear? Mammogram?

Large scale testing done right doesn't involve a hospital. Its a kit you can give remotely at small clinics or at drive thrus.

[bobblehead]

Oh, we can talk for a long time about the wealthy and connected getting tests ahead of everyone else.

After stating testing was continuing to be for the symptomatic, Pence and his wife were tested. Do as I say, not as I do.

Agree there. Celebrities, politicians, and athletes are likely tested at a rate 20x the population at large.

But again I state. Getting tested doesn't do jack for you except piece of mind. If you have it its the treatment you get that matters. I'll never argue that life is fair, I will argue that thinking you can mandate fairness is naive.

[bobblehead]

Ever had a colonoscopy? Any cancer screen? Wife had a pap smear? Mammogram?

Large scale testing done right doesn't involve a hospital. Its a kit you can give remotely at small clinics or at drive thrus.

But ramping up production of a new test isn't easy. At UMC in NV they aren't testing for wuhan flu. The results take too long to get back. They are testing for 18 other things and if they are all negative then they treat you for chinese virus. If china had let our CDC into china in December we would have ramped up production of a test kit by mid January and have a ton of them available. Instead we started ramping up when we finally could (Guessing like 2 weeks ago) and now people are clamoring "not fast enough"

[mraynrand]

Ever had a colonoscopy?

Not voluntarily

[pbmax]

Agree there. Celebrities, politicians, and athletes are likely tested at a rate 20x the population at large.

But again I state. Getting tested doesn't do jack for you except piece of mind. If you have it its the treatment you get that matters. I'll never argue that life is fair, I will argue that thinking you can mandate fairness is naive.

It doesn't unless its wide enough to let you be more effective with limited quarantines.

The CDC or WHO testing kits have been produced at scale. But the CDC version had flaws in one or two of its reagents that rendered other labs unable to verify that the tests worked properly. Those had to be redone and there was a three week delay.

During those three weeks, all testing had to happen in Atlanta at the CDC, which is not designed to handle that kind of throughout.

Three weeks took you from containment and mitigation to suppression. Having a backup plan would have been good.

[call_me_ishmael]

Olympics postponed!!!

[Fosco33]

Summerfear moves to Sept

[texaspackerbacker]

Ever had a colonoscopy? Any cancer screen? Wife had a pap smear? Mammogram?

Large scale testing done right doesn't involve a hospital. Its a kit you can give remotely at small clinics or at drive thrus.

And you don't see the difference???? The things you mention are to determine if there is a serious life threatening condition that needs treating. This corona testing is NOT that at all. It is designed to overcrowd hospitals with people whose life is absolutely not threatened, and it is designed to throw gasoline on the fire which is the idiocy of panicky overreaction to this thing.

America is waking up, though. People are coming around to seeing this shit for what it is, and saying No Mas!

[sharpe1027]

And you don't see the difference???? The things you mention are to determine if there is a serious life threatening condition that needs treating. This corona testing is NOT that at all. It is designed to overcrowd hospitals with people whose life is absolutely not threatened, and it is designed to throw gasoline on the fire which is the idiocy of panicky overreaction to this thing.

America is waking up, though. People are coming around to seeing this shit for what it is, and saying No Mas!

Why are hospitals running out of ventilators?

[sharpe1027]

And you don't see the difference???? The things you mention are to determine if there is a serious life threatening condition that needs treating. This corona testing is NOT that at all. It is designed to overcrowd hospitals with people whose life is absolutely not threatened, and it is designed to throw gasoline on the fire which is the idiocy of panicky overreaction to this thing.

America is waking up, though. People are coming around to seeing this shit for what it is, and saying No Mas!

People please ignore this bullshit and think of someone besides yourself.

[MadtownPacker]

OK. If we can't dial it back, I am going to close the thread. Please be civil and possibly return to the sports aspects of it if possible.

They are still throwing horseshoes on ESPN2. I wonder if horseshoes can hold the coronavirus? Copper is very inhospitable to it, wonder about iron?

Threads don’t closed they get moved. This is a legit topic but you let it stray too far out of bounds.

Romper Room for now and if needed FYI.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Threads don’t closed they get moved. This is a legit topic but you let it stray too far out of bounds.

Romper Room for now and if needed FYI.

Romper Room! Romper Room!