OFFICIAL THREAD about "NOTHING"

[woodbuck27]

Happy New Year!!

http://morganrants.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/angelica-hernandez_gloria-nunez1.jpg?w=450&h=269

Enough to make any man happy with less.

[woodbuck27]

Better?

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/15685_500808976630687_1899754361_n.jpghttp://www.mylovelymodels.com/images/pics/yamila-diaz/yamila-diaz-14.jpg

His request was specific. He wants two.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDr5z9v6asuFNOcY6h2RzrdmsWJZTCX e84mTsAFkMa_riFdNB3

[Freak Out]

Anyone ever read Geek Love? I want some nasty hot Siamese twin bitches!

[mmmdk]

Did you read the story? It was by no means an attack.

Okie, I hoped it wasn't! C'est bon avec un ami au Belgique.

[Bretsky]

I made about a hundred dollars playing Blackjack at the Hochunk Casino's yesterday
My wife managed to lose about a Hundred last night at the Casinos

Some things never change

[MadtownPacker]

Hundreds?? Hundreds?? MFer we need to be talking about thousands!!!

[Freak Out]

Ooops.

http://www.adn.com/2013/01/01/2739838/kulluk-final.html


http://vimeo.com/56609306

[easy cheesy]

OK, Can I just say that the Seattle Seahawks fans are the most annoying fucks on the planet? I didn't get the memo stating that they were the best team in football, they are "entitled" to a Superbowl win, that the stock Seahawks "fan" line regarding the "Fail Mary" call is "Y'all jus hatin you fags it payback and fair cuz we got hosed in Superbowl by bad call so we take what ours cuz revenge is sweet you whiny fudgepackers" and Pete Carroll was a living God amongst us. Can I just vent that out there? Thank you. I feel much better. I must now go run the gauntlet at the grocery store in my Packer gear. It's ugly out there... Wish me luck....

http://i.qkme.me/3q1k0p.jpg

[Bretsky]

http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap1000000127438/0ap2000000127471?campaign=Facebook_gallery_cheer

[Iron Mike]

I got a new wristwatch today....whaddya think?

http://www.yugster.com/uploads/image/image/18585/big_thumb_pulsar_PF8384_1.jpg?1351184453

[swede]

I got a new wristwatch today....whaddya think?

Days of Our Lives started 9 minutes ago!



http://www.yugster.com/uploads/image/image/18585/big_thumb_pulsar_PF8384_1.jpg?1351184453

[GrnBay007]

Coldest weather we have had in 2 years and my furnace goes out!! :( Woke up with it 56 degrees in the house this morning. BRRRR!

[MJZiggy]

Coldest weather we have had in 2 years and my furnace goes out!! :( Woke up with it 56 degrees in the house this morning. BRRRR!

After a similar experience, I moved to Florida for six years...lol.

[HowardRoark]

I just stumbled on the area of this place where you can see who gives you reputation......interesting. And, no mmmdk, I am not "deranged."

[mraynrand]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to HowardRoark again.

yes, you are deranged

[mraynrand]

I got a new wristwatch today....whaddya think?

http://www.yugster.com/uploads/image/image/18585/big_thumb_pulsar_PF8384_1.jpg?1351184453

If that thing doesn't have a retractable zip line and a mini laser, it's a piece of shit.

[Freak Out]

Coldest weather we have had in 2 years and my furnace goes out!! :( Woke up with it 56 degrees in the house this morning. BRRRR!

I wake up every morning with my house that cold. :) I turn the heat waaaaaaay down.

[mraynrand]

I wake up every morning with my house that cold. :) I turn the heat waaaaaaay down.

no shit. 56 is cold? Grow a pair. :lol:

[Iron Mike]

If that thing doesn't have a retractable zip line and a mini laser, it's a piece of shit.

My days of work in the US Intel community are long over.

[GrnBay007]

I just stumbled on the area of this place where you can see who gives you reputation......interesting. And, no mmmdk, I am not "deranged."

So.......who's yer daddy? :)

[GrnBay007]

I wake up every morning with my house that cold. :) I turn the heat waaaaaaay down.

Some guys will do anything to get cuddle time with their woman! ;)

[Joemailman]

Some guys will do anything to get cuddle time with their woman! ;)

Some Grailees will sabotage their furnace to do the same thing.

[MJZiggy]

Some Grailees will sabotage their furnace to do the same thing.

Never, never NEVER mess with the furnace.

[Kiwon]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/jasonarcher.jpg http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/walmartsmile.jpg

Thank you for shoplifting at Walmart.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/smile-walmart-thief-578451

[mraynrand]

He'd make a perfect greeter

[MJZiggy]

So how warm does a wall have to be to paint it. I swear because the heat is paid here, no one has insulated a wall since the place was built in the 60s...

[Bretsky]

Some Grailees will sabotage their furnace to do the same thing.


and then call the London Hottie ;)

[swede]

So how warm does a wall have to be to paint it. I swear because the heat is paid here, no one has insulated a wall since the place was built in the 60s...

Good question. The wall temperature is more important than the air temperature. If you can find a way to get an accurate measure, my guess is that most paints would have a hard time drying properly if the surface temperature isn't at least greater than 50 degrees. Use the 1-800 # on the paint can if you are really a careful person and want accurate information. Otherwise slap on a test patch and see if it has dried in a couple of hours. If you are not a careful person throw a Jose Cuervo painting party and invite the local Tau Kappa Epsilon chapter to grab a red plastic cup and a brush and if it shticks it shticks. Woo hoo.

[MJZiggy]

It's supposed to hit 50 degrees next weekend so I may just wait 'til then to do that one wall and get the rest of the room done. Thanks for the advice.

[easy cheesy]

The Ray Lewis Farewell Tour, featuring Beyonce, kicks off in about two and a half hours. ***flicking Bic and swaying to and fro***

[wootah]

A real American hero:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7i1ASCS5o

[Freak Out]

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?videoid=9341c11f-8656-4acf-b210-7a986d5a161c&src=v5:share:sharepermalink:&from=sharepermalink

Amazing free kick.

[Kiwon]

You're in a bad mood and someone asks you, "What's up your butt?"

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/neillansing.jpg

This guy can say: 17 round blue pills marked “54/199”, 1 cigarette, 6 matches, 1 flint, 1 empty syringe with eraser over needle, 1 lip balm container, 1 condom, 1 CVS receipt, 1 paper coupon

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sarasota/cops-inmate-had-condom-stuffed-30-items-crammed-his-anus

I say that beats this guy. All he had up his was 100 bags of heroin.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/rasoulspeight.jpg

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/heroin-hidden-in-butt-561324

[wootah]

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?videoid=9341c11f-8656-4acf-b210-7a986d5a161c&src=v5:share:sharepermalink:&from=sharepermalink

Amazing free kick.

Indeed. Too bad he is a huge ass.

It was a good day for the Belgians: 2 fantastic last minute winners by Hazard and Dembele...

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=4385bf85-623c-4461-8ce9-6b8c3385f63e

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?from=gallery_en-us&videoid=fe26f9c9-cdec-4747-8746-ef15625b1697&sf=Relevancy#8

[Iron Mike]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/860f7bd52f9e8ff3834c7890ac429c36/tumblr_mezgriIzub1rsq9eyo1_500.gif

It can stop snowing anytime now. :(

[Joemailman]

The new Odd Couple:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/03/01/sports/basketball/01rodman/01rodman-articleLarge.jpg

[woodbuck27]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/860f7bd52f9e8ff3834c7890ac429c36/tumblr_mezgriIzub1rsq9eyo1_500.gif

It can stop snowing anytime now. :(

Holly shit ! It's 'the Apocalypse'.

[MJZiggy]

I will never paint a room white again. I don't care WHAT the realtor says...

[swede]

I will never paint a room white again. I don't care WHAT the realtor says...

Was the paint coverage itself bad, or is the floor color influencing the shade in some awkward way, or is the white itself projecting an unpleasant whiff of neo-political supremacy?

[MJZiggy]

Was the paint coverage itself bad, or is the floor color influencing the shade in some awkward way, or is the white itself projecting an unpleasant whiff of neo-political supremacy?

It seems that it takes four coats of expensive, primer included white paint to cover light blue stripes. It's streaky and while I'm sure the realtor was looking for "clean," this looks only cold and institutional compared to the warm oak floors.

[MJZiggy]

I love when they call a snow day before it actually starts snowing. I get to work from home in my jammies tomorrow...(I will actually get far more done than I would in the office without the interruptions).

[Freak Out]

Messi.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ha8lns8dns2gif/ku-xlarge.gif

[wootah]

that's a great gif, freak.

5 guys closing down on him and he effortlessly lays it in the top corner. what a player.

[MJZiggy]

Just had a flashback to the days when we used to say goodnight to each other...we've come hella long way since then.

[swede]

Good night Mary Ellen.

[Joemailman]

Costa Rica filing protest over game played in snowy Denver.

http://nbcsportsmedia2.msnbc.com/j/reuters/2013-03-23t061838z_1_cbre92m0hja00_rtroptp_3_soccer-world.nbcsports-story-612.jpg

[wootah]

Costa Rica filing protest over game played in snowy Denver.

That's taking home advantage to the next level :)

[easy cheesy]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/17813_504644799594654_1008070796_n.jpg

[easy cheesy]

and so it goes....

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/549008_351948378240317_873647363_n.jpg

[easy cheesy]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/10180_521679234545436_1908689841_n.png

[Iron Mike]

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/196/26e/5d2/resized/jerry-jones-meme-generator-you-thought-al-davis-was-the-only-sith-lord-2a926a.jpg

[easy cheesy]

http://18.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqayzusot61qz8r7po1_400.jpg

[Freak Out]

http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gas-prices.jpg

[MJZiggy]

http://18.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqayzusot61qz8r7po1_400.jpg

I hate eminent domain. Just thought I'd share.

[Freak Out]

Damn Bing.

[Freak Out]

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/491/587/587491.gif

[Freak Out]

RIP My friend.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wHOy5gBJIm0

[Bretsky]

hot lesbians

[MJZiggy]

hot lesbiansFunny, I thought you'd prefer them cold and in need of cuddling to keep warm.

[Bretsky]

Funny, I thought you'd prefer them cold and in need of cuddling to keep warm.


I have no problem with hot lesbians oiled up on the heat; plus if cold they often are wearing something :)

[MJZiggy]

House finally closed. No more house, no more lawn, no more dealing with crap, no more people emailing me paperwork that has to be signed RIGHT NOW!! Huge weight off my mind...

[Freak Out]

Good for you.....but where are you living?

[MJZiggy]

Good for you.....but where are you living?

I bought a condo a couple months ago. Now I will have time to do something with it.

[Bretsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXFLty1ygoo

[MJZiggy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXFLty1ygoo

Nicely done.

[Freak Out]

Nicely done.

I second that B.

[Zool]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/325/699/4fc.jpg

[Bretsky]

I second that B.

thx feak and mj

[Bretsky]

Mother's day.......dam......what do I get this year ????

[MJZiggy]

Mother's day.......dam......what do I get this year ????

What did you use to do before marriage and kids?

[Bretsky]

What did you use to do before marriage and kids?


Had sex

[Bretsky]

What did you use to do before marriage and kids?

should have prefaced this....I was talking about my wife for mother's day....not my mom....that is easy

[MJZiggy]

Had sex

Well, considering the number of kids you have, you clearly did that after as well. Let me rephrase. What did your wife do before you got married that she doesn't get the chance to do anymore?

[MJZiggy]

So happy Cinco de Mayo. I've had sangria and some amazing guacamole. Now I am tipsy and have the hiccups. And I don't care that my condo is all torn apart trying to reorganize. Life is good for the moment.

[MadtownPacker]

should have prefaced this....I was talking about my wife for mother's day....not my mom....that is easy
Only a Whitey would have to clarify that. :lol:

[Bretsky]

Well, considering the number of kids you have, you clearly did that after as well. Let me rephrase. What did your wife do before you got married that she doesn't get the chance to do anymore?


Have several days of sex in a row ?

Hey, it's the prefect mother's day gift !!!

[Freak Out]

Holy fuck.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-three-rescued-cleveland-women-6-year-old-are-in-good-health/2013/05/07/dd65ea5e-b719-11e2-aa9e-a02b765ff0ea_story.html?hpid=z1

[Joemailman]

Gas station humor I heard today:

Cashier: Any gas today?
Customer: No, I feel great!

[Bretsky]

I won my first softball game tonight. It is my 28th year playing. I always said I'd play til 45 and then debate at this point. I play co ed with a bunch of 25yr old hotties.
They keep wanting me back because I pitch and I can throw 7 out of 10 strikes at will...aka....I walk one to two people per season.

Next year I may go Don Driver and retire. If I keep playing my fear is I'll still be pitching 9 years from now so I can play slow pitch softball with my second daughter when she is 18.

[swede]

I won my first softball game tonight. It is my 28th year playing.

Wow. Way to hang in there. I would have quit after 5 or 6 years if I hadn't won a game.

[Iron Mike]

What did your wife do before you got married that she doesn't get the chance to do anymore?


Had sex

Fixed. :)

[Bretsky]

Wow. Way to hang in there. I would have quit after 5 or 6 years if I hadn't won a game.

oops......lol............I should have noted we won our 1st softball game this year in league
That was poorly worded :)

Had I not won I'd have been done before year two. Many league titles and tourney's over the years.

[Zool]

I won my first softball game tonight. It is my 28th year playing. I always said I'd play til 45 and then debate at this point. I play co ed with a bunch of 25yr old hotties.
They keep wanting me back because I pitch and I can throw 7 out of 10 strikes at will...aka....I walk one to two people per season.

Next year I may go Don Driver and retire. If I keep playing my fear is I'll still be pitching 9 years from now so I can play slow pitch softball with my second daughter when she is 18.

Nice longevity B. I had to hang em up this season. After tearing out meniscus last year turning out of the batters box (lefty) I figured that was nature saying "you're done".

[Zool]

http://i.imgur.com/prtTFhL.jpg

Couple good lookin' fellows watching a horse race.

[MadtownPacker]

Oh shit!! ARod looking like a fucking cartel member.

[Bretsky]

Nice longevity B. I had to hang em up this season. After tearing out meniscus last year turning out of the batters box (lefty) I figured that was nature saying "you're done".


Yes, I empathize about the knee. I have a fully torn ACL right now and the doc also needs to clean up the miniscus with something called a miniscopoly...or some fancy procedure. I play co ed softball with a bunch of 20 hotties.....and I pitch and can still throw about seven out of ten strikes. Docs says I can't damage it worse than it is so I'm playing the summer before surgery and working through the pain. Today this knee feels like a vegetable

[MJZiggy]

Soooo...I'm scrolling through the twitter feed at work, and there's this tweet from a small-town paper that says a man was accused of child rape. I didn't click the link, but started thinking about what kind of punishments might be suitable for a crime like that. I was thinking that being sent of to his prison sentence with no pants allowed on him might be a nice start. Call it an open invitation.

[Bretsky]

I've heard prison is a terrible place for those who commit bad crimes against children.....it should be

[Joemailman]

Might have to see the new Star Trek movie.

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/movies_star-trek-into-darkness.jpg

[Iron Mike]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-charlie-sheen-changes-name-carlos-estevez-machete-kills-20130525,0,521535.story

[easy cheesy]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/thong-cape-scooter-man-escapes-law-wrath-article-1.1354565

[MJZiggy]

Arlington was amazing this year. Got stuck in a traffic jam on the way out of the cemetery and passed a MASSIVE bike rally across from the Pentagon. Even coming from Milwaukee, that was the biggest I've ever seen.

[Bretsky]

I saw two cute lesbians in Milwaukee...both blazing hot......was it bad of me to point this out to my wife...and say....Look Jodi.....a hot lesbian couple...I told you they exist !!

[MJZiggy]

I saw two cute lesbians in Milwaukee...both blazing hot......was it bad of me to point this out to my wife...and say....Look Jodi.....a hot lesbian couple...I told you they exist !!

I'm guessing she knows you well enough by now that this was not unexpected...

[Bretsky]

TRUE

[mraynrand]

I just had a crappy lunch and to top it off I read about all the scandals. I'm handing out negative rep to everyone on this page because it's all your fault(s). Deal with it.

[mraynrand]

I just had a crappy lunch and to top it off I read about all the scandals. I'm handing out negative rep to everyone on this page because it's all your fault(s). Deal with it.



"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later."

Thanks a lot Madtown - I can only hand out what? 10 reps in one 24 hour period? Should be at least 100. TIN POT DICTATOR!!!!

I still have people left on this page to insult, especially that Swede character. If The Skinbasket were still here, I'd negative rep him incessantly, not to mention Harlan and Ty Bigguns.

[MadtownPacker]

I had changed it to allow for more hatred but apparently not enough. I will make it so you can do your worse.

[mraynrand]

I had changed it to allow for more hatred but apparently not enough. I will make it so you can do your worse.

Awesome. repped.

[mraynrand]

Awesome. repped.


or not - I have to spread the wealth, apparently!

[MadtownPacker]

Ok I bumped it up. Yeah you have to hit 3 other first.

[MadtownPacker]

Ok 100 and only have to hit one other poster. You likes now?

[mraynrand]

Ok 100 and only have to hit one other poster. You likes now?


repped

[GrnBay007]

Went to an outdoor concert tonight and saw Survivor and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Survivor was not that great but holy cow Lynyrd Skynyrd is still rockin!!!! They sounded great.....way better than I expected. Great time!

[MJZiggy]

Losing someone you look up to really sucks. Death sucks.

[mraynrand]

Losing someone you look up to really sucks. Death sucks.

yup. Condolences. hope you trust in the Lord.

[MJZiggy]

yup. Condolences. hope you trust in the Lord.

Thanks. I am sort of a deist, she an atheist, but she was and is probably the biggest inspiration of my life, even moreso than my own parents. She really lived! She should have lived longer.

[Upnorth]

Thanks. I am sort of a deist, she an atheist, but she was and is probably the biggest inspiration of my life, even moreso than my own parents. She really lived! She should have lived longer.

I am very sorry for your loss.

[Iron Mike]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbe9fynapW1r6h22v.gif

[MJZiggy]

I am very sorry for your loss.
Thanks.

[Joemailman]

Do not try this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py_pf6VykS0

[Bretsky]

stupid sack of shit wirless internet connection !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can I surf porn in th basement on the laptop in front of the 60" TV without wireless :((((((((((((((((((((

[swede]

Un conscious doth make cows on us fall (http://main.aol.com/2013/07/13/joao-maria-de-souza-brazi_n_3598298.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000058)

[Bretsky]

Life is good again; got the wirelss to work. still not sure what was wrong but all I can best figure out is the Ethernet Port on the old router stopped working

[Bretsky]

Where the hell is Lurker anyways ? I missed him criticizing my draft views this year !

[Bretsky]

And Jim Barnes....I need him for some speculative views on up and coming FFL guys for the nY league

[Freak Out]

Have skin and nutz both joined a Kentucky militia?

[Bretsky]

Skin still owed me a trip to the Booby bar.......and I don't care if he's accross the country !

[GrnBay007]

Have skin and nutz both joined a Kentucky militia?
Speaking of......a bit nervous here that my daughter started dating someone that seems a lil too excited about guns! Pics on FB look a bit too much what I imagine the Skin compound to look like lol. Does make me feel a bit better that last night she was more concerned about what she was going to wear today then the fact it would be her first day shooting today! Gotta love my fashion diva! :)

[mraynrand]

guns are inanimate objects

[Little Whiskey]

I agree with mraynrand. If he is a d-bag with guns step in. Hell if he's a d-bag in general. Step in. It's not the guns.

If he teaches her how to shoot. That's a bonus to being a good guy.

[GrnBay007]

Ahh, he seems like a nice guy. This appears to be a summer romance only. In Aug. she goes back to school and in Sept. he is gone too....joined the military. Of course her uncle, my big bro, gave me a lecture on how I better make sure she doesn't run off an marry him!! lol no way........

She did have fun shooting the guns....wants to do it again.

[MadtownPacker]

Well if she is anything like her Momma we should all worry.

Kidding, the dude can't be that bad and if he is at least she knows how to shoot his ass. :lol:

[Bretsky]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm

[MJZiggy]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm

Happy birthday, geezer...

[mraynrand]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm

probably not, but you are likely at the frisky/creepy threshold

[Patler]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm


probably not, but you are likely at the frisky/creepy threshold

But you will gain a greater appreciation for older women, until you get to the point that your "tastes" in women span a range of about 50 years or so!

[Patler]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm

Your balloon will burst however when that gorgeous 27-30 year old refers to you as "that older guy", or tells you that you remind her of her father, uncle or (god-forbid!) grandfather.

[mraynrand]

Your balloon will burst however when that gorgeous 27-30 year old refers to you as "that older guy", or tells you that you remind her of her father, uncle or (god-forbid!) grandfather.

It could be worse - she could tell you that you remind her of the crazy guy down at the homeless shelter - not that that's happened to me or anything - well, at least not more than once or twice.

[Joemailman]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm

I thought you were still in the 15-18 range. :satan:

[GrnBay007]

I turn another year old today, but my tastes in scoping out chicks does not change. As I age, will my taste for women ever go by the 21-27 year old range ? Hmmmm

Happy Birthday B! Hope you had a great day!

My taste in men has changed....no longer interested in the 21-27 group. Now looking for a handsome middle-aged man, like maybe a retired military man with lifetime health benefits. :) I could retire with full benefits at a nice young age if I didn't have to worry about paying for health insurance :(

[digitaldean]

Happy birthday, B! It's easy to be interested in 21-27 year old women when you're 29 yourself......:razz:

[swede]

My father died at home yesterday after a 14 month duel with lung cancer. Not a fair fight. My mother and I were with him all week and in his last hours. From the time he entered hospice on Monday he went through about six weeks worth of the dying process in four days. At four o'clock he was asking for a drink and a tissue. At five o'clock he asked us to turn on the lights (they were already on), and at 5:05 I called my children to have them come and say goodbye. I left his side at 5:20 to answer the phone and he slipped away in that moment with my mother holding his hand. Cancer is a cruel disease and it robbed him of all strength. The pain was relentless. We are grateful that the end was peaceful, though a little stunned at how rapidly he slipped from us. I know many of you have been there and felt such loss. It is just cathartic to share.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z236/dsteenswede44/d050c1c8-5788-4e22-8b22-b57a817638dd_zps96f84044.jpg

[Joemailman]

Peace to you and yours.

[MJZiggy]

I'm so sorry, Swede. Cancer absolutely blows. May he rest in peace now.

[Bretsky]

very sorry to hear that swede

[wootah]

I'm sorry for your loss, Swede.

[GrnBay007]

Very sorry for your loss Swede. Reading your post immediately brought me back to being with my dad in the weeks/days before he passed, also of cancer, 7 years ago (can't believe it's been that long!) You are right, cancer is a very cruel disease! I hope your experience with Hospice was as good as ours...they helped our family in many ways. That is a very nice picture you posted of your dad. Looks like a very peaceful place. Take care of yourself!

[swede]

Going through my dad's stuff with mom we found a baseball autographed by the 1969 Minnesota Twins. Bob Allison's wife was a nurse at UM hospital where my big bro was a frequent patient due to cystic fibrosis. She arranged to have Bob come in and visit him and he brought along a bunch of Twins swag, including a baseball signed by the '69 Twins team which included Billy Martin and Early Wynn as manager and coach, Harmon Killebrew, Jim Perry Jim Kaat, Rod Carew Graig Nettles, Tony Oliva, Cesar Tovar, and the rest.

Looking online that baseball is worth maybe $150 bucks. Sheesh. I'll bet you could get $150 for Aaron Rodgers' toenail clippings. It is funny how sports memorabilia values are so arbitrary and illogical. Aaron can make toenail clippings (and autographed photos) for a good long while, but you won't ever get Billy Martin and Early Wynn and Harmon Killebrew to sign a baseball for you again.

I know what it comes down to, though. Despite the Hall of Famers on that ball, few interested at more than $150, and I wouldn't let it go for five times that.

[mraynrand]

God Bless, Swede! Prayers and consolation to the Swede family.










BTW, I paid $185 for Rodgers' toenail clippings with a scab thrown in to sweeten the deal.

[mraynrand]

Going through my dad's stuff with mom we found a baseball autographed by the 1969 Minnesota Twins. Bob Allison's wife was a nurse at UM hospital where my big bro was a frequent patient due to cystic fibrosis. She arranged to have Bob come in and visit him and he brought along a bunch of Twins swag, including a baseball signed by the '69 Twins team which included Billy Martin and Early Wynn as manager and coach, Harmon Killebrew, Jim Perry Jim Kaat, Rod Carew Graig Nettles, Tony Oliva, Cesar Tovar, and the rest.

Looking online that baseball is worth maybe $150 bucks. Sheesh. I'll bet you could get $150 for Aaron Rodgers' toenail clippings. It is funny how sports memorabilia values are so arbitrary and illogical. Aaron can make toenail clippings (and autographed photos) for a good long while, but you won't ever get Billy Martin and Early Wynn and Harmon Killebrew to sign a baseball for you again.

I know what it comes down to, though. Despite the Hall of Famers on that ball, few interested at more than $150, and I wouldn't let it go for five times that.

I once dated Kent Hrbek's niece. The guy still wouldn't sign my glove.

[Iron Mike]

My condolences, Swede....

Efter regn kommer solsken.

[swede]

My condolences, Swede....

Thanks, Mike. We laid him to rest today in Appleton. Our only regret was the lengthy and painful illness. We had a great celebration of the old boy's life with all of my beloved uncles and aunts over the last few days.


Efter regn kommer solsken.

Ja, och efter bönor kommer gasbildning.

[Bretsky]

I've been in bachelor party withdrawals.......a few weeks ago a buddy of mine noted there will be one in August and even though I don't know the groom he asked if I"d be interested in heading to a big ass party. He let me know instead of going to the dude joints they were having a couple strippers head right to his house........F'ck ya I was game for that !!! Any other Saturday but this weekend since that is Packer Family Fun Night at Lambeau.

I am cursed; he texted me a few days ago and it's Saturday.........

[Freak Out]

My father died at home yesterday after a 14 month duel with lung cancer. Not a fair fight. My mother and I were with him all week and in his last hours. From the time he entered hospice on Monday he went through about six weeks worth of the dying process in four days. At four o'clock he was asking for a drink and a tissue. At five o'clock he asked us to turn on the lights (they were already on), and at 5:05 I called my children to have them come and say goodbye. I left his side at 5:20 to answer the phone and he slipped away in that moment with my mother holding his hand. Cancer is a cruel disease and it robbed him of all strength. The pain was relentless. We are grateful that the end was peaceful, though a little stunned at how rapidly he slipped from us. I know many of you have been there and felt such loss. It is just cathartic to share.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z236/dsteenswede44/d050c1c8-5788-4e22-8b22-b57a817638dd_zps96f84044.jpg

RIP.

Went through basically (brain cancer not lung) the same thing with my father a couple of years ago. It was hard to watch but I'm glad I got to spend time with him at the end. Two months from diagnosis to death.....almost to the hour of what the doc said.

[Freak Out]

LOL!

http://jalopnik.com/the-ten-most-redneckiest-motorsports-1000549055

[hoosier]

My father died at home yesterday after a 14 month duel with lung cancer. Not a fair fight. My mother and I were with him all week and in his last hours. From the time he entered hospice on Monday he went through about six weeks worth of the dying process in four days. At four o'clock he was asking for a drink and a tissue. At five o'clock he asked us to turn on the lights (they were already on), and at 5:05 I called my children to have them come and say goodbye. I left his side at 5:20 to answer the phone and he slipped away in that moment with my mother holding his hand. Cancer is a cruel disease and it robbed him of all strength. The pain was relentless. We are grateful that the end was peaceful, though a little stunned at how rapidly he slipped from us. I know many of you have been there and felt such loss. It is just cathartic to share.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z236/dsteenswede44/d050c1c8-5788-4e22-8b22-b57a817638dd_zps96f84044.jpg

RIP. Sorry to hear about the suffering, and hope your kids will have had the chance to form some positive memories of grandpa.

[mraynrand]

I've been in bachelor party withdrawals.......a few weeks ago a buddy of mine noted there will be one in August and even though I don't know the groom he asked if I"d be interested in heading to a big ass party. He let me know instead of going to the dude joints they were having a couple strippers head right to his house........F'ck ya I was game for that !!! Any other Saturday but this weekend since that is Packer Family Fun Night at Lambeau.

I am cursed; he texted me a few days ago and it's Saturday.........

so are they having strippers at family night?

[Iron Mike]

so are they having strippers at family night?

Watch and see for yourself:

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/countdown-to-packers-family-night

[MadtownPacker]

http://i190.photo-bucket.com/albums/z236/dsteenswede44/d050c1c8-5788-4e22-8b22-b57a817638dd_zps96f84044.jpgMay the Big Swede rest in peace. The picture is super cool. How I imagine you would look.

[easy cheesy]

God bless you and yours Swede. God bless and Godspeed to Papa as well.

[swede]

Thanks, miss cheese. The Packerrat family has been kind and supportive, as usual.

[swede]

Oddly enough, I have been spending the weekend in St. Louis. From the rooftop balcony of the hotel I can see the pitchers mound of the Cardinals stadium, the base of the Gateway Arch and the football arena. St. Louis has been delicious. Tomorrow it is Pappy's barbecue and Drew's custard. A local tour guide (He referred to himself as a 'speereinsed tur god,") suggested I must be from Utah or sumtin when I declined his services for twenty dollars. Other than the tur god incident, St. Louis is easy to navigate between the Metrolink trains and buses and pedestrianship.

[Freak Out]

Bull - 1
Idiots - 0

http://i.imgur.com/eYWYjFg.gif

[mraynrand]

Bull - 1
Idiots - 0

http://i.imgur.com/eYWYjFg.gif

Was that guy wearing an Obama mask?

[GrnBay007]

Tossed like a rag doll!

[MJZiggy]

Anyone near DC want to go to the Maryland game tomorrow? I have a spare ticket.

[Bretsky]

I went to the Badger game with my five year old son today
He used somebodies binoculars and was scoping out the girls down by Bucky
I asked me son if he sees any hottie girls..........his reply

All the cheerleaders are hottie girls

[Freak Out]

http://i.imgur.com/uHD4NvC.gif

[George Cumby]

For the first time in my life, I am aroused by a mime.

[MJZiggy]

Just got back from Wisco. Almost missed my flight home because I couldn't leave my friend's house before the game ended...got off the plane in DC and realized I was still in full Packer gear. He he he.

[mraynrand]

Just got back from Wisco. Almost missed my flight home because I couldn't leave my friend's house before the game ended...got off the plane in DC and realized I was still in full Packer gear. He he he.

they let you wear a helmet on the plane?

[MJZiggy]

they let you wear a helmet on the plane?
No, but there was not a scrap of clothing on my body that didn't have a Packer logo on it...

[mraynrand]

No, but there was not a scrap of clothing on my body that didn't have a Packer logo on it...

I stopped reading after 'body'

[SkinBasket]

http://i.imgur.com/uHD4NvC.gif

Thank you.

[Freak Out]

You are most welcome Skin.

So who lives in the Wadena/Alexandria area of Minnesota? The wife and I came down on tuesday to be with her father in his last days....I am heading home but will be back soon if anyone wants to get a beer or two when I'm back. Bretsky? Harv? I will be flying in and out of MSP so could meet anywhere really.

[Freak Out]

Howie....you live in the MSP area correct?

[Bretsky]

I think Harv....maybe Cheesehead Craig, and Rastak are in that area.

I'm in the mighty Madison Area...aka...Badger Country

[Iron Mike]

You are most welcome Skin.

So who lives in the Wadena/Alexandria area of Minnesota? The wife and I came down on tuesday to be with her father in his last days....I am heading home but will be back soon if anyone wants to get a beer or two when I'm back. Bretsky? Harv? I will be flying in and out of MSP so could meet anywhere really.

Make sure you get a Grain Belt at the airport.

[Joemailman]

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/1392782_168860529986433_718580765_n.jpg

[MJZiggy]

People downstairs are having a(nother) loud confrontation. I understand having arguments and all, but when it's habitual screaming matches, then why bother anymore. She has a kid and I'm sure the little guy could do without all this...

[call_me_ishmael]

Anybody wanna go out and party in Pewaukee?

[Joemailman]

A couple Boy Scout leaders knocked over a 170 million year old rock formation and then celebrated. Fortunately, the 2 geniuses were smart enough to record it.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/228328241.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AYFD18BwmJ4

[red]

boy thats something to really be proud of

probably the hardest that fat fuck has worked at doing anything other than eating for awhile

was that a national or state park? could be defacing a national park or some damn thing

[Bretsky]

I have relatives who are morons
My very elderly grandma just had a stroke and has to be put in a home
They will drain her savings as well as the home the home that is paid in full...or they could

Be smart

When you hit your 80's sing it all over to your kids

[Joemailman]

boy thats something to really be proud of

probably the hardest that fat fuck has worked at doing anything other than eating for awhile

was that a national or state park? could be defacing a national park or some damn thing

It was a state park. They're considering pressing criminal charges.

[red]

I have relatives who are morons
My very elderly grandma just had a stroke and has to be put in a home
They will drain her savings as well as the home the home that is paid in full...or they could

Be smart

When you hit your 80's sing it all over to your kids

when my grandfather died he left a nice chunk of money and a warning the my granda was slipping

not too long after it was time for the old folks home. first place was like 4 thousand a month, second one was 6 thousand a month, the final one she was in was close to 10 grand i believe

she lived in nursing home for a nice long 10 years

she died the day after my uncle made the payment to the nursing home with the very last of her money

my dad and uncle got squat. and the sad part was it didn't matter if grandma lived in a cardboard box under a bridge or a giant palace because she didn't know where the hell she was or who she was anyways

[red]

It was a state park. They're considering pressing criminal charges.

i just saw on the news that they are gonna be pressing charges.

the one guy was interviewed and kept saying some little kid was gonna get by and get squashed by it.

yep, i rock that has been there for 170 million years is just gonna decide its finally time to jump up and land on a kid passing by

[MJZiggy]

i just saw on the news that they are gonna be pressing charges.

the one guy was interviewed and kept saying some little kid was gonna get by and get squashed by it.

yep, i rock that has been there for 170 million years is just gonna decide its finally time to jump up and land on a kid passing by

So, uh, dude. What are you in for?
Morons.

[red]

So, uh, dude. What are you in for?
Morons.

yeah, i kicked a 170 million year old rocks ass

[George Cumby]

A couple Boy Scout leaders knocked over a 170 million year old rock formation and then celebrated. Fortunately, the 2 geniuses were smart enough to record it.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/228328241.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AYFD18BwmJ4


It's always the Morons or the Boy Scouts. It creates an unholy synergy when coupled.

[sooner6600]

It was said they did it in the name of stewardship of the outdoors.

I say let the door kick em in the behind.

I wonder if they still break rocks in the Utah prison.
hahahahahahahahahaha :bang:

[Little Whiskey]

when my grandfather died he left a nice chunk of money and a warning the my granda was slipping

not too long after it was time for the old folks home. first place was like 4 thousand a month, second one was 6 thousand a month, the final one she was in was close to 10 grand i believe

she lived in nursing home for a nice long 10 years

she died the day after my uncle made the payment to the nursing home with the very last of her money

my dad and uncle got squat. and the sad part was it didn't matter if grandma lived in a cardboard box under a bridge or a giant palace because she didn't know where the hell she was or who she was anyways

When I die the check to the undertaker will bounce.

[Freak Out]

I was really wanting to see that dumb fuck get crushed.

[Freak Out]

So I have spent the last day and a half kicking around the Twin Cities.....hitting the beer joints for the most part. Good stuff in the local market....love the happy gnome.

[call_me_ishmael]

I have relatives who are morons
My very elderly grandma just had a stroke and has to be put in a home
They will drain her savings as well as the home the home that is paid in full...or they could

Be smart

When you hit your 80's sing it all over to your kids

How do you do this, though? Aren't there serious tax implications of gifting that much money?

Can you use trusts to get around issues like this?

[Bretsky]

How do you do this, though? Aren't there serious tax implications of gifting that much money?

Can you use trusts to get around issues like this?


You can gift a certain amount each year, I think..w/o implications.

But to this specific instance, what I'm suggesting is in regards to a house that is owned Free and Clear

You have to get that out of your name and into your kids name to prevent a health care organization to take every penny of the equity

[red]

so i just read somewhere that the big fat fuck that pushed that rock off the spot its been on for 170 million years out of fears that it might fall on some kid, sued a guy last year whos daughter was in car car that hit him

guys saying he's too disable because of the accident to do anything anymore

if i were the judge, i'd tell this guy the same thing i told some fat fuck at mehnards who took the last rascal forcing me to hobble all over the store 2 weeks after my surgery, only to watch him stand up and carry his wife purchases out to the car without a problem. "being too fucking fat for your own legs to hold up is not a handicap, its a way of life you have chosen"

[MJZiggy]

I can agree with this. If you're going to use that thing, it should because you really can't do it on your own, not because you've never moved your whole life and don't know how.

[GrnBay007]

You can gift a certain amount each year, I think..w/o implications.

But to this specific instance, what I'm suggesting is in regards to a house that is owned Free and Clear

You have to get that out of your name and into your kids name to prevent a health care organization to take every penny of the equity

I believe you have to get it out of their name a certain amount of years prior to them going into a home. I'm thinking it's 5 but I'm not sure. Otherwise everyone would go get the house out of their parent's name a week before they go into a home. Obviously need to plan ahead and it's often a difficult conversation to have with your aging parents. I'm hoping when my time comes I am of sound mind and can take the lead and get all this done without stressing them.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm thinking the key is to get the house into your kids name early but have a contract drafted up that no matter what you can live in the house indefinitely. Gotta protect yourself.

I know my family has historically used trusts to pass money around but I think the days of doing that are kind of over. I think a lot of the loopholes to avoid taxes are closed.

Don't a lot of very rich people pay basically full price for life insurance right before they die... as in, take out 10M dollar policy whole life policy for 10M, possibly even taking a loss on the return (buying it for 11M) to avoid taxes? Life insurance returns can't be taxed presently if I remember correctly.

[3irty1]

I'm thinking the key is to get the house into your kids name early but have a contract drafted up that no matter what you can live in the house indefinitely. Gotta protect yourself.

I know my family has historically used trusts to pass money around but I think the days of doing that are kind of over. I think a lot of the loopholes to avoid taxes are closed.

Don't a lot of very rich people pay basically full price for life insurance right before they die... as in, take out 10M dollar policy whole life policy for 10M, possibly even taking a loss on the return (buying it for 11M) to avoid taxes? Life insurance returns can't be taxed presently if I remember correctly.

You can make a revocable trust to hold your assets with a successor, creating a durable power of attorney is much more attractive if you've got kids you can trust. Pretty sure that's my purpose as my parents have done a good job keeping me in a psychological prison of unselfishness. My brother and sister must be the kidney donors.

[Bretsky]

I believe you have to get it out of their name a certain amount of years prior to them going into a home. I'm thinking it's 5 but I'm not sure. Otherwise everyone would go get the house out of their parent's name a week before they go into a home. Obviously need to plan ahead and it's often a difficult conversation to have with your aging parents. I'm hoping when my time comes I am of sound mind and can take the lead and get all this done without stressing them.


You are right; it is 5 years
I'm prety outspoken on some topics; modest on others.
I told my parents they were stupid on this and everybody should be doing this
One of my parents who speaks before thinking noted they weren't signing the home over to us (brother and I)
Then I told her she was an idiot too then
It was all good..........but for gosh sakes...hopefully others can learn from stupid mistakes like this

[MJZiggy]

You can gift a certain amount each year, I think..w/o implications.

But to this specific instance, what I'm suggesting is in regards to a house that is owned Free and Clear

You have to get that out of your name and into your kids name to prevent a health care organization to take every penny of the equity

A few years ago, it was less than $10K.

[Patler]

I have relatives who are morons
My very elderly grandma just had a stroke and has to be put in a home
They will drain her savings as well as the home the home that is paid in full...or they could

Be smart

When you hit your 80's sing it all over to your kids

I told my parents that their assets were their assets, to be used in what ever way they want. Preserving their assets to pass down to me and my siblings should not be a concern or obligation, unless that is what they want. Both are/were fiercely independent, and wanted to take care of themselves, through their own means, for as long as possible.

My father died some years ago in his 90's, my mother is still alive and in her 90's. She owns their house free and clear, and it remains in her name. She wants to know it is hers, and the value is available to take care of her if ever needed.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

[call_me_ishmael]

I told my parents that their assets were their assets, to be used in what ever way they want. Preserving their assets to pass down to me and my siblings should not be a concern or obligation, unless that is what they want. Both are/were fiercely independent, and wanted to take care of themselves, through their own means, for as long as possible.

My father died some years ago in his 90's, my mother is still alive and in her 90's. She owns their house free and clear, and it remains in her name. She wants to know it is hers, and the value is available to take care of her if ever needed.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

I can really see it both ways. It's a tough topic. You spent your whole life working hard and doing things right and see all of your independence stripped away at an old age - that's rough. On the other hand, it is foolish to flush money down the toilet.

I'm a stingy bastard so I suspect I will do what makes the most sense monetarily. Who knows, I may feel differently when I'm a wiley 90 year old.

Anybody have any thoughts on the life insurance hack? Buy an expensive whole life policy at old age at cost or even a loss to avoid taxes?

[3irty1]

I can really see it both ways. It's a tough topic. You spent your whole life working hard and doing things right and see all of your independence stripped away at an old age - that's rough. On the other hand, it is foolish to flush money down the toilet.

I'm a stingy bastard so I suspect I will do what makes the most sense monetarily. Who knows, I may feel differently when I'm a wiley 90 year old.

Anybody have any thoughts on the life insurance hack? Buy an expensive whole life policy at old age at cost or even a loss to avoid taxes?

I believe a big policy can count towards your federal estate tax. I think the cap for your whole estate is 5 million though. If you've got a successor with power of attorney they might be able to take the policy out on you such that they have the incidents of ownership and avoid estate tax. My great uncle had an estate planner work with him to get his estate down to that number and pile the rest into farmland as you can pass the family farm on tax free. At least that was how it was explained to me back in high school, that's all 2nd or 3rd hand information.

Isn't your family in the insurance business?

[Patler]

How is it flushing money down the toilet if you pay for your own care instead of giving the money to your relatives and having your care paid by someone else?

[Bretsky]

How is it flushing money down the toilet if you pay for your own care instead of giving the money to your relatives and having your care paid by someone else?


When you have dimensia...sp ? .............I'm not sure the quality of life and care is much better regardless. My parents are well off; my grandma is 99 and for the past five years they call her 3 times a day and visit her daily. And now she has a minor stroke, and is put into some facility that takes about 10G per month away. I may be bias or ignorant....but I think it's flushing 10G away per month rather than property planning for this.

[Bretsky]

I told my parents that their assets were their assets, to be used in what ever way they want. Preserving their assets to pass down to me and my siblings should not be a concern or obligation, unless that is what they want. Both are/were fiercely independent, and wanted to take care of themselves, through their own means, for as long as possible.

My father died some years ago in his 90's, my mother is still alive and in her 90's. She owns their house free and clear, and it remains in her name. She wants to know it is hers, and the value is available to take care of her if ever needed.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


I've been telling my parents for the past ten years they should be planning for what happened last week. As a parent given the same scenario my kids will have owned the home fifteen to twenty years already

[Patler]

When you have dimensia...sp ? .............I'm not sure the quality of life and care is much better regardless. My parents are well off; my grandma is 99 and for the past five years they call her 3 times a day and visit her daily. And now she has a minor stroke, and is put into some facility that takes about 10G per month away. I may be bias or ignorant....but I think it's flushing 10G away per month rather than property planning for this.


I've been telling my parents for the past ten years they should be planning for what happened last week. As a parent given the same scenario my kids will have owned the home fifteen to twenty years already

I have helped my children become well-established in life, each with jobs as professionals, so they are well capable of taking care of themselves. Consequently, I feel no obligation to provide for them after I die. If I can pass something on to them, fantastic. If not, they will still be just fine without it.

On the other hand, if I should need to be committed, or otherwise placed in a facility for my care, I feel that I should pay for it to the extent that I am able, not you or other taxpayers. If your grandparents had transferred their assets, someone would be paying the 10G per month for your grandma's care. The cost wouldn't disappear just because she had no financial means to pay for it herself.

If I had a child who needed care after I was gone, I am sure I would feel differently.

[Little Whiskey]

This is the point in the conversation where it turns political.

Who is responsible for your long term care? You or the tax payers.

[Bretsky]

This is the point in the conversation where it turns political.

Who is responsible for your long term care? You or the tax payers.


A great question
The current answer is:


If you have no money it's the tax payers
If you have money it's yours until your assets are drained
once your value is nothing it's the tax payers

[George Cumby]

I told my parents that their assets were their assets, to be used in what ever way they want. Preserving their assets to pass down to me and my siblings should not be a concern or obligation, unless that is what they want. Both are/were fiercely independent, and wanted to take care of themselves, through their own means, for as long as possible.

My father died some years ago in his 90's, my mother is still alive and in her 90's. She owns their house free and clear, and it remains in her name. She wants to know it is hers, and the value is available to take care of her if ever needed.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

+1. Dad is 80, Mom is 76. Both healthy and living in the country on 40 acres. They don't want to leave the place and are holding on, as is their right.

If they leave something to us, great, it'll go to my kids college funds.

Signing their money to my brothers would be an unsound decision. Families can be hateful when that shit comes down.

[Upnorth]

If you are seriously talking about moving money from parent to child, have a family meeting with an agenda and try to get a third party mediator. When I do succession planning with clients I typically mediate a family meeting. Having a third party around has two main benefits, no family history and an independant person to take the anger out on. This can really help long term family dynamics, just make sure the planner has ties to either the parents or no one, or i could get dicey. As to the life insurance hack mentioned previously, I wish I could help but I don't know american tax law well enough, sorry.

[SkinBasket]

After researching the homosexual tendencies of billions of insects and spiders, scientists have concluded that it's a case of mistaken identity. Up to 85 percent of male insects engage in homosexual acts but scientists now believe that the same sex mating is accidental. Boasting one of the strongest evolutionary drives, the bugs reportedly are in such a hurry to reproduce that they do not take enough time to discern their potential mate's gender.

Doctor Inon Scharf of Tel Aviv University and Doctor Oliver Martin of ETH Zurich University published theirfindings in the journal of Behavioural Ecology and Sociobiology after reviewing past studies of 110 species of male insects and spiders, concluding there is almost no evolutionary advantage to insect homosexuality, unlike birds and some mammals.

“It is unclear what role evolution plays in this curious situation. Like heterosexual behavior, it takes time and energy and can be dangerous - and it lacks the potential payoff of procreation,” the authors noted.

The doctors propose in their study that insect homosexual activity occurs because males carry pheromones from previous sexual activities with other females. Those pheromones in turn attract other males.

Dr. Scharf said, "Homosexual behavior may be genomically linked to being more active, a better forager, or a better competitor. So even though misidentifying mates isn't a desirable trait, it's part of a package of traits that leaves the insect better adapted overall."

He also said "Insects and spiders mate quick and dirty.'

[Upnorth]

After researching the homosexual tendencies of billions of insects and spiders, scientists have concluded that it's a case of mistaken identity. Up to 85 percent of male insects engage in homosexual acts but scientists now believe that the same sex mating is accidental. Boasting one of the strongest evolutionary drives, the bugs reportedly are in such a hurry to reproduce that they do not take enough time to discern their potential mate's gender.

Doctor Inon Scharf of Tel Aviv University and Doctor Oliver Martin of ETH Zurich University published theirfindings in the journal of Behavioural Ecology and Sociobiology after reviewing past studies of 110 species of male insects and spiders, concluding there is almost no evolutionary advantage to insect homosexuality, unlike birds and some mammals.

“It is unclear what role evolution plays in this curious situation. Like heterosexual behavior, it takes time and energy and can be dangerous - and it lacks the potential payoff of procreation,” the authors noted.

The doctors propose in their study that insect homosexual activity occurs because males carry pheromones from previous sexual activities with other females. Those pheromones in turn attract other males.

Dr. Scharf said, "Homosexual behavior may be genomically linked to being more active, a better forager, or a better competitor. So even though misidentifying mates isn't a desirable trait, it's part of a package of traits that leaves the insect better adapted overall."

He also said "Insects and spiders mate quick and dirty.'

In university I had a buddy who made the same mistake at a party, we called him Gorgeous George after that incident.

[SkinBasket]

Was he more active, a better forager, or a better competitor than most of your friends?

[hoosier]

After researching the homosexual tendencies of billions of insects and spiders, scientists have concluded that it's a case of mistaken identity. Up to 85 percent of male insects engage in homosexual acts but scientists now believe that the same sex mating is accidental. Boasting one of the strongest evolutionary drives, the bugs reportedly are in such a hurry to reproduce that they do not take enough time to discern their potential mate's gender.

Doctor Inon Scharf of Tel Aviv University and Doctor Oliver Martin of ETH Zurich University published theirfindings in the journal of Behavioural Ecology and Sociobiology after reviewing past studies of 110 species of male insects and spiders, concluding there is almost no evolutionary advantage to insect homosexuality, unlike birds and some mammals.

“It is unclear what role evolution plays in this curious situation. Like heterosexual behavior, it takes time and energy and can be dangerous - and it lacks the potential payoff of procreation,” the authors noted.

The doctors propose in their study that insect homosexual activity occurs because males carry pheromones from previous sexual activities with other females. Those pheromones in turn attract other males.

Dr. Scharf said, "Homosexual behavior may be genomically linked to being more active, a better forager, or a better competitor. So even though misidentifying mates isn't a desirable trait, it's part of a package of traits that leaves the insect better adapted overall."

He also said "Insects and spiders mate quick and dirty.'

That has to be the best study ever. (1) Insects and other vermin are just like us: they cannot tell the difference between the males and females of their species; (2) Evolution cannot explain (human) sexuality. (Disclaimer: I like #2 for reasons that have nothing to do with the politicization of biology in US culture wars.)

[Upnorth]

Was he more active, a better forager, or a better competitor than most of your friends?

The scientific term is drunk and Horny I believe.

[George Cumby]

Was he more active, a better forager, or a better competitor than most of your friends?

I think he would fall into the "spray and pray" category.....

[Joemailman]

Gotta hand it to the OSU Band: Superman to the top of the Empire State Building:

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/social_assets/cfb/OhioStateBand/Superman.gif

[Bretsky]

Pretty cool; I wonder if their band is as crooked as their athletics ? :)

[call_me_ishmael]

Made this with chicken instead of beef (beef isn't on sale this week), threw in some extra jalapenos, and then used half of a white onion and a fistful of cilantro and it is THE BOMB!

http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/tex-mex-chili

[woodbuck27]

Gotta hand it to the OSU Band: Superman to the top of the Empire State Building:

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/social_assets/cfb/OhioStateBand/Superman.gif

That's so cool.

[Bretsky]

This is still Ohio State though

Hot Lesbians.....now they are cool !

[Bretsky]

WOOT WOOT

BADGER VOLLEYBALL IS IN THE FINAL FOUR !!!!

I must admit....I'd buy a nekkid calendar of that team

[Bretsky]

I am coaching my daughters 4th grade basketball team; we are a bunch of fast break run and gunners.
Kids are fun to coach at that age; you can give them the smallest goal/thing to achive and they'll try their hardest

We have a dual goal every game.

Score more than 20 points..........that is our offensive goal
Keep the opposition into single digits....that is our defensive goal.
We'll see how it works but the kids are focused on those two

Am I a bad guy for setting up a goal system that basically says we want to at least double the other teams points..........lol

1st game is down...Win 21-12
Next game tomorrow

[Bretsky]

Gametime 2 hours; my daugher has informed me she expects to go undefeated again this year. She is not short of confidence. Not a star, but a decent player with a very high BB IQ

[MJZiggy]

I am coaching my daughters 4th grade basketball team; we are a bunch of fast break run and gunners.
Kids are fun to coach at that age; you can give them the smallest goal/thing to achive and they'll try their hardest

We have a dual goal every game.

Score more than 20 points..........that is our offensive goal
Keep the opposition into single digits....that is our defensive goal.
We'll see how it works but the kids are focused on those two

Am I a bad guy for setting up a goal system that basically says we want to at least double the other teams points..........lol

1st game is down...Win 21-12
Next game tomorrow
Have you given them specific, performance-based subgoals that each kid can work on?

[mraynrand]

Have you given them specific, performance-based subgoals that each kid can work on?

make sure you have a performance review process in place:

https://cloudant.com/images/the-bobs.jpg

[Bretsky]

Have you given them specific, performance-based subgoals that each kid can work on?


I give them team goals and lt them know what to work on
At ages 9 and 10 I'm not giving them measurable goals via statistics

[MJZiggy]

I give them team goals and lt them know what to work on
At ages 9 and 10 I'm not giving them measurable goals via statistics

Of course not. Didn't M3 just say that statistics are for fools? I mean working on things like sinking three free throws for the girl who struggles with it a little and then helping her achieve that goal. LOL, rand. Or say for the girl who can't run as fast, to just once show herself that she can run across the court as fast as the pack on a fast break. Just individual and specific things that they can work on to support the team goal.

[Bretsky]

We do those types of goals in practice........in games........I set goals with one theme

Kick the other teams ass :)))

[woodbuck27]

Of course not. Didn't M3 just say that statistics are for fools? I mean working on things like sinking three free throws for the girl who struggles with it a little and then helping her achieve that goal. LOL, rand. Or say for the girl who can't run as fast, to just once show herself that she can run across the court as fast as the pack on a fast break. Just individual and specific things that they can work on to support the team goal.

I'm picturing these girls running two lengths of the gym before BJ Raji runs one.

Would that be an accomplishment?

[call_me_ishmael]

These are both really funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tieA5wfcgH4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obyRPfWDICE

[Bretsky]

I'm picturing these girls running two lengths of the gym before BJ Raji runs one.

Would that be an accomplishment?


I think it might be closer to three laps

This year we were short players so I recruited a couple from our school and now we're kicking it

Perhaps Ted should hire me during free agency

[call_me_ishmael]

Anybody here run their own business? I find it very challenging to identify what to do versus what not to do. There are so many options available today and making the right choice is very challenging. You don't know what you don't know, so perspective is always limited in the sense of knowing what people use, etc. It's a frustrating but exciting problem.

[Kiwon]

Someone help! I think I have HTML and it's itching like crazy!!!

1 in 10 Americans think HTML is an STD, study finds

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-1-10-americans-html-std-study-finds-20140304,0,1188415.story#ixzz2v2w5tbZX

[woodbuck27]

I think it might be closer to three laps

This year we were short players so I recruited a couple from our school and now we're kicking it

Perhaps Ted should hire me during free agency

If that's the case he won't be reading Packerrats

After some here like me your in the next tier of TT critics.

[Kiwon]

Thomas Aquinas died today in 1274.

What have you done to be remembered after 740 years? :wink:

[mraynrand]

Thomas Aquinas died today in 1274.

What have you done to be remembered after 740 years? :wink:

photoshopped 'Ole Cleedeeus?

http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb449/route25/cleedeeus.jpg

[woodbuck27]

Thomas Aquinas died today in 1274.

What have you done to be remembered after 740 years? :wink:

I'm working on that book.

[Zool]

Hard to describe......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWZOMcR--9g#aid=P72UD_f3xLA

[Joemailman]

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1185144_10152375286229203_1009489306_n.jpg

[Bretsky]

I love girls that love girls

[Bretsky]

Not happy the NFL Draft is over Mother's day weekend; this is supposed to be football time.

[woodbuck27]

Not happy the NFL Draft is over Mother's day weekend; this is supposed to be football time.

Choose MUM over football.

Your food will taste better.

[mraynrand]

Choose MUM over football.

Your food will taste better.

sexist

[mraynrand]

I've discovered a wonderful secret!

you never told us what it was!

[Joemailman]

you never told us what it was!

Well then it wouldn't be a secret. Would it?

[mraynrand]

Well then it wouldn't be a secret. Would it?

What's the limit on the number of people who can know a secret and still have it be a secret? Isn't it just N-1, where N = the entire population of humanity. I would pick you as the one guy who doesn't get to know.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.livescience.com/28132-what-is-nothing-physicists-debate.html


What Is Nothing? Physicists Debate

BY: Clara Moskowitz, LiveScience Senior Writer ... March 22, 2013 04:27pm ET

" What is nothing? Empty space? The absence of something? Scientists are hard-pressed to define the concept. "

Comment woodbuck27:

How can nothing exist when nothing is by definition something?

This successful Packerats Romper Room tread is a proof of that.

It's really become...something...and even in certain regards...something .... else.

How can something...be something else?

It's all so confusing when you take time to think about it.

So .......why think !? Have a beer instead. Ohh no...what brand of beer do you desire right now? Your not sure?

Go back to nothing....and at least....that's something.

[Joemailman]

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1383773_10153695810355431_1153430437_n.jpg

[Bretsky]

I am going to St Louis and then Branson on a one week getaway with the family early June
I hate country music

Anybody have any must do suggestions ????

[Zool]

Earplugs and liquor.

[mraynrand]

Don't forget to visit lovely E. St. Louis

http://www.chevychasecentral.com/vacation/ghetto.jpg

[MJZiggy]

I am going to St Louis and then Branson on a one week getaway with the family early June
I hate country music

Anybody have any must do suggestions ????

A friend of mine runs a place in St. L called the Jazz Bistro. Some pretty cool people have shown up there.

[mraynrand]

Every morning I wake up and the grass is longer.

[Bretsky]

A friend of mine runs a place in St. L called the Jazz Bistro. Some pretty cool people have shown up there.




Is she HOT ??