OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Honestly who gives a shit?
I understand that is going to be a yearly debate for the next 50 years of Packer football, but the bottom line, is Favre no longer plays for the Packers, he is a Viking.

If you are a Packer fan you root for the Packers, Favre said it himself. Favre will always be remembered for his 16 years in Green Bay and one year in Minnesota shouldn't change the impact that he made on the Green Bay Packers.

Go a head and be bitter all you want. I don't think he cares. I will tell you this either Favre is a really good actor, or the impact of not playing in the Green and Gold got to him when he was tending to Greg Jennings on the sideline. I know Scott Campbell will take his shot at this, but regardless of the critizism of Favre as a bad teammate that the media ran with the last year or so, he did and still cares about his former teammates in Green Bay.

Brett said it. Are you gonna root for the packers or are you rooting Bert?

Lets see...

I'm going to cheer for BRETT

And this weekend I got my tickets for the Packer/Bear game at Soldier Field for Dec. 13th

You decide Einstein.

The question was were you rooting for the pack or for Bert. Simple question. Stop evading it.

Did you root for the pack or for Bert in the game.

C'mon, you can say it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Warren Sapp says that he came into the NFL the season after favre won his 1st MVP and that THIS favre is better than THAT favre because of maturity/decision-making, accuaracy, and focus

Alot can be said for wisdom. And life issues (father's death, deanna illness, her bro's deathy, etc...) can help put one's craft in perspective

Like Fatboy MM said, favre was always a gifted athlete with great intangibles. Add that to experience and knowledge, plus chip on shoulder....

He/we should actually THANK t.t. for disrespecting his legacy since icons often NEED a "target," espcially after accomplishing SO much ala jordan getn "mad" at irrelevant bulletin board material even after it was clear he was GOAT....

Like my barber says Favre sittn pretty; can play 3 more years and continually irk GB brass who hav to want him to jus go away - lol

I know like me, most of you all liked the minn star-tribune headline monday LORD OF LAMBEAU (his new title)
I like the 1 sign at the game this lady had: ONE YEAR IN PURPLE CANT ERASE 16 YEARS ON MEMORIES...bingo

Patsy mark murphy

You couldn't be more wrong.

exactly.

Unless you live in Minny, what fucking kind of packer fan would choose to read that paper.

[mraynrand]

Warren Sapp says that he came into the NFL the season after favre won his 1st MVP and that THIS favre is better than THAT favre because of maturity/decision-making, accuaracy, and focus

Alot can be said for wisdom. And life issues (father's death, deanna illness, her bro's deathy, etc...) can help put one's craft in perspective

Like Fatboy MM said, favre was always a gifted athlete with great intangibles. Add that to experience and knowledge, plus chip on shoulder....

He/we should actually THANK t.t. for disrespecting his legacy since icons often NEED a "target," espcially after accomplishing SO much ala jordan getn "mad" at irrelevant bulletin board material even after it was clear he was GOAT....

Like my barber says Favre sittn pretty; can play 3 more years and continually irk GB brass who hav to want him to jus go away - lol

I know like me, most of you all liked the minn star-tribune headline monday LORD OF LAMBEAU (his new title)
I like the 1 sign at the game this lady had: ONE YEAR IN PURPLE CANT ERASE 16 YEARS ON MEMORIES...bingo

Patsy mark murphy

You couldn't be more wrong.

exactly.

Unless you live in Minny, what fucking kind of packer fan would choose to read that paper.

I just wish he had been Lord of Lambeau when it meant going to the Superbowl instead of 'irking' Packer brass. Brrr...I'm COLD!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Warren Sapp says that he came into the NFL the season after favre won his 1st MVP and that THIS favre is better than THAT favre because of maturity/decision-making, accuaracy, and focus

Alot can be said for wisdom. And life issues (father's death, deanna illness, her bro's deathy, etc...) can help put one's craft in perspective

Like Fatboy MM said, favre was always a gifted athlete with great intangibles. Add that to experience and knowledge, plus chip on shoulder....

He/we should actually THANK t.t. for disrespecting his legacy since icons often NEED a "target," espcially after accomplishing SO much ala jordan getn "mad" at irrelevant bulletin board material even after it was clear he was GOAT....

Like my barber says Favre sittn pretty; can play 3 more years and continually irk GB brass who hav to want him to jus go away - lol

I know like me, most of you all liked the minn star-tribune headline monday LORD OF LAMBEAU (his new title)
I like the 1 sign at the game this lady had: ONE YEAR IN PURPLE CANT ERASE 16 YEARS ON MEMORIES...bingo

Patsy mark murphy

You couldn't be more wrong.

exactly.

Unless you live in Minny, what fucking kind of packer fan would choose to read that paper.

I just wish he had been Lord of Lambeau when it meant going to the Superbowl instead of 'irking' Packer brass. Brrr...I'm COLD!

When Ty and Rand agree on something, you can pretty much put the issue to bed.

[sharpe1027]

I'll post this question yet again - Why did he retire in the first place? Was he that unhappy with the management style of TT and the coaching of MM? If he says he wanted TT to get veterans so the team would be a winner then he's a goofball. Why would a guy who just played in the NFC Championship game a couple of weeks earlier QUIT on that team? I'm sure MM asked BF to make a decision before the draft and this isn't an unreasonable request. Did BF feel he was being pushed to make a decision? Nonsense. One would think if he wanted to win in Green Bay there wouldn't be any question that he'd be back. This is why I believe he has wanted out of Green Bay ever since TT and MM came on the scene. I believe had he not retired and came back in 2008 he would've been our starting QB and none of this shit would've happened.

Favre: I was not pushed into retiring. This decision is entirely my own.

time passes...

Favre: I felt forced into retiring.

time passes...

Favre: They didn't try hard enough to get me back.

Not to mention:

Favre: They tricked me into coming back by promising to resign either Wahle or Rivera. (Facts show that he didn't announce his decision until after both of them were signed elsewhere).

My take:
For whatever reason, Favre didn't "like" TT and MM, so he wanted out of GB. He couldn't own up to it, so he plays games to try to force the Packers to get rid of him so he doesn't look like the bad guy.

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

[mraynrand]

Warren Sapp says that he came into the NFL the season after favre won his 1st MVP and that THIS favre is better than THAT favre because of maturity/decision-making, accuaracy, and focus

Alot can be said for wisdom. And life issues (father's death, deanna illness, her bro's deathy, etc...) can help put one's craft in perspective

Like Fatboy MM said, favre was always a gifted athlete with great intangibles. Add that to experience and knowledge, plus chip on shoulder....

He/we should actually THANK t.t. for disrespecting his legacy since icons often NEED a "target," espcially after accomplishing SO much ala jordan getn "mad" at irrelevant bulletin board material even after it was clear he was GOAT....

Like my barber says Favre sittn pretty; can play 3 more years and continually irk GB brass who hav to want him to jus go away - lol

I know like me, most of you all liked the minn star-tribune headline monday LORD OF LAMBEAU (his new title)
I like the 1 sign at the game this lady had: ONE YEAR IN PURPLE CANT ERASE 16 YEARS ON MEMORIES...bingo

Patsy mark murphy

You couldn't be more wrong.

exactly.

Unless you live in Minny, what fucking kind of packer fan would choose to read that paper.

I just wish he had been Lord of Lambeau when it meant going to the Superbowl instead of 'irking' Packer brass. Brrr...I'm COLD!

When Ty and Rand agree on something, you can pretty much put the issue to bed.

How about this: Bob Harlan: "Brett, you win this NFCC game and beat Brady in the Superbowl and we fire Ted and Mike and you get final up or down vote on the new GM." I bet he wins that fucking game.

[Deputy Nutz]

I'll post this question yet again - Why did he retire in the first place? Was he that unhappy with the management style of TT and the coaching of MM? If he says he wanted TT to get veterans so the team would be a winner then he's a goofball. Why would a guy who just played in the NFC Championship game a couple of weeks earlier QUIT on that team? I'm sure MM asked BF to make a decision before the draft and this isn't an unreasonable request. Did BF feel he was being pushed to make a decision? Nonsense. One would think if he wanted to win in Green Bay there wouldn't be any question that he'd be back. This is why I believe he has wanted out of Green Bay ever since TT and MM came on the scene. I believe had he not retired and came back in 2008 he would've been our starting QB and none of this shit would've happened.

Favre: I was not pushed into retiring. This decision is entirely my own.

time passes...

Favre: I felt forced into retiring.

time passes...

Favre: They didn't try hard enough to get me back.

Not to mention:

Favre: They tricked me into coming back by promising to resign either Wahle or Rivera. (Facts show that he didn't announce his decision until after both of them were signed elsewhere).

My take:
For whatever reason, Favre didn't "like" TT and MM, so he wanted out of GB. He couldn't own up to it, so he plays games to try to force the Packers to get rid of him so he doesn't look like the bad guy.

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

Some people say some real goofball shit, but this takes the cake.

[sharpe1027]

I'll post this question yet again - Why did he retire in the first place? Was he that unhappy with the management style of TT and the coaching of MM? If he says he wanted TT to get veterans so the team would be a winner then he's a goofball. Why would a guy who just played in the NFC Championship game a couple of weeks earlier QUIT on that team? I'm sure MM asked BF to make a decision before the draft and this isn't an unreasonable request. Did BF feel he was being pushed to make a decision? Nonsense. One would think if he wanted to win in Green Bay there wouldn't be any question that he'd be back. This is why I believe he has wanted out of Green Bay ever since TT and MM came on the scene. I believe had he not retired and came back in 2008 he would've been our starting QB and none of this shit would've happened.

Favre: I was not pushed into retiring. This decision is entirely my own.

time passes...

Favre: I felt forced into retiring.

time passes...

Favre: They didn't try hard enough to get me back.

Not to mention:

Favre: They tricked me into coming back by promising to resign either Wahle or Rivera. (Facts show that he didn't announce his decision until after both of them were signed elsewhere).

My take:
For whatever reason, Favre didn't "like" TT and MM, so he wanted out of GB. He couldn't own up to it, so he plays games to try to force the Packers to get rid of him so he doesn't look like the bad guy.

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

Some people say some real goofball shit, but this takes the cake.

Hey, I could be wrong. I posted it to get different perspectives. So far I've gotten nothing intelligent.

[packinpatland]

I'll post this question yet again - Why did he retire in the first place? Was he that unhappy with the management style of TT and the coaching of MM? If he says he wanted TT to get veterans so the team would be a winner then he's a goofball. Why would a guy who just played in the NFC Championship game a couple of weeks earlier QUIT on that team? I'm sure MM asked BF to make a decision before the draft and this isn't an unreasonable request. Did BF feel he was being pushed to make a decision? Nonsense. One would think if he wanted to win in Green Bay there wouldn't be any question that he'd be back. This is why I believe he has wanted out of Green Bay ever since TT and MM came on the scene. I believe had he not retired and came back in 2008 he would've been our starting QB and none of this shit would've happened.

Favre: I was not pushed into retiring. This decision is entirely my own.

time passes...

Favre: I felt forced into retiring.

time passes...

Favre: They didn't try hard enough to get me back.

Not to mention:

Favre: They tricked me into coming back by promising to resign either Wahle or Rivera. (Facts show that he didn't announce his decision until after both of them were signed elsewhere).

My take:
For whatever reason, Favre didn't "like" TT and MM, so he wanted out of GB. He couldn't own up to it, so he plays games to try to force the Packers to get rid of him so he doesn't look like the bad guy.

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

Yeah, that shoulder thing was all fake.

[sharpe1027]

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

Yeah, that shoulder thing was all fake.

Nah, but it sure didn't stop him from suiting up with the Vikings.

Why did he ask to be released outright instead of just retiring? It is almost as if he was expecting to come back and play for another team...

[g4orce]

I'll post this question yet again - Why did he retire in the first place? Was he that unhappy with the management style of TT and the coaching of MM?

Yes. He hated Ted Thompson's style with a passion and never felt welcomed by him from the get go.

If he says he wanted TT to get veterans so the team would be a winner then he's a goofball. Why would a guy who just played in the NFC Championship game a couple of weeks earlier QUIT on that team? I'm sure MM asked BF to make a decision before the draft and this isn't an unreasonable request. Did BF feel he was being pushed to make a decision? Nonsense. One would think if he wanted to win in Green Bay there wouldn't be any question that he'd be back.

Brett Favre wanted veterans cuz he knew this was what the youngest team in the league was missing. He knew if they added a few missing pieces that this team was on the rise but it goes back to TT's style of building a team and Brett Favre was done doing it that way.

This is why I believe he has wanted out of Green Bay ever since TT and MM came on the scene. I believe had he not retired and came back in 2008 he would've been our starting QB and none of this shit would've happened.

Ur ending is what u feel or believe, I get that, but it really all stems from him not wanting to deal with an organization that wasnt trying to win now.. see 2006,2008, and 2009.

[packerbacker1234]

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

Yeah, that shoulder thing was all fake.

Nah, but it sure didn't stop him from suiting up with the Vikings.

Why did he ask to be released outright instead of just retiring? It is almost as if he was expecting to come back and play for another team...

1. He didn't want to play for the jets to begin with, so if he could get out of it then sweet. The jets did not have to outright release him, they did so because they too were done with brett. Mangini was gone, new coaching staff, time for a new era.

2. He said pretty much from the get go that he wasn't sure, so the release gave him the opportunity to go where he wants to go if he does want to play. The "second retirement" was pretty much a joke. Everyone knew it, no real presser about it. He was hurt, didn't know if he could recover well enough to play again, asked for release and got it. He asked the packers for the same thing and got traded instead.

[Freak Out]

It's to bad TT didn't just man up and trade him to the Vikes in the first place....Chilly would have given a couple of 1st round picks for him.

[Bossman641]

IMO Favre had every intention of playing for the Vikings from the end of the Jets season on. Why else would he have booked a block of hotel rooms for the weekend of the Packer-Viking game while STILL ON THE JETS TEAM?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Further evidence: He did the same thing to the Jets.

Yeah, that shoulder thing was all fake.

Nah, but it sure didn't stop him from suiting up with the Vikings.

Why did he ask to be released outright instead of just retiring? It is almost as if he was expecting to come back and play for another team...

1. He didn't want to play for the jets to begin with, so if he could get out of it then sweet. The jets did not have to outright release him, they did so because they too were done with brett. Mangini was gone, new coaching staff, time for a new era.

2. He said pretty much from the get go that he wasn't sure, so the release gave him the opportunity to go where he wants to go if he does want to play. The "second retirement" was pretty much a joke. Everyone knew it, no real presser about it. He was hurt, didn't know if he could recover well enough to play again, asked for release and got it. He asked the packers for the same thing and got traded instead.

Nice spin job.

Especially love the part about "no real presser" about the "second retirement."

P.S. Don't you love the favre guys. Typing which "retirement" it was. Can't believe they can do that with a straight face.

Bert and Jay Z battling it out for most career retirements.