OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[sheepshead]

Holmgren brought Favre to Green Bay in 1992 and molded the former option quarterback at Southern Mississippi into a champion and a legend, before the coach left for Seattle prior to the 1999 season. .

..and all this time I thought it was Wolf who brought Favre to GB!

'xactly, I'll bet dollars to donuts Holmy went "A first round pick for who??"
But that's the AP for you. They can pretty much write whatever they want and sleep well.

[Noodle]

I agree, it's time for him to hang up the cleats. I saw him in a presser yesterday and you can tell that he's ready to be done. Yet he says he doesn't regret coming to play for the Jets. Well, like he'd say so publicly anyhow.

GB, you know #4 better than anybody on this board -- don't you think he's kind of proud of what he accomplished in NY? I gotta think it's been a kick for him out there, kind of like dating a hot chick after you just got dumped.

[digitaldean]

Holmgren brought Favre to Green Bay in 1992 and molded the former option quarterback at Southern Mississippi into a champion and a legend, before the coach left for Seattle prior to the 1999 season. .

..and all this time I thought it was Wolf who brought Favre to GB!

'xactly, I'll bet dollars to donuts Holmy went "A first round pick for who??"
But that's the AP for you. They can pretty much write whatever they want and sleep well.

Fact checking from the AP?? For shame...

AP has shown over the past several years to have more opinion inserted into their stories and kind of gloss over facts.

[cpk1994]

Holmgren brought Favre to Green Bay in 1992 and molded the former option quarterback at Southern Mississippi into a champion and a legend, before the coach left for Seattle prior to the 1999 season. .

..and all this time I thought it was Wolf who brought Favre to GB!

'xactly, I'll bet dollars to donuts Holmy went "A first round pick for who??"
But that's the AP for you. They can pretty much write whatever they want and sleep well.

And you would lose that bet. Holmgren knew exactrly who Favre was. Holmgren was one of only 3 that personally worked Favre out prior to Favre being drafted. One of the others? Ron Wolf.

[sheepshead]

Holmgren brought Favre to Green Bay in 1992 and molded the former option quarterback at Southern Mississippi into a champion and a legend, before the coach left for Seattle prior to the 1999 season. .

..and all this time I thought it was Wolf who brought Favre to GB!

'xactly, I'll bet dollars to donuts Holmy went "A first round pick for who??"
But that's the AP for you. They can pretty much write whatever they want and sleep well.

And you would lose that bet. Holmgren knew exactrly who Favre was. Holmgren was one of only 3 that personally worked Favre out prior to Favre being drafted. One of the others? Ron Wolf.

Mike Holmgren as Offensive Coordinator worked out Brett Favre? I'd like to see some doc on that.
Besides, it's moot. Ron Wolf was the general manager and made the deal.

[cpk1994]

Holmgren brought Favre to Green Bay in 1992 and molded the former option quarterback at Southern Mississippi into a champion and a legend, before the coach left for Seattle prior to the 1999 season. .

..and all this time I thought it was Wolf who brought Favre to GB!

'xactly, I'll bet dollars to donuts Holmy went "A first round pick for who??"
But that's the AP for you. They can pretty much write whatever they want and sleep well.

And you would lose that bet. Holmgren knew exactrly who Favre was. Holmgren was one of only 3 that personally worked Favre out prior to Favre being drafted. One of the others? Ron Wolf.

Mike Holmgren as Offensive Coordinator worked out Brett Favre? I'd like to see some doc on that.
Besides, it's moot. Ron Wolf was the general manager and made the deal.

Yes, its in Favres book "For the Record":


"Several NFL teams considered me a fairly high draft pick, but they wanted to see me up close, so I held a pre-dreaft workout in Hattiesburg. Abnout twenty scouts showed up. Ron Wolf. Lindy Infante. Ken Meyer. June Jones. Mike White. I thought it was real impressive that all these guys were coming down to work me out.
It was the first time I met Mike Holmgren."

Brett goes on to point out that Mike was one of the only ones to sit and talk with him in the stands after the workout. Holmgren's quote from the book:

"We're pretty set there. But ffor future reference, if I ever need it, I wanted to work you out and see for myself."

Its pretty clear that Holmgren knew exactly who Favre was.

[Patler]

I don't doubt that Holmgren knew Favre, but since Holmgren himself had been hired less than a month before the Favre trade, was likely busy hiring a staff and moving at the time, and wasn't the GM or even a trusted confidant of the GM at the time (just the unproven, newly hired coach), I doubt Holmgren had much to do with the trade for Favre.

Besides, Wolf had wanted to draft Favre the year before anyway.

[packerbacker1234]

We've always heard about Favre's injuries. And the more he's played through, the more of a fuss is made about it which is fine. But if it's too hurt to play with and he plays anyway, that's just stupid. If he can't perform, he's only hurting the team.

Most of his more serious injuries, if you sat back, you would say "he's too hurt to play", but then he plays anyways, and more often then not, plays well.

It may be hurting his team, or maybe it's not? On 4th and 2 with the game still winable, favre threw a beautiful pass to coles, who once again in a big moment, dropped the ball. It's not all on favre: At the crucial moments, even hurt, he is still making plays. The other guys gotta step up.

I mean, it's no coincidence that in this losing 3 of 4, or 4 of 5 as it were, that suddenlt yhe jets OL can't pass block, are not opening running lanes, and WR/TE's are dropping balls. Sure, favre hasn't had a great game in over a month, but the people around him sure as hell are not helping.

At least favre when he is out there is still trying to win. Everyone else keeps getting this look in there eyes that they are teh "same ol' jets". Come on guys, get over it.

[gex]

Holmgren had a very big say in getting Favre into Green Bay, it has been stated many times.


Cmon Rats- lets get this official Favre thread over the 100 page mark!!!!----just another record for "The Man, The Myth, The Living Legend"

[cpk1994]

I don't doubt that Holmgren knew Favre, but since Holmgren himself had been hired less than a month before the Favre trade, was likely busy hiring a staff and moving at the time, and wasn't the GM or even a trusted confidant of the GM at the time (just the unproven, newly hired coach), I doubt Holmgren had much to do with the trade for Favre.

Besides, Wolf had wanted to draft Favre the year before anyway.

Holmgren may have had nothing to do with it, but he sure as hell was aware it was going to go down. And he definitely wasn't going "A first rounder for who" as per your fantasy bet.

[The Shadow]

Holmgren had a very big say in getting Favre into Green Bay, it has been stated many times.


Cmon Rats- lets get this official Favre thread over the 100 page mark!!!!----just another record for "The Man, The Myth, The Living Legend"

That will leave you only 10,000 short of the times you've sniffed his jock.

[Patler]

I don't doubt that Holmgren knew Favre, but since Holmgren himself had been hired less than a month before the Favre trade, was likely busy hiring a staff and moving at the time, and wasn't the GM or even a trusted confidant of the GM at the time (just the unproven, newly hired coach), I doubt Holmgren had much to do with the trade for Favre.

Besides, Wolf had wanted to draft Favre the year before anyway.

Holmgren may have had nothing to do with it, but he sure as hell was aware it was going to go down. And he definitely wasn't going "A first rounder for who" as per your fantasy bet.

My fantasy bet? What are you talking about? Must have me confused with someone else. I offered no bets about anything.

[cpk1994]

I don't doubt that Holmgren knew Favre, but since Holmgren himself had been hired less than a month before the Favre trade, was likely busy hiring a staff and moving at the time, and wasn't the GM or even a trusted confidant of the GM at the time (just the unproven, newly hired coach), I doubt Holmgren had much to do with the trade for Favre.

Besides, Wolf had wanted to draft Favre the year before anyway.

Holmgren may have had nothing to do with it, but he sure as hell was aware it was going to go down. And he definitely wasn't going "A first rounder for who" as per your fantasy bet.

My fantasy bet? What are you talking about? Must have me confused with someone else. I offered no bets about anything.

Sorry, thought I was still talking to sheepshead.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't imagine a game with more drama than Favre vrs. Pennington with the playoffs on the line. The whole country will be watching this game. I think Favre's season will be remembered largely by this performance.

I heard an analysis of the game on ESPN radio. The Jets have far more talent all the way around, but the Fins are clicking, Pennington is playing mistake-free football.

I won't be surprised at anything, the Jets may rise up and blow them out. Or Miami could win a close game.

[Partial]

SI is talking about how the poor the Jets play has been lately and largely attributed it to Kris Jenkins completely running out of steam. What was a force early in the season has been more of a beached whale as of late.