OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[MOBB DEEP]

It was probably a PACKER record. I care.

So u DONT like big black studs?! prefer skinny stat geeks?

'scuse me?

Being silly (and obviously failed terribly trying to be funny )...u were wondering about some stat and i felt it was irrelevent considering favre has done SO much that tracking his every accomplishment is fruitless unless one's stat-geeky

but my boy back in Milwaukee was happy that he didnt break THAT record since it was when he was a packer

You feel the same?

[packerbacker1234]

Favre has to be the front runner ahead of Peyton. Peyton has more yards, but the TD numbers are neck and neck, and favre has the interception edge by far (amazing to think that #4 has, I believe, the best TD to Int ratio in the league).

Co-Mvp a case can be made, and if the colts don't slip up Favre is pretty much hoping for a Co-MVP, but if I had to put one or the other on the field right not to win a game this year, I would go Favre OVER Manning. While both have played VERY well this year (Played like HOF MVP players that they are) I feel Favre has overall played better, and proven in the clutch he still has it.

[Partial]

Honestly, you don't know nearly as much about the Eagles as you think you do if you don't know about Reid's horrible game management skills.

Look at the SB alone. They were down 2 scores or something and didn't even try hurry-up.

You're entitled to your opinion, I don't care. Pretty tough to argue that Reid isn't a premiere coach when looking at his team's history. Off the top of my head the only person with more recent post season success is the man in NE...

[packerbacker1234]

Honestly, you don't know nearly as much about the Eagles as you think you do if you don't know about Reid's horrible game management skills.

Look at the SB alone. They were down 2 scores or something and didn't even try hurry-up.

You're entitled to your opinion, I don't care. Pretty tough to argue that Reid isn't a premiere coach when looking at his team's history. Off the top of my head the only person with more recent post season success is the man in NE...

Post season success, to me, is getting in the super bowl. Win or Lose, thats a success. What I see is one super bowl appearance and a bunch of failed post seasons.

[woodbuck27]

Another outstanding game for Favre and the Vikings are looking to be solidifying. Favre was 32 for 48 and an NFL week 12 best (so far) 392 yards and 3 TD pass's. His arm is strong and he's right on the money with his pass's. His field of vision looks better this season.

Is he zeroing in on the MVP award? He's very close to that status and right with Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. IMO he's playing better than he ever has. His QBR was 112.5 today in that whitewash win (36-10) over the Bears.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d814960c6/WK-12-Brett-Favre-highlights

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009112904/2009/REG12/bears@vikings

Game ball

** Vikings QB Brett Favre played in his 282nd consecutive regular-season game, tying Jim Marshall's NFL record for most consecutive games played by a position player.

** Favre finished with 392 yards and three touchdowns on 32-of-48 passing and set a franchise record by hitting five different receivers at least five times each. After Peterson's TD run, Favre took a seat on the bench, finishing 10 yards shy of his career-high for passing in a single game.

[MOBB DEEP]

set a franchise record by hitting five different receivers at least five times each.

WOW....who does that?

Surprised it's not an NFL record

[MOBB DEEP]

(amazing to think that #4 has, I believe, the best TD to Int ratio in the league).

Currently he has the BEST in league history for a season BY FAR

[MOBB DEEP]

I, the Lord, have spoken.,...

Better numbers in the 1st half than Peyton had all game!

4 MVPs?

Co-MVPS imo. They'll split it and each have 4 after the year.

Scary to think we gave away an MVP for a 3rd round pcik I understand the situation, but still, eye opening nonetheless.

He hasn't received the MVP yet.

Done Deal

[MichiganPackerFan]

Best QB in the NFC.

I like McNabb, but I think both Brees and Rodgers will have something to say about that. Sadly, probably Favre too.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Is there justice in football?

Favre is FINALLY playing exactly like we had hoped he would all these years. Only it's with the Vikings.

That stings.

It really does. It seems like he actually cares now, unlike in the latter years where he'd rely on miracles to win. Actually sitting down to study a playbook? WTF? I feel like in the last few season in GB, he really just mailed it in. And THAT'S the part that stings: for as much devotion as the GB fans put into him, it doesn't appear he put that back into the team in for the last few years. If anything, his elevated play in MIN only confirms that.

[pbmax]

Honestly, you don't know nearly as much about the Eagles as you think you do if you don't know about Reid's horrible game management skills.

Look at the SB alone. They were down 2 scores or something and didn't even try hurry-up.

You're entitled to your opinion, I don't care. Pretty tough to argue that Reid isn't a premiere coach when looking at his team's history. Off the top of my head the only person with more recent post season success is the man in NE...

Andy Reid is 10 and 7 in the playoffs. You are going to make me look this up aren't you?

[PlantPage55]

Is there justice in football?

Favre is FINALLY playing exactly like we had hoped he would all these years. Only it's with the Vikings.

That stings.

It really does. It seems like he actually cares now, unlike in the latter years where he'd rely on miracles to win. Actually sitting down to study a playbook? WTF? I feel like in the last few season in GB, he really just mailed it in. And THAT'S the part that stings: for as much devotion as the GB fans put into him, it doesn't appear he put that back into the team in for the last few years. If anything, his elevated play in MIN only confirms that.

I'll feel this way if he plays lights out in the playoffs. I will be SO mad if he doesn't have a multiple INT game, because he RARELY gave us anything but that in the playoffs after the Super Bowl.

[pbmax]

Bill Belichick.......15....4....0.789
Mike Tomlin........3.....1....0.75
Ken Whisenhunt..3.....1....0.75
Joe Gibbs...........17....7....0.708
John Harbaugh....2.....1....0.667
John Fox.............5.....3....0.625
Brian Billick .......5......3....0.625
Mike Shanahan....8.....5....0.615
Andy Reid..........10....7....0.588
Bill Parcells.........11...8.... 0.579
Norv Turner........4......3....0.571
Bill Cowher.........12....9....0.571
Jon Gruden.........5......4....0.556
Mike Holmgren....13....11...0.542
Tom Coughlin.....8......7.....0.533

[mraynrand]

Bill Belichick.......15....4....0.789
Mike Tomlin........3.....1....0.75
Ken Whisenhunt..3.....1....0.75
Joe Gibbs...........17....7....0.708
John Harbaugh....2.....1....0.667
John Fox.............5.....3....0.625
Brian Billick .......5......3....0.625
Mike Shanahan....8.....5....0.615
Andy Reid..........10....7....0.588
Bill Parcells.........11...8.... 0.579
Norv Turner........4......3....0.571
Bill Cowher.........12....9....0.571
Jon Gruden.........5......4....0.556
Mike Holmgren....13....11...0.542
Tom Coughlin.....8......7.....0.533

What a list. When you note that every loss in the loss column is a season-ending loss, the '11' that Holmgren endured is startling. It tells you the guy made it to a lot of post-seasons in 17 years and that 11/12 met with disappointing finishes.