OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[gbgary]

the risk taking never bothered me...because it succeeded more than it failed. holding the team ransom every off-season got tiresome but i was perfectly happy with him until be came a viking.

But it hasn't succeeded in the playoffs. Ultimately, I think that is what convinced TT and MM that it was OK to try a new direction, even if Favre still had some years left in him.

i hear ya!

Risk taking is fine, I don't think Brint succeeded more times than failing, but you don't need to in order to have success. The problem (from a vikes POV, to me it was a perfect play) with yesterdays pick was the wisdom of even taking the risk. There were just a few seconds left, you were already in field goal range. His choices were the following:

1. Make a stupid throw. 2 of the rules of QB play is never throw late to the middle of the field and never throw across your body into traffic (the angles are too easy for DBs)

2. Throw the ball away, try another play, in that doesn't work then go for the FG.

Brint went for #1.

come on now. over the years i'll bet you said "how'd he do that", or "that was amazing" many, many, more than you said "that was too risky a throw." in his mind i don't think he thought that throw was risky. he saw an open man and made a throw. it was more bad decision than risk.

[mraynrand]

2003: 4th and 26. Favre's silly INT in OT in a game that the Packers had dominated certainly falls within the tendency you're describing.

Yes, it certainly falls within the tendency described.

[LEWCWA]

NSFW (contains loud swearing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUAgITZfq0

It's funny since we've all been there, probably wearing different colors.

been there, done that :P

[pbmax]

2004: Wildcard loss to Minnesota at Lambeau. I admit to having repressed almost all memories of this game and can't recall what role Favre played in this loss. My gut tells me that GB simply got outplayed.

He was far from alone, but like St. Louis, he wasn't helping:

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My argument about playoff games like St. Louis, Minnesota and the Falcons (I will never understand the Philly game - in no way shape or form did Philly matchup in that game save one goal line stand and one pass) is that while the opposition might have several advantages and perhaps momentum on its side, that is the last time you want your leader playing like someone has cut his head off. Or in a frenzied panic. Stay the course, keep calm, make small plays, put points on the board. The competition committee has not created a 9 point line for touchdowns from 70 yards and out. Give the rest of your team a chance to catch its breath and make a play. Don't jump on top when they are down.

[Patler]

2004: Wildcard loss to Minnesota at Lambeau. I admit to having repressed almost all memories of this game and can't recall what role Favre played in this loss. My gut tells me that GB simply got outplayed.

He was far from alone, but like St. Louis, he wasn't helping:

22-33-216-1-4

My argument about playoff games like St. Louis, Minnesota and the Falcons (I will never understand the Philly game - in no way shape or form did Philly matchup in that game save one goal line stand and one pass) is that while the opposition might have several advantages and perhaps momentum on its side, that is the last time you want your leader playing like someone has cut his head off. Or in a frenzied panic. Stay the course, keep calm, make small plays, put points on the board. The competition committee has not created a 9 point line for touchdowns from 70 yards and out. Give the rest of your team a chance to catch its breath and make a play. Don't jump on top when they are down.

Yup, keeping your head when all those around you are losing theirs. The QB is in a unique position sometimes to stop the snowballing effect and keep a game from getting out of hand. Early in the game, it doesn't necessarily even require scoring. Getting a few first downs, gaining some confidence, etc.

[SkinBasket]

If we've learned anything from these past few years, it looks like Favre is definitely coming back next season per his own comments:

Brett Favre's return for another season is "highly unlikely, but it has been an awesome year," the Minnesota Vikings quarterback told ESPN's Ed Werder after the Vikings' loss to the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday.

Favre, who returned to the NFL from retirement with the goal of leading the Vikings to a championship, fell just short when his pass with seconds left in regulation was intercepted. The Saints won in overtime to advance to the franchise's first-ever Super Bowl.

Favre also told Werder before the game that not one Vikings player had inquired about his future because they were so focused on the game.

Favre wasn't quite ready to make a decision on his future immediately following the loss, but he said he wouldn't take long to make his plans known this time.

"Just wondering if I can hold up, especially after a day like today," Favre said after throwing for 310 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. "Physically and mentally. That was pretty draining. I am going to go home, a couple of days and just talk it over with the family."

After Sunday's game, Favre staggered to the podium, an abrasion between his eyes, welts on his forehead and tears in his eyes from the beating he took at the hands of the Saints and the realization that his quest to get back to Super Bowl fell just short again.

For a quarterback who derived so much joy during an improbably successful season for the Vikings, Favre sure didn't look or sound like a player who had much left after a heartbreaking 31-28 overtime loss to the Saints.

Favre has one year left on the two-year contract he signed with Minnesota in August, but Vikings coach Brad Childress isn't going to rush him into making a decision on returning for a 20th NFL season.

"I told him go home and lick your wounds and I'll do the same and we'll catch up down the road," Childress said. "Nobody wants to be rash about any decision-making, I'm sure, right now."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4857006

[packerbacker1234]

It is the most brutal beating I think I have seen his body take in a single game. Did anyone else see that press conference? How he was able to stay in the game and play is beyond me. Reports show that he was even more beat up than he appeared too.

Time will tell. I am sure he thinks the vikings are good enough and will be better next season to take a shot, but the game he just had... how many more of these physical beat downs can his body handle? I think thats just a question he has to answer himself. Again, we never know for sure until the first game next year for hte vikes, but we shall see if he has one more season left in him. He has to know he's on borrowed time.

He can still play, and play at a high level. He no longer has tp prove that to anyone. The only thing left to prove is he can get over the NFC championship hump to get to another Super Bowl. I just don't know if that is going to be enough to make him come back.

But hey... it's brett. Who knows?

[Scott Campbell]

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[The Shadow]

Favre showed us yesterday that this is true for him. While he seemed to change this year, controlling himself to a degree Packer fans have never seen, when crunch time came, he reacted as Packer fans have seen for years, The throw back into the middle of the field, late in the play, was probably something he got away with often in college, but pro coaches harp and harp on it. Favre was conditioned to do it by who he is, a risk taker. At the time he threw it he probably saw "great play!" Unfortunately, high risk takers don't see the downside until its too late. Too often it gets you in trouble in the NFL.

When crunch time came, Favre became the Favre he always was.

That's exactly what drove me nuts watching him all these years. He never learned, never became that ultimate qb like Starr, Montana.
When it's all said and done, it's those rings that matter most.
Ask Marino.

BINGO!

[Joemailman]

"Highly unlikely" he'll return.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Trenches/entry/view/53249/favre-says-its-unlikely-hell-play-football-again

[Fosco33]

"Highly unlikely" he'll return.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The...football-again

Highly unlikely that he'll be believed until he goes an entire season away from the game... and even then I wouldn't rule him out.

[Joemailman]

What? You think he'll change his mind once he makes a decision?

[Bossman641]

If we've learned anything from these past few years, it looks like Favre is definitely coming back next season per his own comments:

"I told him go home and lick your wounds and I'll do the same and I'll provide chauffeuring services down the road in August," Childress said. "Nobody wants to be rash about any decision-making, I'm sure, right now."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=4857006

[Fosco33]

What? You think he'll change his mind once he makes a decision?

The Sears commercial is my main source :P

[green_bowl_packer]

Brett currently is 3 touchdown passes away from 500. Does he go for it?