NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

[pbmax]

Well, he is the personality along with the sports star. He can ask for and get that treatment. If T2 had called up Larry King or Oprah or Good Morning America, they would have had to Google him to figure out who he was.

Favre has been staying away from the local reporters for years now, especially since Havel went away. But Wilde, the Press Gazette and McGinn/Silverstein don't get much from him except at news conferences.

Was there a question about the March near-unretirement?

nope

Was there a question about anything??? - Nope!
Just an awful interview. VanSustern replied for him. If he didn't get it out clearly, she filled it in for him.

She should be embarassed by her performance, in my opinion. It was clearly a Brett Favre fan giving Favre a national podium, not a news reporter/commentator trying to cut through the spin to get down to the facts.

So very many questions that SHOULD be asked.

[Bretsky]

Stupid only if they wanted him back. If, as Woodbuck believes, they wanted him gone, that was a statement that seems designed to get Favre to publicly ask to be moved.

It still doesn't make sense, since they can't agree on trade versus release, but if they wanted him to publicly declare a desire to leave, then that might have done it.

Merlin and Zig thanks. I also believe I read a rumor/leak that he was going to be the backup if he returned. But if they aren't on the record about that, then there is still room to negotiate.

TT in his initial interview said that he could come back to the team but his role would be different. Then, when the media went nuts on his statement he said that he didn't say backup, that they hadn't decided anything and he'd never dealt with anything like this before.

They would be stupid to say anything like that on record

There is one obviously glaring difference

According to Favre at this point they do not want him back
According to TT and the interview it "appears" possible for him to come back...although he used his words wisely

IMO it would be stupid to say that because some fans would rip him; TT knows how to work the media more than some give him credit for.

This is sickening; at this point I just hope he gets moved ....yesterday

[Tyrone Bigguns]

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Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

Once again, agreed. They guy likes Justin Harrel for faks sake, how creditable can someone be to jump on the bandwagon of a guy who has been nothing but injured for two years and also on the bandwagon of a guy who has only proved he can offend the fan base?

I have nothing against his support for Rodgers, Harrel, etc. I have a problem with the disrespect showed towards Favre. No real Packer fan would ever talk about one of the greatest players ever, like that.

No real packer fan would disrespect the coach and management as well.

TT is the packer's leader. From day one people have been against him. TT represents the packers organization. The org will be there long after individual players have come and gone.

[digitaldean]

Maybe Brett felt pressured. But let's look at this from the draft perspective.

TT and M3 must have had the hots for Brohm all along. Why would they have planned on drafting a QB so high if they were unsure if BF would be back? They would've passed on him and just taken Flynn or some other camp arm.

The team does have to plan. Brett was at least honest and told them how he felt. But if he wanted them to wait longer than the draft to make up his mind, he needs to rethink things a little.

I still am irked at some of the special treatment. Skipping OTA's or QB school, that MAY be passable. But waiting on pins and needles until training camp or having the separate locker room shows me a little of a backhanded slap to the team. May not be intentional but it comes across that way.

My employer switched my company's work schedule as of Jan. 1. We were told these were the hours, like it or lump it irregardless how it affected me or my family. I think a lot of athletes need to get shocked a little just like that to realize that someone actually is calling the shots and it's not them. You know, the real world where people can get let go at a moment's notice?!

BF may not like the scenario he's in now, but the past few years of these soap operas have worn thin with management and probably a lot of fans.

[pbmax]

Agreed on the rips, even the suggestion of the roster shuffle seems to have become the headline out of Saturday's interviews. He would have been better to say its for the coaches to decide and they decide that during TC.

IMO it would be stupid to say that because some fans would rip him; TT knows how to work the media more than some give him credit for.

This is sickening; at this point I just hope he gets moved ....yesterday

[green_bowl_packer]

Was there a question about the March near-unretirement?

nope

Was there a question about anything??? - Nope!
Just an awful interview. VanSustern replied for him. If he didn't get it out clearly, she filled it in for him.

She should be embarassed by her performance, in my opinion. It was clearly a Brett Favre fan giving Favre a national podium, not a news reporter/commentator trying to cut through the spin to get down to the facts.

So very many questions that SHOULD be asked.

I agree with you, whole different interview if it's done by ESPN/NFLN/Peter King/anyone who covers profootball for a living. . .

It was more of a venting by Brett.

[Packerarcher]

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Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

I have said things like this many times about JH. When Rodgers has a shitty season, and Brett is not there to save the Pack we will see how loud and proud JH is TT & Hangnail Rodgers.

[PackerTimer]

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Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

Once again, agreed. They guy likes Justin Harrel for faks sake, how creditable can someone be to jump on the bandwagon of a guy who has been nothing but injured for two years and also on the bandwagon of a guy who has only proved he can offend the fan base?

I have nothing against his support for Rodgers, Harrel, etc. I have a problem with the disrespect showed towards Favre. No real Packer fan would ever talk about one of the greatest players ever, like that.

No real packer fan would disrespect the coach and management as well.

TT is the packer's leader. From day one people have been against him. TT represents the packers organization. The org will be there long after individual players have come and gone.

Really? I thought we were going to fold up the franchise. Funny thing though. When he "retired" on March 3, most people were ok with the future of the team. Most people seemed ok with Rodgers leading the team. Now the team is screwed with the oft injured, won't stay healthy for two games, blah, blah, blah AROD leading the team. Really nothing has changed but now they suck without Favre. I don't get it.

[PackerTimer]

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Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

I have said things like this many times about JH. When Rodgers has a shitty season, and Brett is not there to save the Pack we will see how loud and proud JH is TT & Hangnail Rodgers.

If JH needs to STFU, you aren't far behind him. Your "hangnail" Rodgers crap is tired.

[GBRulz]

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No real packer fan would disrespect the coach and management as well.

TT is the packer's leader. From day one people have been against him. TT represents the packers organization. The org will be there long after individual players have come and gone.

Thank you for that extra special glimpse into your life, but I don't see us disrespecting TT & Co. We may not agree with him at times, but that's a big difference from the constant put downs that some feel the need to do with Favre.

[Partial]

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After Tonights interview, I can't ever see Favre in Green Bay again.

He was brash; He is bitter. He is unhappy.

Continually said MM and/or Packer brass noted

You can't come back to play in GB
But we can't envision you playing somewhere else

It was very obvious that he felt pressured to make a decision sooner than he was ready......whether his perception is right or wrong.

Havel said this in April. That is how Favre feels about it. The problem is, the offseason is when guys get together and grow something special for the up coming season. IT's not right for Favre to leave his teammates to work and then just show up on Sundays like he's one of the guys. I think Brett Favre lost his ground and thinks he's above his teammates. I don't think MM or TT were ready to take him back with the disrespect he's shown to the guys he plays with.

I'm pretty sure Favre was burned out from working 24/7 on football while A-rod was either getting hurt or out drinking with GBR. Some commitment to the game he has. STFU with your stupid propaganda.

[Gunakor]

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When Rodgers has a shitty season, and Brett is not there to save the Pack we will see how loud and proud JH is TT & Hangnail Rodgers.

Will you even show your face around here anymore when Rodgers has a great season and the Packers are playing at Lambeau in January again this year?

[SnakeLH2006]

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Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

I agree, and don't understand all the Favre hate lately. It's getting ridiculous. Seems like a bunch of misinformation from both the Packers Brass/Favre.

Bottom line, I saw both TT and Favre in their media soundoff in the past few days. Yes, Favre's seems bitter, but wouldn't you be too? He didn't sound wishy-washy as many have said on here, and hearing that crap really discourages people to post regularly on here when the same old BS from a few bashers on here gets posted over and over ad nauseum.

I'm holding my tongue till this gets sorted out till I start slinging BS about the greatest player we've seen in the past 2 decades in Green and Gold. Bottom line, I believe Favre WILL be starting this season for GB, when all is said and done.

Really I don't mean to be an ass. But what would give you the impression that he'll be GB's starting QB?

Just my 2 cents...but having a job in HR is a boon in reading people. From looking at Favre, and his body language, it really did not seem he was slinging hate on the Pack, so much as he wanted to come off as genuine, which I believe he did. From what he said, the way he talked about the fans, etc....He never said he wouldn't want to play for GB, just he would not be a backup.

As a long as common sense ensues and Favre doesn't say anything too asinine tommorrow, it does not look as bad seeing the interview, as everything written does. I do believe TT wants to start the boatride with AR, but if Favre signs those reinstatement papers, I think he knows enough to sit down and talk it out with the whole team. He's an emotional guy, I think he knows this is fucked up, and I doubt he really wants to alienate GB's fans/his legacy, and personally, I feel there is no way he doesn't play after all this, less the last memories of him are of a bitter, has-been, diva QB that many have been painting him as lately.

Looks like he doesn't want to look like a bad guy...and knows better than to start over at age 39 with a new system....This all comes down to TT and MM accepting him, though. Personally, I'm excited to have AR as our QB, but would welcome Brett back if it happens, and be excited too...Too great options for different reasons.

No real inside info, just a hunch. But on a side note, I'm sick of all the hate going on here with the political divides between Brett and TT. It's gone too far. Granted when I heard Favre could "come back as a backup," I was appalled, but since have regained an even keel on this.

We're all Packer fans. I support MM, TT, Brett, and AR. Go Pack!!

[MJZiggy]

Was there a question about the March near-unretirement?

nope

Was there a question about anything??? - Nope!
Just an awful interview. VanSustern replied for him. If he didn't get it out clearly, she filled it in for him.

She should be embarassed by her performance, in my opinion. It was clearly a Brett Favre fan giving Favre a national podium, not a news reporter/commentator trying to cut through the spin to get down to the facts.

So very many questions that SHOULD be asked.

I agree with you, whole different interview if it's done by ESPN/NFLN/Peter King/anyone who covers profootball for a living. . .

It was more of a venting by Brett.

And that's why she got the interview...

[PackerTimer]

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No real packer fan would disrespect the coach and management as well.

TT is the packer's leader. From day one people have been against him. TT represents the packers organization. The org will be there long after individual players have come and gone.

Thank you for that extra special glimpse into your life, but I don't see us disrespecting TT & Co. We may not agree with him at times, but that's a big difference from the constant put downs that some feel the need to do with Favre.

That's funny. Don't get me wrong, I don't know that I can ever recall you disrespecting TT. But he has been soundly disrespected by a number of people.