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[Deputy Nutz]

When did they say the wouldn't trade him? When did they say they wouldn't let him compete?


Use your head, Nutz. Sometimes it works better than your heart.

You seriously want to talk shit? I am the only one using my head, either everyone is all fuckng pissed and angry at Favre for fucking with their emotions, or they are out protesting in front of Lambeau to bring Favre back.

At no point has Thompson said anything about competition, or a trade, his only comment has been that the Packers have no intention of releasing him. So you get your shit straight. Remember no mention as of yet on any of the above, we have heard that they will take him back as long as he is willing to be a back up. I don't know the truth to that, Thompson hasn't come out and said it. Favre did say it in his interview.

[RashanGary]

As soon as a player loses his starting spot you don't release him on the spot if he says he wants to play

Even if he's all pissed off, you don't do that. It happens all of the time in sports. It sucks, but someitmes when this much money is involved it gets a little crazy.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Again, why weren't you in favor of granting Javon Walker an unconditional release?

The whole Walker thing was about MONEY. Have we heard Favre mention ANYTHING about money? NO................he just wants to PLAY. Damn, I never thought I'd hear Packer fans complain about a HOF QB just want to play and be REJECTED. Friends/relatives have called.....even BEAR fans, and said what the hell is going on in GB that they don't want Favre. It's really not that complicated.

ACtually it is very complicated. FAvre was only rejected after a long series of attempts to bring him back. By July, the team had moved on. The team was extremely patient with Favre's waffling. And now you have swallowed Favre's self-pity story, hook line and sinker, that he was brutally rejected.

[RashanGary]

When did they say the wouldn't trade him? When did they say they wouldn't let him compete?


Use your head, Nutz. Sometimes it works better than your heart.

You seriously want to talk shit? I am the only one using my head, either everyone is all fuckng pissed and angry at Favre for fucking with their emotions, or they are out protesting in front of Lambeau to bring Favre back.

At no point has Thompson said anything about competition, or a trade, his only comment has been that the Packers have no intention of releasing him. So you get your shit straight. Remember no mention as of yet on any of the above, we have heard that they will take him back as long as he is willing to be a back up. I don't know the truth to that, Thompson hasn't come out and said it. Favre did say it in his interview.

Is this the only way you know how to talk to poeple? We can go dig up the things you said and the things I refuted and you'll still be wrong but I don't care to and quite frankly this conversation is over if you can't talk to me with a little more respect than you are.

[Deputy Nutz]

Well lets answer your stupid little question, how can they black ball him. Refuse to let him compete as for a starting position with their team, and then refuse to trade him or release him. Sit on him until he has no other choice but to go away.

This is a funny definition of a "black ball": pay somebody 12M dollars to sit on your bench, then treat them like shit so they become a team cancer.

Wish somebody would black ball me! And I'm not talking about interracial sex.

The scenario you paint is totally ridiculous, counter productive for the team, and not going to happen.

Favre isn't doing this for 12 million dollars. Favre isn't going to show up in Green Bay to prove a point numbnuts. If he doesn't have the word of McCarthy that he would get a fair shot at the starting position, he isn't going to show up. At least I would hope not.

[RashanGary]

Oh gawd, Nutz. Don't be so damn dramatic.

The Packers said they don't wnat him to come out of retirement. He still has a choice. Favre isn't Thompson's gimp locked in teh basement getting molested.

Fuck, dude. Get a grip

[Harlan Huckleby]

nutz, "black ball" means prevent someone from working professionally.

what you have described, and i don't know if it even true, is that MM has simply soured on Favre and doesn't want him QBing his team.

That is not a black ball. That is simply McCarthy exercising his judgement as he is entitled to.

[Pacopete4]

I don't think MM even really said he doesn't want him as his QB.. he basically said that it would be hard to pull the rug out from Arod now that he's gone thru mini camps and that stuff... everyone needs to quit putting their own twists on things..

[Deputy Nutz]

When did they say the wouldn't trade him? When did they say they wouldn't let him compete?


Use your head, Nutz. Sometimes it works better than your heart.

You seriously want to talk shit? I am the only one using my head, either everyone is all fuckng pissed and angry at Favre for fucking with their emotions, or they are out protesting in front of Lambeau to bring Favre back.

At no point has Thompson said anything about competition, or a trade, his only comment has been that the Packers have no intention of releasing him. So you get your shit straight. Remember no mention as of yet on any of the above, we have heard that they will take him back as long as he is willing to be a back up. I don't know the truth to that, Thompson hasn't come out and said it. Favre did say it in his interview.

Is this the only way you know how to talk to poeple? We can go dig up the things you said and the things I refuted and you'll still be wrong but I don't care to and quite frankly this conversation is over if you can't talk to me with a little more respect than you are.

Simply you are the one taking shots, And if you think I actually need to have a conversation with you about this situation you are fucking delusional. Sorry but I would rather ride the Favre Bandwagon than the Aaron Rodgers one, sorry. And why the fuck would I be wrong? You have attached your wagon to the unproven commodity regardless on how much ass you think he has already kicked, laughable, simply laughable, almost as funny as your little mathematical experiment you tried this past winter.

There will come a time that Favre will no longer be able to play at an acceptable level, has that time come yet? Nope, sorry it hasn't. Can he play better and give the Packers a better shot than Rodgers? Probable, but he is 38, age is a motherfucker. He is coming off an NFC Championship appearance, and runner up as the NFL MVP. He hasn't suffered any serious injuries that would effect his mobility or his throwing ability outside of his age. Rodgers, injured after almost every game he has ever played in the NFL regular season. Who is wrong now?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Now that he has come around to the idea of playing again a month before training camp, and after a few attempts to find out if he is really, really, really retired, and with no 100 commitment from him until recently, who would really expect that someone wouldn't move on? Why doesn't he see the position he put the team in with is his indecision enough to say, well, if I do come back, I gotta accept what they say and the best I can hope for is to compete for my job back?

I love Brett, but I think you hit it right here. Brett's a coddled, star QB. More likeable and better than 99% of the QBs in NFL history, but he's still a coddled, star QB. He's self-centered. Always has been. I think there are other situations that show his self-centeredness, but I won't go down that road. Nothing that wrong with it. Most star QBs are like this. If he took a step back and really looked at the situation, I think he'd go your route. Unfortunately, I think he thought the Packers would take him back with open arms--no matter when he made his decision. Maybe it was an ego thing between him and Thompson and McCarthy. Perhaps he didn't like being "pressured" into making a decision.

[Deputy Nutz]

nutz, "black ball" means prevent someone from working professionally.

what you have described, and i don't know if it even true, is that MM has simply soured on Favre and doesn't want him QBing his team.

That is not a black ball. That is simply McCarthy exercising his judgement as he is entitled to.

Thanks for proving my point.

[Deputy Nutz]

Oh gawd, Nutz. Don't be so damn dramatic.

The Packers said they don't wnat him to come out of retirement. He still has a choice. Favre isn't Thompson's gimp locked in teh basement getting molested.

Fuck, dude. Get a grip

Isn't it time you go and lick your dogs nuts? funny how you give me this little warning and then just start fucking tripping.

[RashanGary]

When did they say the wouldn't trade him? When did they say they wouldn't let him compete?


Use your head, Nutz. Sometimes it works better than your heart.

You seriously want to talk shit? I am the only one using my head, either everyone is all fuckng pissed and angry at Favre for fucking with their emotions, or they are out protesting in front of Lambeau to bring Favre back.

At no point has Thompson said anything about competition, or a trade, his only comment has been that the Packers have no intention of releasing him. So you get your shit straight. Remember no mention as of yet on any of the above, we have heard that they will take him back as long as he is willing to be a back up. I don't know the truth to that, Thompson hasn't come out and said it. Favre did say it in his interview.

Is this the only way you know how to talk to poeple? We can go dig up the things you said and the things I refuted and you'll still be wrong but I don't care to and quite frankly this conversation is over if you can't talk to me with a little more respect than you are.

Simply you are the one taking shots, And if you think I actually need to have a conversation with you about this situation you are fucking delusional. Sorry but I would rather ride the Favre Bandwagon than the Aaron Rodgers one, sorry. And why the fuck would I be wrong? You have attached your wagon to the unproven commodity regardless on how much ass you think he has already kicked, laughable, simply laughable, almost as funny as your little mathematical experiment you tried this past winter.

There will come a time that Favre will no longer be able to play at an acceptable level, has that time come yet? Nope, sorry it hasn't. Can he play better and give the Packers a better shot than Rodgers? Probable, but he is 38, age is a motherfucker. He is coming off an NFC Championship appearance, and runner up as the NFL MVP. He hasn't suffered any serious injuries that would effect his mobility or his throwing ability outside of his age. Rodgers, injured after almost every game he has ever played in the NFL regular season. Who is wrong now?

Nobody is wrong, Nutz. You just stated what is called an opinion. Just read through this thread and really think about it. After some long hard deliberation I think you might understand why the world angers you so deeply

[RashanGary]

Oh gawd, Nutz. Don't be so damn dramatic.

The Packers said they don't wnat him to come out of retirement. He still has a choice. Favre isn't Thompson's gimp locked in teh basement getting molested.

Fuck, dude. Get a grip

Isn't it time you go and lick your dogs nuts? funny how you give me this little warning and then just start fucking tripping.

Hey ass hole. I'm not tripping. I'm going to slash your tires if you keep this up.

[Deputy Nutz]

Now that he has come around to the idea of playing again a month before training camp, and after a few attempts to find out if he is really, really, really retired, and with no 100 commitment from him until recently, who would really expect that someone wouldn't move on? Why doesn't he see the position he put the team in with is his indecision enough to say, well, if I do come back, I gotta accept what they say and the best I can hope for is to compete for my job back?

I love Brett, but I think you hit it right here. Brett's a coddled, star QB. More likeable and better than 99% of the QBs in NFL history, but he's still a coddled, star QB. He's self-centered. Always has been. I think there are other situations that show his self-centeredness, but I won't go down that road. Nothing that wrong with it. Most star QBs are like this. If he took a step back and really looked at the situation, I think he'd go your route. Unfortunately, I think he thought the Packers would take him back with open arms--no matter when he made his decision. Maybe it was an ego thing between him and Thompson and McCarthy. Perhaps he didn't like being "pressured" into making a decision.

Exactly.